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Well, hell. Now what? (Dog bit me) - 2nd Update: #353

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So, the family dog bit the crap out of me last night. He'll be 2 this June and we've already got like $5k into this Golden Doodle (he's part of the family). He's extremely well trained--leash walking, house broke, tricks, heck he can open and shut the back door.

However, he's always had a resource guarding issue and last night I did not read him well. In hindsight, I now recognize he was pissed his friend (another doodle) was eating his food. Joey (my dog) jumped up on the couch, tail stiff and showing me his teeth. I sat down with him trying to figure out what was going on. I noticed the other dog eating his food and commented on it. As I sat back on the couch, I patted my chest for him to come over and he stepped on my crotch. When I went to move his paw he mauled my dadgum hand. I had to go to the ER last night (hence the late night posting).

Now, I don't trust him. What if he were to ever bite my son or another kid? Do I hire another trainer (more $$) to see if we can break him of this? I love this darn dog.

There are a total of 7 deep punctures (the others are on my palm):

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I would have him put down…unless I went alpha on him, pinning to the ground, squeezing his snout shut and loudly growling in his face…then watching his reaction to that.
 
I gotta admit (here's how I'd look at the situation)...

Chances are, you're never going to trust the dog again. You unfortunately now know what it's capable of.

If there's a child in the house, do you want to risk THAT happening to the child? YOUR child?

I think I agree with those saying to put it down. You simply cannot risk it, and no matter how much you may otherwise like the dog, that is always going to be in the back of your mind.
 
If you have kids and keep that dog, you're an idiot. Had a family member that had just the best dog ever that bit the owner in a similar way. They brushed it off and about 6 months later it took a chunk out of his kid leaving a permant deformity. I'd take that dog to the farm and put a .22 bullet in its skull.
 
I’d probably give him away or have him put down. You can never trust a dog like that again. And if he does it again, to your kid or a stranger, you can’t say you didn’t expect it, or wouldn’t be partly responsible if you don’t address it.
There are plenty of dogs available that won’t bite the hand that feeds them.
 
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I fvcking love dogs, but I think you have to make the hard decision here. When I was growing up we had a chow chow. Cute as hell but the breed is nothing to fvck with. Bit me, my sister and mom on three separate occasions. Our love blinded us to what should have been done. Lucky he never bit a stranger. At the end of the day, dogs are animals, and if they attack the ones closest to them, they’re not to be trusted.
 
I’d probably give him away or have him put down. You can never trust a dog like that again. And if he does it again, to your kid or a stranger, you can’t say you didn’t expect it, or wouldn’t be partly responsible if you don’t address it.
There are plenty of dogs available that won’t bite the hand that feeds them.
Why would you give away a dog you can't trust? Here you go guys, hope he doesn't bite you or your kids face like he did my hand.
 
I’d try to rehome the dog. Golden doodles are off the charts popular.
This is sort of the problem. Not the rehoming, but their popularity. Mills breed them out to be cute and hypoalergenic but disregard diseases and temperament. People want the popular, cute, hypoallergenic dog for cheap and do not do their research. That puts biting dogs into the market.

I do not speak for OP, and I do not know how much he paid for the dog, or the breeder. It's just the nature of dog breeding world.
 
A good article here, OP. If you have the $$ you can go the behavior modification route and you'll almost certainly never have another problem. You might think even that's too much risk but ANY dog will bite under the right (wrong) conditions - there's ALWAYS a risk. Best line from the article:

If humans better understood dogs, we would realize it’s about behavior, not trust.

https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/behavior/what-to-do-when-your-dog-bites/
 
I think selective rehoming is best bet. Make sure it is going to a home no other dogs and no children and you have a solid solution better than euthanizing a pet who might of just had a really bad moment. Obviously, this involves being very upfront on what happened so people taking know what they are getting into.

But I just think you have lost your own trust in dog, for very legitimate reasons, and you simply have to be very conservative on path forward with your own 10 year old kid in house.
 
So, the family dog bit the crap out of me last night. He'll be 2 this June and we've already got like $5k into this Golden Doodle (he's part of the family). He's extremely well trained--leash walking, house broke, tricks, heck he can open and shut the back door.

However, he's always had a resource guarding issue and last night I did not read him well. In hindsight, I now recognize he was pissed his friend (another doodle) was eating his food. Joey (my dog) jumped up on the couch, tail stiff and showing me his teeth. I sat down with him trying to figure out what was going on. I noticed the other dog eating his food and commented on it. As I sat back on the couch, I patted my chest for him to come over and he stepped on my crotch. When I went to move his paw he mauled my dadgum hand. I had to go to the ER last night (hence the late night posting).

Now, I don't trust him. What if he were to ever bite my son or another kid? Do I hire another trainer (more $$) to see if we can break him of this? I love this darn dog.

