Outside of the OL being a swinging door again, the schedule is MUCH softer. So yes, the offense should be better, avg 25pts a game better, not sure.
Update: Noah Shannon CLEARED TO PRACTICE. 26 UI student-athletes investigated for online gambling, incl in FB, Men’s BB, Baseball, T&F & Wrestling
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Correct. The players sign up for these rules when they sign their LOI. This is on them, and them only.....
You bet. Everything is just hunky dorey with M basketball. So Howard lets his kid jack up shots for his NIT team, So his kid can get drafted, while you lose one of the best post players in the country to transfer because they don't use him worth a shit all year. Yep were all jealous of Michigan basketball and all your success under Howard. I respected Beilin who was a solid coach and a standup guy. Howards a clown who is a bigger red ass then fran, and thats saying a lot. He should have been fired after his 2nd attempt in the last couple of years to attack another coach on the sideline, threatening to kill people and throwing punches. A multi millionare, falling back on his, "I'm from the hood, and you don't disrespect me " crap. He's as poor an example for young people as there is in the game.
I watched that 3 times and still can't fathom what the WR was thinking and how pissed the announcer must have been that he wasted his "IT'S ROOM SERVICE!!!" call on that turd.
You really didn’t. Honestly, you’re the one who really kind of started the track getting derailed by saying this is the very worst nepotism. Now you did realize how bad that comment was after Lickliter pointed out, but you’re somehow trying to justify it with one year vs year seven, 🤷♂️.
Also, note that the reason it didn’t continue past one season was no choice of the Lickliters. That choice was made for them when Todd was terminated. Not just for playing John, but a number reasons, which included reasons for having to play John.
As for John Lickliter being unfairly picked on. I believe anyone in their right mind knows that Todd Lickliter is 100% to blame for playing John and a lot different than the Brian/Kirk Ferentz situation. But that doesn’t change the opinion that nepotism was worse, even if it was only a season, under Lickliter.
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I stand by the statement that this Brian Ferentz nepotism is worse than John Lickliter. The latter went on for what, less than a full season? The former continues to drag down iowa football.
Funny how that second paragraph works right? When someone is really bad at their job they don’t get a choice about continuing. That obviously doesn’t apply to certain positions in Iowa football. 🤷♂️
I can respect your opinion, but disagree completely. You won’t see me sticking up for Brian, but the Lickliter playing John in B1G competition was a hell of a lot worse.
Yea. That’s definitely fair to feel that way. I honestly don’t remember (maybe because I don’t want to or I’ve blocked it out) but were there injuries that led to John playing that year or was it something else?
By year three of Todd’s time at Iowa most players saw the writing on the wall and transferred. Jeff Peterson, Aaron Fuller, Tony Freeman (who would have grad by year three), Jake Kelly, David Palmer all left. Iowa lost its leading scorer from the previous year each year under Todd and not due to graduation. Anthony Tucker had a plethora of other issues and left the team as well.
By year three of Todd Iowa had 11 players on the roster which consisted of nine FR and SO’s. Only JR Jarryd Cole and SR Devin Bawinkel remained. I would guess John played out of attrition with the roster, more or less.
Yea. That feels like a long time ago and then it feels like it wasn’t that long ago at the same time.
I don’t recall too many injuries, but Anthony Tucker was suspended from play more than once. In an OT game with Michigan, Gatens played 45 minutes, Cully Payne and Eric May 43, and Aaron Fuller 42. That is crazy.
Cougill, maybe had injuries? Eric May didn’t develop his injury prone back until after Lick was gone. May, Payne, Cole, and Gatens played in every game that season. Fuller missed two.
Cougill, maybe had injuries? Eric May didn’t develop his injury prone back until after Lick was gone. May, Payne, Cole, and Gatens played in every game that season. Fuller missed two.
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Acie was suspended five games (as a Freshman?) after being arrested on two different occasions. Once for minor in poss of alcohol and the other for property damage. Nothing showing the suspension was for gambling though.
part of it was because of how many players were run off, as to why he got fired was because Gatens and May both told Barta either Lick goes or they go. well you know how that turned out. May and Gatens were still here and Lick was fired.
that won't happen with Fran has the full support of the team. and going by ESPN and Rivals all 4 commits are 4*'s that's the best recruiting class that Fran has brought in and the players out of the portal are both up grades over what Fran has gotten out of the transfers
I did some follow-up, and it didn't look like any injuries to the guards. There were only 10 scholarship players and with Tucker suspended, only Payne was left to play point. Gatens averaged 36.7 minutes per game and Payne 33.4, both playing in all 32 games.
On top of that for the third year in a row the previous years top scorer, (Matt Gatens this time) was hitting the door, if Lick didn't leave before him, at least thats the story that Mike Gatens met with Barta....
I don't believe he did leave early....
He didn't. He stayed all four years, and was drafted by the Celtics.
If a Nebber fan’s “weird” is their bread than “stupid” is definitely their butter.
