By this logic that would mean guys like Andrew Luck , Philip Rivers, and Peyton Manning were not as good as leaders as Jay cutler.
Wadley A Better Leader Than Beathard Ever Was
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Two completely different situations. Obviously you don't understand the nature of the game of football. Situation A is a senior QB with a true freshman backup with a total of two live snaps facing a tough defense. At that point Stanley was limited in his understanding of the O and it was Beathard's last game. A QB has to know the playback and the hotreads and be able to read the defense as the play develops. Situation B is a senior RB who when he left was backed up by another senior RB. RB have to know the playbook but rely more in instinct and vision. When Butler went down BF/KF rolled the dice on freshman and they had success. If they would failed to move the chains you bet your ass Wadley would have seen at least one more series to ensure a W.
Neither Beathard or Stanley stood a chance against FL. But Beathard's knowledge of the playbook provided the best chance to win. If Stanley would have been ready KF might have played him.
Neither Beathard or Stanley stood a chance against FL. But Beathard's knowledge of the playbook provided the best chance to win. If Stanley would have been ready KF might have played him.
Sigh... OK, here goes.
There are many reasons why you are acting a moron in this thread. 1) your desperate defense of all thing CJ borders on obsession. He was a great leader. I liked watching him, a lot. But he also probably cost us the game against Florida(which is OK to say).
2)Your complete misunderstanding of what you are even arguing. Are you upset that someone dares question your hero? Are you upset that someone finally called out your childhood nightmare, that you can't read? Or, are you just mad at the world? And you don't even know why...Sad.
3) Currently, you are sitting behind your screen, and this is the saddest part of the image for me, giggling to yourself as if you really made any good points, at all, ever throughout this thread. You didn't.
So quit wasting my time. Go post in the SAB threads, or better yet banish yourself to the Scout board and quit bringing your weak ass shit into my house.
Sad stuff. Flattering that you devoted all that to me. We don't go 12-0 without CJB's leadership in 2015. And we don't beat Michigan last year without CJB's leadership in that game. So while you spend a lot of time trying to make yourself sound smart and dig out of the hole you're in on this, the simple question remains, do you think Wadley is a better leader than Beathard ever was?
My answer? I don't have any idea. Their both great players to watch, though. I'm not at any practice, nor am I a coach. Just a fan. I'm sure they both have leadership strengths and weaknesses.
(Psst...that's called nuance)
Hey Iowa Law, OJ is being released and I am sure he will soon be in need of another dream team lawyer, better start preparing for that and spare us your insight.
How exactly? It was a one score game and Iowa was inside the five yard line. We don't know what Stanley would have done, good or bad.
Thanks, good to know you're on the edge of your seat waiting for my posts. By the way it's "they're" not "their". No biggie, just FYI.
There's a huge difference between having an dinged LB or QB in versus RB. The MIKE LB and the QB are responsible for helping to manipulate the chess pieces on the board ... based on what they see. That experience and knowledge is invaluable. There is certainly a trade-off between the benefits from that knowledge versus limitations in playing-ability due to the nature of the "ding."
If a RB is dinged ... and the individual cannot cut as well. Then, not matter how well they read things ... if they cannot make their body move accordingly ... then they're not going to get many rushing yards on the play. Furthermore, a RB with a dinged ankle can be a huge liability in pass-pro ... because then he cannot anchor (as well) when blocking against LBs and others.
There's a little thing here called "context" ... and it matters.
The original question is only interesting insofar as it the question it begs concerning the trade-offs of playing injured players who are at vital, cerebral positions (like QB, C, MLB, and FS).
Ah, the desperate grammar post. The last refuge of a weak poster.
It is fun to see how long I can keep winding you up, though.
Dance, monkey, dance.
Yes, that is an accurate representation of what I'm doing to you...except it would need to include you on your hands and knees, and I ain't using no vaseline!
Aaannnndddd, he's out. Hey, you went longer than most. Got to give you credit there.
Glad we can agree on something. That, my friend, is black or white.
Doesn't it feel nice to finally let go?
I lost all respect for you after this post IowaLaw, just kidding and I think you're pretty right on with this post
No, remember your parameters. It's a simple question.
DOESN'T IT FEEL NICE TO FINALLY LET GO?
At least Beathard waited the last couple quarters of his career to be a bad leader. Sure glad he was an above and beyond leader previous to that incident!
Man excellent troll post! Are you submitting this stuff to that one former ESPN iowa hater guy? You guys could make some good money together!
Of course it does tiger. Of course it does. I'm guessing you'll have a better day tomorrow.
Well, I'm going to put a different spin on this. I think it was Wadley's agent who wouldn't let him play after he 'tweeked' his ankle. At the spring game, the kids weren't supposed to be able to get autographs, but I had a large group of middle school football players who went down to the corner of the stands as the players were leaving and they were awesome about signing autographs and some of them (including Meerkat) did selfies with them....then at the end here came Wadley with his agent and his agent wouldn't let him go anywhere near the kids. I gave him an earful as he was leaving. I like Wadley, but NO he is not anywhere near the leader that so many of these other players are and have been. Not everyone is....
iowalaw, I'll give you credit for pointing out the difference in a somewhat similar situation. Zero credit for beating a dead horse. Negative credit for trashing a Hawkeye. Negative credit for actually providing any evidence to support your claim. You realize this QB, at any time, could be starting in the NFL in his rookie season! I think he should have came out also, I'm ok with why he didn't and what does it really matter now.
Of course it does tiger. Of course it does. I'm guessing you'll have a better day tomorrow.
Don't know about the leadership ability as I'm not on the team but I like Wadley a lot. Obviously because of his abilities but also because he is articulate and thoughtful. He seems like a good guy.
None of these things are related. It's a stupid thread created to stir stupid ideas. Successful at that.
Calling BS on this post. Wadley was one of the few upperclassman to come to the corner on kids day and sign autographs. It was almost all freshman, but here came Wadley even as the clock was ticking down for practice to start. My son got his football signed by him, and I even have pics to prove it, lol. Everyone loves pics on here.
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