Twitter is not a healthy environment to be part of no matter which side you're on. If you're using twitter to validate your thoughts and ideas, you really should do some self reflection.
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Twitter is not a healthy environment to be part of no matter which side you're on. If you're using twitter to validate your thoughts and ideas, you really should do some self reflection.
If you think any legal immigrants aren't going to be shipped out I've got a bridge to sell ya
Pretend you are a kid at recess playing a game. You run to or touch an area and say "base" and are now safe. No one can tag you or do anything to you.
Now apply that to the border.
Not trying to be a dick but just telling you basically word for word what pisses some of my coworkers off.
I hope trump ships them all out, but he won't. This is just another "build the wall" joke that does nothing but feed the anger of people. I have no skin in the game when it comes to immigrants so ship em out, I don't really care.
Do yourself a favor and never redownload twitter either.
Getting rid of all social media besides this if you count it is one of the best decisions I've made
Sorry, confused: So was it Harris’ race and gender that was the problem, or that she was not a better candidate?
People want to blame misogyny and racism. They just don’t want to admit that she comes across as unlikable and, uh, not smart.
Bad message and bad messenger = double whammy.
Both?
I think she was a better candidate than Trump but clearly I’m outvoted there.
She is definitely not the best candidate the Dems could’ve put up but I don’t know if anyone else was a realistic option under the circumstances.
It's not that hard to understand, unless you refuse to understand. Those who dismiss the border/illegal crisis live in towns and communities that they don't deal with any of the community and economic and crime fallout of illegal immigrants. That is, unless Desantis buses them in.
Guess who DOES live in communities that are being strained, having hardships, and experiencing economic and quality of life fallout from illegal Latino immigrants? Latino voters.
The Martha's Vineyard crowd lecturing Latino Americans in border towns about the borders is one of the big reasons the Democrats are here today.
Her race and gender are part of what makes her a candidate, so it's not an "or" situation.
Nothing to do with any of this. A majority of Americans stopped thinking and put an authoritarian strongman in power to fix everything. Even though his "fixes" don't make any sense.
Republicans are always going to find more bullshit "issues" like the trans to flim flam people. The border will now disappear as an issue until it becomes convenient to raise the rascist flag again.
If it really is about inflation (gas/grocery prices), Trump's declared agenda is just gonna make that issue much worse.
Democrats have been trying to appeal to the population with "common sense" positions for decades now and it's gotten them nowhere, they have a messaging problem, not an issues problem.
Don’t disagree.
What’s also eye opening is clearly many Latino voters are fine closing the door behind them once they’re here.
I guess the practical message is Dems can no longer count on automatic votes.
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I don't think Latino voters in PA live in communities that are struggling with hardships due to illegal Latino immigrants.
I get a good laugh when people blindly group people together with a label like Latino. You're including multiple groups in your Latino label and many of them don't like the people coming over the boarder and certainly don't want to be under the same label. It doesn't have to be illegals causing hardship, there are going to be groups (from your Latino label) that don't like and even hate what coming over the boards because it reflects poorly on them.
She was a bad candidate simply because her race and gender made it too easy for MAGA to reduce crossover despite Trumps’s insanity coupled with Latino and African American male votes increasing for Trump. Such a feat would have required a celebrity like status with massive charisma like an Oprah or Michele Obama or say a Beyoncé. And I know that sounds sad and crazy but it’s true. Country is not ready for a female minority president unless they have star power. We are on a path of both sides running unqualified celebrities for senate and president soon. It’s all entertainment now.
The MAGA Republicans play guys like this like a violin. It's all about the emotions and the resentments. As if ten point programs and "issues" have anything at all to do with how this guy votes.
Even when they win elections guys like this are spewing bile the next day.
I don't think this election had anything to do with the candidate the Dems were going to put up against Trump. Didn't matter.
A majority of Americans chose the authoritarian strongman who's gonna fix everything easily and with no pain or complication.
Good luck to America with that.
I dunno, I finally made a Twitter account a few weeks ago, and that place is hilarious:
Yeah, I totally 'get' why she became the nominee. The D's really didn't have any other practical choice. But the thing is, people seem to forget that she was like the first one out in the 2020 primary, was a less-than-one-term senator from a state that was essentially an echo chamber for its party, and didn't have to run in a primary. Like it or not, that's not exactly a scenario that gives confidence in an "iron sharpens iron" kind of way that you do in fact need in a presidential campaign. But I totally get why it worked that way, and I said, I really think she played the strategy fairly well.
yeah, i haven't seen the 'full' cross tabs on this, but at one point last night somebody said that one of the "most important issues" in exit polls was "danger to democracy." Now I'd think almost anybody would think that's a d-friendly group of voters, but I could have sworn that last night i heard some commentator say that for some jurisdiction, that broke R. Again, maybe i misheard, but if that's correct, I guess it would mean that 'lawfare' was perceived to be real.
Beyond that, from what i heard, economy was #1/2, and abortion and immigration were materially behind the economy and democracy. That is a little stunning to me too. At a higher philosophical level, it raises future questions about strategies based on teh aggregate effects of microtargeting, versus strategies based on macrotargeting.
that's a possibility i suppose. perhaps next year's VA gubernatorial race will test that a bit.
i have no doubt some will, but i don't think they were the ones who broke for trump either.
Agree generally. They put out a back up QB that had never really won a big game.
I do however disagree that the party couldn't have done more to find a different option. That would have required them and the media to be honest about Biden's condition. They weren't going to do that until it became too late / obvious.
The abortion thing is interesting. I was looking at Arizona, and their abortion amendment passed overwhelmingly but Trump was leading last I looked. Which suggests that people split their vote there and that abortion wasn’t the huge driver for Harris that the campaign was counting on.
I'm going to take it further, very religious people won't vote for a women. And that can be any religion, Catholics, Jews, etc.
Yes yes. If only we could be as nice and kind and gentle and calm and tolerant as Trump and the MAGA party, we would not be here.
Forgot that number 2 on the list for being a MAGA cult member, after playing the victim card, is complete lack of self awareness and hypocrisy.
I can't think of anything other that maybe a different VP that Harris could have handled better as a candidate. Maybe Sapiro would have delivered PA, but given the results of the election I don't think it would have won her the Presidency. Voters seem to want the "miracle" fixes Trump promises.
My take....Covid response in 2020 was the reason Trump lost.
Then four years later, that shitty Covid response led to product shortages and the ensuing price gouging that flamed inflation and voters blamed the Party in the WH.
Two elections affected by Covid.
Voters rewarded the original culprit.
Ain't Merica great?
Then four years later, that shitty Covid response led to product shortages and the ensuing price gouging that flamed inflation and voters blamed the Party in the WH.
Two elections affected by Covid.
Voters rewarded the original culprit.
Ain't Merica great?
The threat Trump poses is way too abstract a notion for most Americans and can't easily be distilled down into a 30 second ad.
Didn't Hilary do pretty well though? Won't the popular vote by a good margin. As I've said since I first saw her in the 2020 primaries, Kamala is a lousy POTUS candidate. Boring, mediocre speaker, struggles to cultivate any sort of identity candidate. (granted, not a lot of time in 2024)
Which candidate trashed the other side more?
Right.
Stop being such a low-IQ individual.
The average voter isn't engaged at all. They are mostly just voting based on a general feeling or concept, but a lot of the issues that drive engaged voters. The kind of people that post on HBOT don't even register for large segment of people entering the voting booth. That is why Trump's fifth grade communication approach is effective electorally. There are engaged voters who want nuance and policy but they are the minority.