And you know they are gonna have an insane level of fantasy heading into this fall about their new Savior. This ONE is the ONE. They are back like the 1990s pre-internet / pre-cell phone days baby.
Thanks for those who corrected my post about Acie Earl. Apparently, my long term memory is no better than my short term memory. The player I was referring to was actually Connie Hawkins.
https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com...e-basketball-career-that-could-have-been-bhgp
https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com...e-basketball-career-that-could-have-been-bhgp
You are welcome to your opinion on Juwan as a coach. It's fair as he has so far had mixed results. You can say he unerachieved this year and that would be VERY true. He was also the only B10 coach to make it to the Sweet 16 last year and has had a #1 seed team in his short HC career.
I will also agree with you on Beilein...way better coach and talent evaluator until proven otherwise...
But getting back to the point...
Juwan recruiting Jett was not nepotism...it was circumstance...he had a kid who was one of the top recruits in the country...he literally could have gone to any program in the country...period...end of story
There was an article today that stated the ncaa treats an athlete that shaves points the same as an athlete that bets on any game involving their institution. This could get real ugly. It mentioned iowa athletes might have bet on the iowa South Carolina final four game. The ncaa states that athlete would be banned from ever participating again. This could be real bad.
Lol no they don't, especially considering it's not the sport they competed in. Whoever wrote that article has no clue what they're talking about.
Link to that story?
What I have seen is that betting on a sport other than the one you play in (at any level- amateur, college, pro) is a one year ban but it can be appealed. And if you bet on your own sport, you are done.
NOTE: You can bet on boxing and MMA because the NCAA does not sponsor those sports.
Iowa, ISU gambling investigation: Amounts wagered key in possible athlete reinstatement
Betting totals less than $500 could be helpful for reinstatement, unless the student-athlete wagered on his own school in any sport.
www.desmoinesregister.com
Chad Leistikow knows what he’s talking about.
I think the most they are looking at is a one year ban
The Virginia Tech player was suspended for betting on the NBA, NCAA does not sponsor the NBA
A student athlete cannot bet on any sport (amateur, college and pro) where the NCAA sponsors a championship.
So, in your example, the NCAA sponsors basketball championships at several levels so no student athlete (football player, wrestler, etc) can bet on an amatuer, college, or pro (NBA, etc) basketball game. If they do, they are subject to a one year suspension
The irony....
In Jan, 2023, the Elite Casino Resorts announced a $500,000 commitment to the Iowa SWARM collective in exchange for being the exclusive casino gaming partner.
Several other colleges have signed sponsorship deals with sportsbooks in recent years, worth millions, but those are unwinding.
* PointsBet’s deals with Maryland and Colorado were cut short.
* Michigan State and LSU are getting out of deals with Caesars.
Excerpt from an Athletic article regarding Michigan State:
Mo Hyder, Regional Vice President & General Manager of Rhythm City Casino Resort; Lisa Bluder, Head Coach of the Iowa Hawkeye’s Women’s Basketball Program; Damon John, General Manager Riverside Casino & Golf Resort; and Fran McCaffery, Head Coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes Men’s Basketball Program
The full story:
theathletic.com
In Jan, 2023, the Elite Casino Resorts announced a $500,000 commitment to the Iowa SWARM collective in exchange for being the exclusive casino gaming partner.
Several other colleges have signed sponsorship deals with sportsbooks in recent years, worth millions, but those are unwinding.
* PointsBet’s deals with Maryland and Colorado were cut short.
* Michigan State and LSU are getting out of deals with Caesars.
Excerpt from an Athletic article regarding Michigan State:
Mo Hyder, Regional Vice President & General Manager of Rhythm City Casino Resort; Lisa Bluder, Head Coach of the Iowa Hawkeye’s Women’s Basketball Program; Damon John, General Manager Riverside Casino & Golf Resort; and Fran McCaffery, Head Coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes Men’s Basketball Program
The full story:
Alabama baseball spotlights college sports' ongoing gambling debate
Can college sports protect its personnel and keep control over the credibility of its product as legalized sports betting continues to grow?
theathletic.com
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Another question regarding the article in the previous post: Should college sports like football require public injury reports like the NFL because of gambling?
Matt Holt of monitoring service U.S. Integrity says they should. "Injury reports were created to disrupt and deter misuse of insider information."
Matt Holt of monitoring service U.S. Integrity says they should. "Injury reports were created to disrupt and deter misuse of insider information."
As far as their college athlete eligibility/suspensions I can only think the hammer will be dropped by the ncaa. Then you have the possible criminal charges. Maybe if iowa or iowa state knew about this and tried to self-impose sanctions and get out ahead of it, they would be able to control the repercussions. That’s not happening here.
I understand trying to maintain the public’s perception that collegiate athletic contests are on the up and up. So if athletes are point shaving, then that should be dealt with harshly. But most owi/dui first time offenders are suspended like one football game if they are at iowa right? What type of message is being sent if you can miss one game for something extremely dangerous to the public and oneself, versus possibly an entire season for betting on the Red Sox to beat the Dodgers??
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