By this logic that would mean guys like Andrew Luck , Philip Rivers, and Peyton Manning were not as good as leaders as Jay cutler.
BTW, it's been a while since I've been able to get someone like you so riled up. It's fun!
In terms of skill or intelligence? Or are we talking inspiration ability? Wow, so much gray.
Thanks! And you have a future in the trailer park.You have a future in politics.
Thanks! And you have a future in the trailer park.
Sigh... OK, here goes.You're losing steam fast.
Funny and important "Statement"You forgot to start this post with "IowaLaw objective view".
This quote from him says it all:
“If I would have stayed in, that would have been not only selfish to the team but selfish to the other running backs that are healthy,” Wadley said.
Wadley pronounced himself at full health Tuesday. He said he could have finished Saturday’s game but wasn’t confident that his ankle would allow him to make all the cuts he usually does.
CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.
Sigh... OK, here goes.
There are many reasons why you are acting a moron in this thread. 1) your desperate defense of all thing CJ borders on obsession. He was a great leader. I liked watching him, a lot. But he also probably cost us the game against Florida(which is OK to say).
2)Your complete misunderstanding of what you are even arguing. Are you upset that someone dares question your hero? Are you upset that someone finally called out your childhood nightmare, that you can't read? Or, are you just mad at the world? And you don't even know why...Sad.
3) Currently, you are sitting behind your screen, and this is the saddest part of the image for me, giggling to yourself as if you really made any good points, at all, ever throughout this thread. You didn't.
So quit wasting my time. Go post in the SAB threads, or better yet banish yourself to the Scout board and quit bringing your weak ass shit into my house.
Sad stuff. Flattering that you devoted all that to me. We don't go 12-0 without CJB's leadership in 2015. And we don't beat Michigan last year without CJB's leadership in that game. So while you spend a lot of time trying to make yourself sound smart and dig out of the hole you're in on this, the simple question remains, do you think Wadley is a better leader than Beathard ever was?
My answer? I don't have any idea. Their both great players to watch, though. I'm not at any practice, nor am I a coach. Just a fan. I'm sure they both have leadership strengths and weaknesses.
(Psst...that's called nuance)
So.......you went back to talking out of your ass again?This quote from him says it all:
“If I would have stayed in, that would have been not only selfish to the team but selfish to the other running backs that are healthy,” Wadley said.
Wadley pronounced himself at full health Tuesday. He said he could have finished Saturday’s game but wasn’t confident that his ankle would allow him to make all the cuts he usually does.
CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.
Checkmate. But thanks for playing.
How exactly? It was a one score game and Iowa was inside the five yard line. We don't know what Stanley would have done, good or bad.The Outback bowl was lost long before CJ was injured.
Yahtzee?
Oh, love how you added the "Thanks for playing" part. Soooo goood.
There's a huge difference between having an dinged LB or QB in versus RB. The MIKE LB and the QB are responsible for helping to manipulate the chess pieces on the board ... based on what they see. That experience and knowledge is invaluable. There is certainly a trade-off between the benefits from that knowledge versus limitations in playing-ability due to the nature of the "ding."Well, those of you who Law offended, what do you think of what Wadley (our new hero) said ?
I was thrilled with what Beathard did in 2015 and I went to Indianapolis and the Rose Bowl, but I don't think that he was entitled to play injured in last years bowl game when we had Stanley or Wiegers healthy on the sideline. I thought it was painful to watch C. J. play and that's not how I chose to remember him as a Hawkeye.
It's like now, do we know how injured Josey really is ? He doesn't look like he did in the first week. If he's not 100%, let's play Welch or someone who's healthy against ISU and No. Texas. I thought that's why teams have 85 scholarships, so players get ready to play.
Thanks, good to know you're on the edge of your seat waiting for my posts. By the way it's "they're" not "their". No biggie, just FYI.
Ah, the desperate grammar post. The last refuge of a weak poster.
It is fun to see how long I can keep winding you up, though.
Dance, monkey, dance.
Yes, that is an accurate representation of what I'm doing to you...except it would need to include you on your hands and knees, and I ain't using no vaseline!
Yes, that is an accurate representation of what I'm doing to you...except it would need to include you on your hands and knees, and I ain't using no vaseline!
Duh. You're really bad at this.
Aaannnndddd, he's out. Hey, you went longer than most. Got to give you credit there.
