Wadley A Better Leader Than Beathard Ever Was

[hif in fairfax]

CJB was a great leader after rumors of wanting to leave the team early on when he wasn't starting. Look at all the amazing bowl victories he lead us to when he got the job.

 

[HawkGem11]

This quote from him says it all:

“If I would have stayed in, that would have been not only selfish to the team but selfish to the other running backs that are healthy,” Wadley said.

Wadley pronounced himself at full health Tuesday. He said he could have finished Saturday’s game but wasn’t confident that his ankle would allow him to make all the cuts he usually does.

CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.

You are such a clueless clown it is not even funny.

 

[James Westfall]

OP, serious question...how many accounts did you use in this thread?

 

[katman15]

This quote from him says it all:

“If I would have stayed in, that would have been not only selfish to the team but selfish to the other running backs that are healthy,” Wadley said.

Wadley pronounced himself at full health Tuesday. He said he could have finished Saturday’s game but wasn’t confident that his ankle would allow him to make all the cuts he usually does.

CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.

CJ gave everything he had for the Hawks....Don't bash the kid,.Come on Man!

 

[speed4power]

Well, those of you who Law offended, what do you think of what Wadley (our new hero) said ?
I was thrilled with what Beathard did in 2015 and I went to Indianapolis and the Rose Bowl, but I don't think that he was entitled to play injured in last years bowl game when we had Stanley or Wiegers healthy on the sideline. I thought it was painful to watch C. J. play and that's not how I chose to remember him as a Hawkeye.
It's like now, do we know how injured Josey really is ? He doesn't look like he did in the first week. If he's not 100%, let's play Welch or someone who's healthy against ISU and No. Texas. I thought that's why teams have 85 scholarships, so players get ready to play.

Shhhhh.... you're making too much sense for most people on this board lol

 

[speed4power]

Two completely different situations. Obviously you don't understand the nature of the game of football. Situation A is a senior QB with a true freshman backup with a total of two live snaps facing a tough defense. At that point Stanley was limited in his understanding of the O and it was Beathard's last game. A QB has to know the playback and the hotreads and be able to read the defense as the play develops. Situation B is a senior RB who when he left was backed up by another senior RB. RB have to know the playbook but rely more in instinct and vision. When Butler went down BF/KF rolled the dice on freshman and they had success. If they would failed to move the chains you bet your ass Wadley would have seen at least one more series to ensure a W.

Neither Beathard or Stanley stood a chance against FL. But Beathard's knowledge of the playbook provided the best chance to win. If Stanley would have been ready KF might have played him.

Beathard could barely walk. It was a close game when he got injured. We had two solid backup options at QB.

 

[ih8iast8]

It was enlightening when I started ignoring iowafbbb4life dude. I can't imagine how glorious this website will be when I start ignoring IowaLaw.

 

[Gabe Sifuentes]

Beathard could barely walk. It was a close game when he got injured. We had two solid backup options at QB.

If he could "barely" walk the medical staff wouldn't have cleared him to play. His mobility was hampered. Unfortunately the pass protection was not very good. In all almost any game situation a pocket passer QB with full knowledge of the playbook provides a better chance to win than a mobile QB with a handful of plays. In CJs case protection broke down and the plays Davis called took to long to develop. CJ wanted to play, the medical staff cleaned him and his playing provided the best chance for success which is not a guarantee of success. Unfortunately things did not go well but it worked out for CJ.

 

[iowalaw]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. There's nothing wrong with any of that, but it's not exactly the squeaky clean image of Iowa. If he weren't a great talent who played on a team with a bunch of future NFL draft picks, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. He had a worse game than he did even against Michigan. Wadley, on the other hand, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader. That's not to say CJ is a horrible leader, but like the title of the thread states, Wadley deserves his due.

 

[L Lawliet]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. If he weren't a great talent who averaged 118 yards per game passing last year, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. Wadley, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader.

Okay. I used to believe you were just honestly stupid, and I kinda pitied you the way you pity the special ed kid who wants to help win a football game. But no one is this stupid. Shame on me for not labeling you a troll sooner. My bad.

 

[Gabe Sifuentes]

Your post is shameful and embarrassing to yourself especially involving CJs girlfriend and child. Are you going to attack Aaron White next and suggest he was a terrible leader for getting his girlfriend (now wife) pregnant while in school? Go back on hiatus troll.

 

[Muskie5]

Calling BS on this post. Wadley was one of the few upperclassman to come to the corner on kids day and sign autographs. It was almost all freshman, but here came Wadley even as the clock was ticking down for practice to start. My son got his football signed by him, and I even have pics to prove it, lol. Everyone loves pics on here.

You didn't read very well. I didn't say anything about 'kids day'. I said the spring game and they didn't do Kid's day during the Spring game this year. Kid's day was in August. Big difference.

