Well, hell. Now what? (Dog bit me) - 2nd Update: #353
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Not if you've been attacked by one, which I have been, simply for being invited into a relatives home. Now they have 3 of them. I haven't been back.
1) Huge dog lover myself
2) Can understand the OP's internal moral dilemma, but even with the facts OP has stated, no way you could keep it in the house with kids (his or potentially anyone elses). I would look to rehome him to someone on a farm or something. A place where he is not inside with other dogs or kids all day. He's probably best spent living the rest of his days as being a "farm dog" without the constant human attention. Would be my 2 cents.
3) Surprised no one has mentioned OP's good fortune in that the dog stepped on his junk, OP then went to move paw out of the way and got his hand bit.......good thing Joey didn't put 7 deep punctures in your d*ck!
2) Can understand the OP's internal moral dilemma, but even with the facts OP has stated, no way you could keep it in the house with kids (his or potentially anyone elses). I would look to rehome him to someone on a farm or something. A place where he is not inside with other dogs or kids all day. He's probably best spent living the rest of his days as being a "farm dog" without the constant human attention. Would be my 2 cents.
3) Surprised no one has mentioned OP's good fortune in that the dog stepped on his junk, OP then went to move paw out of the way and got his hand bit.......good thing Joey didn't put 7 deep punctures in your d*ck!
In case anyone can't tell, OP is going to keep the dog. Every post is spent excusing the behavior.
If my dog did that, it would have been an all out battle and people would be pulling me off of her. The reaction would not have been pretty. But she knows her position in the hierarchy of the house.
He gave him a stern talking to and now the dog feels bad.
Not necessarily true. Wife is on the phone with the breeder in the other room.
This is a discussion and it's not an easy one. Also, don't confuse trying to understand the behavior with excusing it. @tarheelbybirth seems to understand that.
It’s painfully obvious. Too each their own. I hope he doesn’t end up regretting that decision.
I’m not so sure the dog needs to be euthanized but it certainly wouldn’t be living in my home with my kids anymore. I probably would have been at the pound the next day with full disclosure on what happened. See what they say.
Tough position to be in op. Sorry you are in it.
Oh man, if only there were some women around to watch all the alphas in this thread coming out.
Makes you wonder why some folks even own dogs if they can be discarded so easily like trash w/o thought. It's not like this a pit bull thread.Oh man, if only there were some women around to watch all the alphas in this thread coming out.
Obvious yer going to keep that dog. And convince yourself of whatever you need to that he is a good boy, it was probably your fault, "we just need to watch him" ect.
I went through the shit also man, search "rocky" under my post. One of the hardest things I've ever had to do, but it wasn't safe, and he never actually bit anyone.
I don’t think breed matters when it comes to unwarranted attacks. That’s just deflecting.
"obvious" because it's a difficult situation? That makes zero sense. Wife just got off the phone with our breeder. She's willing to rehome him on her ranch. However, she gave her a number to a behavioral trainer, so my wife is going to call that number plus she's waiting on a call back from our previous trainer, Raven, who did all the in-home and socialization training.
Not sure why going through the motions (and emotions) equates to keeping our dog.
I learned my lesson on dog breeds with Rocky. I have A lab now and that breed also very much falls under this category, but, Goldens and Poodles have been breed to oblivion and even though you paid a shit ton for a designer dog doesn't mean it can't have shitty genetics coming from those bastardized lines.
Your "it's isn't a pit" statement is telling.
I know Ioway rural really well. This is just how a lot of their brains work.
The bluster is what’s funny. That’s very Ioway rural tough guy though too.
The dog already had 2k in training which didn't work. But, maybe another 2k in training...will also not work.
Which you won't find out until it happens again.
You might have that dog for what? 10 years? You really want to prioritize that time with an animal over your own human son's safety? I don't know how someone could live with themselves if that dog bit their kid in the face in a year or two.
Which you won't find out until it happens again.
You might have that dog for what? 10 years? You really want to prioritize that time with an animal over your own human son's safety? I don't know how someone could live with themselves if that dog bit their kid in the face in a year or two.
Zero training for resource guarding or behavior. Training for not pissing in the house, chewing up shoes, sitting, and not attacking other dogs.
So, in your opinion a dog that is almost 2 years old that has never done this wouldn't even warrant a call to a behavior specialist. Just instant discarding?