Yeah you're clearly the man here, tiger. Obviously.
Glad we can agree on something. That, my friend, is black or white.
Doesn't it feel nice to finally let go?
I just want you to feel good about yourself. Been a rough night for you.
This quote from him says it all:
“If I would have stayed in, that would have been not only selfish to the team but selfish to the other running backs that are healthy,” Wadley said.
Wadley pronounced himself at full health Tuesday. He said he could have finished Saturday’s game but wasn’t confident that his ankle would allow him to make all the cuts he usually does.
CJ, on the other hand, through no help of his head coach, single handedly handed Florida the Outback Bowl last year and let tens of thousands of Hawk fans down, who spent their time and hard earned money to fly down for the game only to see the Hawks get absolutely embarrassed by Florida. CJ had to be the "tough guy" and play at 20% rather than putting his pride aside and letting Stanley give the Hawks (and the seniors) a fighting chance in the game.
No, remember your parameters. It's a simple question.
DOESN'T IT FEEL NICE TO FINALLY LET GO?
Well, I'm going to put a different spin on this. I think it was Wadley's agent who wouldn't let him play after he 'tweeked' his ankle. At the spring game, the kids weren't supposed to be able to get autographs, but I had a large group of middle school football players who went down to the corner of the stands as the players were leaving and they were awesome about signing autographs and some of them (including Meerkat) did selfies with them....then at the end here came Wadley with his agent and his agent wouldn't let him go anywhere near the kids. I gave him an earful as he was leaving. I like Wadley, but NO he is not anywhere near the leader that so many of these other players are and have been. Not everyone is....Two completely different situations. Obviously you don't understand the nature of the game of football. Situation A is a senior QB with a true freshman backup with a total of two live snaps facing a tough defense. At that point Stanley was limited in his understanding of the O and it was Beathard's last game. A QB has to know the playback and the hotreads and be able to read the defense as the play develops. Situation B is a senior RB who when he left was backed up by another senior RB. RB have to know the playbook but rely more in instinct and vision. When Butler went down BF/KF rolled the dice on freshman and they had success. If they would failed to move the chains you bet your ass Wadley would have seen at least one more series to ensure a W.
Neither Beathard or Stanley stood a chance against FL. But Beathard's knowledge of the playbook provided the best chance to win. If Stanley would have been ready KF might have played him.
Well, I'm going to put a different spin on this. I think it was Wadley's agent who wouldn't let him play after he 'tweeked' his ankle. At the spring game, the kids weren't supposed to be able to get autographs, but I had a large group of middle school football players who went down to the corner of the stands as the players were leaving and they were awesome about signing autographs and some of them (including Meerkat) did selfies with them....then at the end here came Wadley with his agent and his agent wouldn't let him go anywhere near the kids. I gave him an earful as he was leaving. I like Wadley, but NO he is not anywhere near the leader that so many of these other players are and have been. Not everyone is....Two completely different situations. Obviously you don't understand the nature of the game of football. Situation A is a senior QB with a true freshman backup with a total of two live snaps facing a tough defense. At that point Stanley was limited in his understanding of the O and it was Beathard's last game. A QB has to know the playback and the hotreads and be able to read the defense as the play develops. Situation B is a senior RB who when he left was backed up by another senior RB. RB have to know the playbook but rely more in instinct and vision. When Butler went down BF/KF rolled the dice on freshman and they had success. If they would failed to move the chains you bet your ass Wadley would have seen at least one more series to ensure a W.
Neither Beathard or Stanley stood a chance against FL. But Beathard's knowledge of the playbook provided the best chance to win. If Stanley would have been ready KF might have played him.
Of course it does tiger. Of course it does. I'm guessing you'll have a better day tomorrow.
Well, I'm going to put a different spin on this. I think it was Wadley's agent who wouldn't let him play after he 'tweeked' his ankle. At the spring game, the kids weren't supposed to be able to get autographs, but I had a large group of middle school football players who went down to the corner of the stands as the players were leaving and they were awesome about signing autographs and some of them (including Meerkat) did selfies with them....then at the end here came Wadley with his agent and his agent wouldn't let him go anywhere near the kids. I gave him an earful as he was leaving. I like Wadley, but NO he is not anywhere near the leader that so many of these other players are and have been. Not everyone is....