 

[Curt Furence]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. If he weren't a great talent who averaged 118 yards per game passing last year, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. Wadley, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader.

1. How do you know there were no complaints from Wadley, just because he didn't do it to the media? When did CJ openly complain about not playing? His family was asked repeatedly about him playing, he was asked repeatedly, I don't remember him going out of his way to complain, other than his dad saying he hoped he wouldn't have to leave
2. This is just ridiculous. Marvin McNutt had what, 2 kids when he was unwed and a student at Iowa? Didn't see anyone taking shots at him. Bob Sanders and Abdul Hodge had long hair at Iowa, I cannot believe how bad of leaders they were.
3. Play on the field has nothing to do with leadership. You can be the best player on the field and an awful leader or you can be the best leader anyone has ever seen and be a backup.
4. It really doesn't matter what Akrum wanted. Kirk wouldn't let a player make that decision for him. Also, his decision to not play in an early season game against North Texas vs Beathard not wanting to come out of his last career game in a bowl are far from the same thing.

 

[Curt Furence]

Well, I'm going to put a different spin on this. I think it was Wadley's agent who wouldn't let him play after he 'tweeked' his ankle. At the spring game, the kids weren't supposed to be able to get autographs, but I had a large group of middle school football players who went down to the corner of the stands as the players were leaving and they were awesome about signing autographs and some of them (including Meerkat) did selfies with them....then at the end here came Wadley with his agent and his agent wouldn't let him go anywhere near the kids. I gave him an earful as he was leaving. I like Wadley, but NO he is not anywhere near the leader that so many of these other players are and have been. Not everyone is....

This is idiotic to even throw out there. First of all, college athletes cannot have an agent. Many likely have someone who advises them, though illegally. There is no way Ferentz and the Iowa staff would allow an "agent" to be on the field with a player

 

[bigfridaynite]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. If he weren't a great talent who averaged 118 yards per game passing last year, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. Wadley, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader.

How is your Son getting along with the Lions?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. If he weren't a great talent who averaged 118 yards per game passing last year, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. Wadley, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader.

Well at least you didn't put objective in the thread title.........

Also, I know you're trolling for reactions but it's still bad form (and please feel free to reply to this too) to involve someone's girlfriend/wife and kid(s), in what is basically a personal attack (and against forum rules I might add)........as a spin to push their "point" across, but also mostly to generate the most reactions.

Enjoy.

 

[Muskie5]

This is idiotic to even throw out there. First of all, college athletes cannot have an agent. Many likely have someone who advises them, though illegally. There is no way Ferentz and the Iowa staff would allow an "agent" to be on the field with a player

I was being a smartalec about the 'agent' part. I don't know who the guy in street clothes was that was walking with him. I'm surprised you're the first one to catch that. I like to see how well people actually read some posts. The rest of the story is accurate though.

 

[Gonzo Bloor]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. If he weren't a great talent who averaged 118 yards per game passing last year, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. Wadley, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader.

Perseverance? You must've missed those games in 2015 where CJB played hurt and still led the team in gutting out wins to get us to 12-0. Did you enjoy the win vs. Pitt? Yeah without his last scramble, that wouldn't have happened.

Long hair? Non-clean shaven? Tell that to Jesus. Your point there might be the dumbest piece of logic I've ever read.

Michigan game? CJB's QB draw on the last drive for the first down guaranteed UM wouldn't get the ball back and that we could run the clock out for the winning FG.

Outback Bowl? If you're really this cheesed off about that you should blame KF. He's the coach. It's his call who's in and who's out.

The fact that you're pitting two great Hawkeyes against each other like this is as moronic as it is pathetic.

 

[speed4power]

I can't believe the number of people in this thread defending CJ's decision to stay in that game. I think it has more to do with people not wanting that one decision to tarnish CJ's career as a Hawkeye.

I appreciate what CJ did as a Hawkeye. Our passing game was average or poor for the most part, but that probably had more to do with GD and it looks like CJ could have a decent stint in the NFL.

With that said, any reasonble person would admit that CJ playing in the 2nd half vs Florida hurt our chances to win that game. If you disagree, go back and watch the game tape. It was painful to watch him drop back, and he was completely immoble and a sitting duck in the pocket vs a good defensive line. He wasn't stepping into his throws effectively, and the velocity and accuracy of his passes was bad. Stanley and Wiegers were very solid backups, and the argument that they didn't know the playbook enough is BS (especially Wiegers). The decision to not step aside and give the backups a chance showed bad leadership in the context of that one game. That doesn't mean he was a bad leader overall.