Yes, I could never trust that dog again. And, I couldn't risk putting my child in that situation.
If there weren't a small child in the home, it might be a different story. But, even then, probably not.
Just my two cents. I was a teen when I came home one night to see my mom and sisters in tears with puncture wounds on arms and legs. They were watching tv when one of them was eating something and dropped a piece on the floor near their feet. They reached to pick it up from their sitting position on the sofa when our dog bit them in the hand and then proceeded to eat the food on the floor. I think my mom and other sister tried to scold or intervene when he bit them both as well before hiding behind the sofa along the wall. I arrive home 5-10 minutes after this happened. I raised my voice and he came out from behind the sofa in a surrendering position. He knew he was bad. Thing is, he had bitten one of my sisters once about 6 months before causing one small puncture. Parents tried to rationalize it and say it was an accident and took him to training. Needless to say he was put down a couple of days later. It was hard on us all, but especially for my dad who was gone in Desert Storm... it was his dog. He felt like if he was home it would have never happened. Loved the dog, but once they bit it's highly likely that they will do it again no matter what training or understanding you attempt. Again, just my two cents.
From the outside looking in, this is a much easier call. Since you have a kid in the home, the dog has to go. I think your brain is likely telling you this, but your heart is telling you different. Go with your brain. You would never forgive yourself if your child has to have plastic surgery on his face.
Exactly this. I just told my wife this, "If you had to chose between Matt and Joey, who would you chose?"
She teared up, said you know the answer and walked out of my office.
You guys are getting literally live updates on this one.
Pic of wife's tits would strongly help us lead you.
This is a cynical comment but is the breeder "rehoming the dog on the ranch" code for putting him down - at least as far as what a breeder would do?
No, I don't think so, BUT if she has issues, then I believe that is what will happen. I think my son knowing he's off trotting around an open field rather than, "Dad just took him to have him put down" is better for him (my son) as well.
So, a couple of things. Play biting and teaching a puppy the limit of that behavior (essentially that it's not allowed under any circumstances) must be done during the first 6 months of a puppy's life. If you miss that window and the behavior persists, it's very difficult to extinguish (but not necessarily impossible). It's vital that a dog understands that a human hand can and will touch, probe and examine their mouths and the rest of their body at any time and that it's not a threat to them and that biting a hand even lightly is not allowed at all. Playing with a dog and allowing them to play bite is setting them up to fail IMO.
We took in a rescued German Shepherd (approximately 2 years old, found wandering around in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey) for possible adoption about 7 years ago and within the first 24 hours I knew that this dog was not going to work out. He was way too mouthy and when warned he would not immediately stop. It's like playing with a time bomb IMO. I have grandkids who visit often and there was no way I was going to risk having that dog in my home, it's just not worth it.
There are organizations out there that will take in dogs with a history of bites, but they're often full and at capacity. There are also private owners who will take a chance on a dog like yours. I would hope you'd make a great effort to find one if at all possible instead of putting him down if it comes to that. Certainly do not try to pawn him off on an unsuspecting home, you need to make full disclosure to any potential owner taking in the dog. Sorry about your injury, that really sucks.
We took in a rescued German Shepherd (approximately 2 years old, found wandering around in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey) for possible adoption about 7 years ago and within the first 24 hours I knew that this dog was not going to work out. He was way too mouthy and when warned he would not immediately stop. It's like playing with a time bomb IMO. I have grandkids who visit often and there was no way I was going to risk having that dog in my home, it's just not worth it.
There are organizations out there that will take in dogs with a history of bites, but they're often full and at capacity. There are also private owners who will take a chance on a dog like yours. I would hope you'd make a great effort to find one if at all possible instead of putting him down if it comes to that. Certainly do not try to pawn him off on an unsuspecting home, you need to make full disclosure to any potential owner taking in the dog. Sorry about your injury, that really sucks.
Just want to chime in and give my condolences for what you're going through. As a dog owner/lover, imagining myself in your position is heavy on both my mind and soul.
I know there's a lot of knee jerk reactions in this thread, but I do think you're approaching this situation the right way and it says a lot about you as a person and as a dog owner.
You don't know what you're talking about. That you don't know the difference between obedience training and operant conditioning training makes any opinion you post pretty much useless. ANY dog can bite at ANY time if they are stressed - and you might not know what stresses them. If that thought scares you, don't bring a dog into your house. Simple solution.
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