Wellmark to leave Iowa exchange
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Like filing 4 bankruptcies responsible? That's the kind of personal responsibility you like? Lol. I don't think you understand what it means.
Every year! My premiums went down when I joined the market place. But I've always been self employed, so I never got a group rate or employer added benefits.
Link to where I said that's responsible. Trump is awful. Doesn't automatically mean the other side is right.
yes, Look at what happened in Iowa. If I remember you are in insurance.. if that's the case then yes the government is much better.
yes i am in insurance. No the feds are not doing better than iowa who privatized medicaid, no no
It's not in my wheelhouse. My best guess would be a combination of these 3: illegal immigrants that can't pay, medical malpractice lawsuits and greedy insurance providers.
Not just illegal immigrants but out of work or poorer Americans. The underemployment factor has been huge. Also, healthcare is the ultimate sellers market in some categories. Plus, we are an affluent nation with a sedentary lifestyle and easy choices. This is becoming increasingly evident in our obesity rate and the afflictions associated with that and affluence.
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I just ran across this. http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/03/health/prescription-drug-prices-public-opinion/index.html
State and fed governments can drive costs up with massive regulations
And now you can add to that a lack of choices in carriers for individual policies. That's not focusing on Wellmark. It's been a trend for the past several years as the carriers bail from the exchange.
No, the free market got tangled up by Government promises and here you go. It doesn't take rocket science to see that the second government got involved with heatlhcare, that it suddenly went belly up. This was happening even before ACA.
It makes a lot of difference to others. You've been arguing against ACA this entire thread and you didn't even realize it.
Why are you standing up for it? Even many far left types realize that it sucks.
Doesn't make me happy, just makes me right. Almost everyone not a lap dog Donkeycrat knows you don't get more and pay less. It's so simple even I knew it.
Um, despite the GOP's best attempts to sabotage Obamacare, they haven't actually done anything yet, so they can hardly be blamed for the collapse.
As for premium increases, there's no way to compare Obamacare increases to pre-Obamacare because deductibles have increased dramatically, and because premiums of exchange providers have been artificially low, resulting in losses to the providers. The latter is due to the belief of the providers they would be reimbursed for their losses. Had they charged enough to make a profit, Obamacare premiums would have been much higher.
This and it also goes against personal and capitalistic freedoms. What could be bad about a policy you are forced to partake in or you are fined, and that is controlled by the government picking and choosing the rules.
It is basically liberal thinking in a nutshell and it is fun to watch it explode. The sooner it does, the quicker we can ALL start working towards a real solution. The GOP doesnt get off free here. They screwed up the last 8 years putting together a giant pile of dog crap just to save face. They didnt put any real work into it.
The point is everyone knew Obamacare was a failed initiative to begin with and nothing was done. You had to force and mandate it to get it off the ground. That alone should tell you something
Exactly. The ACA is done. The dems failed. Liberals are terrible people. We get it.
So, what is the right's answer? They had 8 years to figure it out. 8 years. Plus, Trump ran partly on having the "best healthcare plan ever". Where is it?
Funny how the shift blames from one to the other based upon who is writing... It was Bush's fault all throughout the Obama's 8 years (except for the "good stuff" whatever that was). How does blame skip a generation and that generation created the damn thing?!
How long did it take for Obama to get the ACA drummed up and rammed through? Do you wish for the folks to be harmed as well? You seem to be in a hurry to broom folks off the cliff (forgetting there are others behind you with a bigger broom).
they only had since january to figure out replacement, for 8 years it's been about repeal
Before the ACA, people complained about the uninsured clogging up the Emergency Rooms and those costs being passed along to everyone else and driving up premiums...now for some reason that's what Republicans would like to see again.
I'm in no hurry. Trump specifically stated he had the best healthcare plan ever. Did he lose it? Why hasn't he put that plan in front of Congress?
The right has had 8 years to figure out a better solution for healthcare for this country than the ACA. And, judging by how big a disaster the ACA has apparently been, that shouldn't be hard to find one. So ... where is it and if they don't have one yet, how long should we reasonably expect for that to happen?
nobody complained about this because it didn't happen in this way. Obama lied and said this happened but it did not
Who, if anyone in government, do you believe has a solid grasp of how health care works?
As did I. But it does make a difference to millions of Americans. Nice sympathy you're displaying.