 

[TC_Hawk]

CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I was being a smartalec about the 'agent' part. I don't know who the guy in street clothes was that was walking with him. I'm surprised you're the first one to catch that. I like to see how well people actually read some posts. The rest of the story is accurate though.

This bothered you, did it?

 

[Tacticalhawk]

Wow - I did not expect this thread to generate nearly so much pissyness. Since this is now a matter of discussion, let's dissect leadership:

1. Perseverance. When Wadley spent his first 3 years at Iowa riding the pine behind inferior talent, and his head coach would take passive aggressive digs at him in the media every chance he got (i.e. when reporters praised Wadley's playmaking, Ferentz would nod and praise someone else who played just as well, or "when Wadley gets to x weight, I will play him more." Did Wadley complain about the lack of playing time, or the fact that he never started a game until his 5th year senior year? Nah. How about when the hawks brought in their first 1,000 yard rushing graduate transfer in history in Wadley's senior year. Did he complain? Nah. Now let's look at CJ. As just a sophomore, CJ was playing behind an NFL caliber QB in Ruddock. CJ was a better talent, in my opinion, but was he a good sport about being the backup like Wadley was? NOPE. He complained, went to the media to complain, and even had his dad complain to the media. In the end, he threatened a transfer to force Ferentz's hand and have himself named starter in the winter before his junior year. Some at that time said that was a dick move, not a leader move.

2. Off the Field. People are really attacking Wadley's leadership because the refs called what was unanimously a bogus penalty during his 80 yard reception as he crossed the goal line? That was a character flaw? Really? 99% of the time, that penalty doesn't get called. Is it still a character flaw if the ref doesn't throw the flag? How about the fact that he made the play out of nothing in the first place? Wadley is clean cut, well spoken, and never been in any kind of trouble. A true leader. While I love CJ too, he was a long haired, non-clean shaven guy who knocked his girlfriend up. If he weren't a great talent who averaged 118 yards per game passing last year, or played for a different team, would he really be a "great leader" in your eyes?

3. Michigan Game Win. Finally, some actually cited last year's once in a generation huge upset against then #2 ranked Michigan as an example of CJ's great leadership compared to Wadley. Those people must have missed that game. The Michigan game was Wadley's breakout game, as he single handedly carried the Hawks on his back. That game, CJ was 6-19 for 66 yards and an interception. lol. Wadley had 200 yards rushing and receiving...and still didn't start the next game. CJ was, at best, a game manager. At worse, a liability in that game.

4. Bowl Game. Finally you've got the bowl game. CJ's performance, and his refusal to come out of the game speaks for itself. He was a "me first" kind of guy rather than a team first guy. Wadley, who welcomed a grad transfer and came off the bench his whole career, is a team first guy and a great leader.

Didnt even read this but a huge smile went on my face for the dumb things Im about to read and how THIS IS OBVIOUS TROLLING PEOPLE.

 

[Tacticalhawk]

CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.

Does the starting QB make the 2 deeps or who on the team is responsible for who plays and who doesnt? Does wanting to play make you a bad leader? C'mon man!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Didnt even read this but a huge smile went on my face for the dumb things Im about to read and how THIS IS OBVIOUS TROLLING PEOPLE.

You're gonna read iowalaw breaking forum rules to try and get reactions.

 

[TC_Hawk]

Does the starting QB make the 2 deeps or who on the team is responsible for who plays and who doesnt? Does wanting to play make you a bad leader? C'mon man!

ummmm. Are you talking to me, or the OP, who I quoted and disagreed with? Just curious.

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

This quote from him says it all:

“If I would have stayed in, that would have been not only selfish to the team but selfish to the other running backs that are healthy,” Wadley said.

Wadley pronounced himself at full health Tuesday. He said he could have finished Saturday’s game but wasn’t confident that his ankle would allow him to make all the cuts he usually does.

CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.

So when CJ was playing hurt during the 2015 season, did you consider him not a leader? Would you of rather had an unproven QB in Tyler Weigers playing and trying to keep Iowa going on to a 12-0 record? Your post is bullshit.

 

[Tacticalhawk]

Does the starting QB make the 2 deeps or who on the team is responsible for who plays and who doesnt? Does wanting to play make you a bad leader? C'mon man!

ummmm. Are you talking to me, or the OP, who I quoted and disagreed with? Just curious.

Youre saying CJ handed them the game. CJ just wanted to play! Its not his call! C'mon man!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Youre saying CJ handed them the game. CJ just wanted to play! Its not his call! C'mon man!

Did you like the part where iowalaw broke forum rules in his post?

 

[Tacticalhawk]

Youre saying CJ handed them the game. CJ just wanted to play! Its not his call! C'mon man!

Did you like the part where iowalaw broke forum rules in his post?

Which part the personal attacks? Honestly Im not up on the forum rules.