There are a total of 7 deep punctures (the others are on my palm):

Qs5YIf0.jpeg

V8BofeL.jpg
I know it can happen (obviously) but I can’t imagine a doodle doing that. At least any I know. One of them is hyper smart and hates other dogs but loves people. The other one is kind of owly but she never bitten. When they do growl or something it is indeed protecting a chewy or food. Csb.
 
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So, the family dog bit the crap out of me last night. He'll be 2 this June and we've already got like $5k into this Golden Doodle (he's part of the family). He's extremely well trained--leash walking, house broke, tricks, heck he can open and shut the back door.

However, he's always had a resource guarding issue and last night I did not read him well. In hindsight, I now recognize he was pissed his friend (another doodle) was eating his food. Joey (my dog) jumped up on the couch, tail stiff and showing me his teeth. I sat down with him trying to figure out what was going on. I noticed the other dog eating his food and commented on it. As I sat back on the couch, I patted my chest for him to come over and he stepped on my crotch. When I went to move his paw he mauled my dadgum hand. I had to go to the ER last night (hence the late night posting).

Now, I don't trust him. What if he were to ever bite my son or another kid? Do I hire another trainer (more $$) to see if we can break him of this? I love this darn dog.

There are a total of 7 deep punctures (the others are on my palm):

Qs5YIf0.jpeg

V8BofeL.jpg
You know what you have to do…


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A good article here, OP. If you have the $$ you can go the behavior modification route and you'll almost certainly never have another problem. You might think even that's too much risk but ANY dog will bite under the right (wrong) conditions - there's ALWAYS a risk. Best line from the article:

If humans better understood dogs, we would realize it’s about behavior, not trust.

https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/behavior/what-to-do-when-your-dog-bites/
Thanks, Tar. I'll check it out. I 100% agree about better understanding. My first reaction was GET OFF ME!!!!!!!!! followed quickly by why. I want to understand why he did it so we can work to prevent it in the future. It's why my wife was looking at those voice command buttons, so he can clearly communicate with us what his needs are.
 
My brother trained our dog when he was young. He would be very stern with him when he would ever get aggressive or did something "wrong". If he did something bad he would get put in his kennel, similar to a child getting put in "time out".

We broke him of biting people early on by using peanut butter. I'd put some peanut butter on my finger and let him lick it up and get use to that and feeling comfortable with a human hand around his mouth.

That way even when he'd get fiesty if we were playing with him or patting him, what he would end up doing is putting his mouth on my hand and then back off and start licking it. He'd never bite down because he knew not to. And this was when he was still very young.
 
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Thanks, Tar. I'll check it out. I 100% agree about better understanding. My first reaction was GET OFF ME!!!!!!!!! followed quickly by why. I want to understand why he did it so we can work to prevent it in the future. It's why my wife was looking at those voice command buttons, so he can clearly communicate with us what his needs are.
Having a kid/s and considering keeping that dog is crazy. Good luck, and I honestly mean that. I hope your family doesn't suffer the same fate that people I know have. They just had to keep that pet and it would never do that again. Both cases it happened again.
 
I would have him put down…unless I went alpha on him, pinning to the ground, squeezing his snout shut and loudly growling in his face…then watching his reaction to that.
I would and have done this. It works, but I would warn you that if they are alone with other people, you are taking a risk.
 
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My brother trained our dog when he was young. He would be very stern with him when he would ever get aggressive or did something "wrong". If he did something bad he would get put in his kennel, similar to a child getting put in "time out".

We broke him of biting people early on by using peanut butter. I'd put some peanut butter on my finger and let him lick it up and get use to that and feeling comfortable with a human hand around his mouth.

That way even when he'd get fiesty if we were playing with him or patting him, what he would end up doing is putting his mouth on my hand and then back off and start licking it. He'd never bite down because he knew not to. And this was when he was still very young.
All I can read is “I'd put some peanut butter on my finger and let him lick it up and get use to that and feeling ” and think of all the dog and peanut butter jokes.
 
Dogs are pack animals. The head of the pack with young kids cant EVER allow wrestling/biting. Could you save him? Yes, but likely YOU wont do what is necessary. Youve likely created a no win situation. Your kids have to show him who is boss or they will be targets. At their age wont happen. I dont think you can do it as you didnt already know. My advice ...cut your losses and cut the the dog out now before something occurs.

In correcting the situation you will likely be the loser in the eyes of your kids. Doodles sometimes are not docile.

You can find how to take control but not at some love your dog to niceness website. 100 percent consistency....the dog though is too big for a 10 yo to be consistently above the dog in tge pack.
 
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I have the EXACT same feelings. It's all about my son and his friends. Now that I know and if it were to ever happen again, not sure I could live with that.

Then you know what you have to do. Rehome with a large disclaimer or put down. I had to put down a dog that had behavioral issues / attacking our other dog. And while it sucked, even the humane society agreed they couldn't adopt her back out for risk.

That it sat there and debated and then bit you isn't a good sign IMO.
 
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