Why do you hate your fellow Americans so?
Why do you hate personal responsible so?
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Why do you hate your fellow Americans so?
10-12% increases? Sign me up!I haven't used Wellmark for 10 years. They increased my premiums by 10-12% every year in the early 2000s. Finally got sick of it. I looked at their plan when I joined the market place and it was still over priced. Probably why they have such low participation numbers.
They'll run another million dollar surplus this year and divy it up amongst the top execs again. BAU. But they aren't the reason we see skyrocketing healthcare costs! No no.
Like filing 4 bankruptcies responsible? That's the kind of personal responsibility you like? Lol. I don't think you understand what it means.Why do you hate personal responsible so?
Every year! My premiums went down when I joined the market place. But I've always been self employed, so I never got a group rate or employer added benefits.10-12% increases? Sign me up!
Like filing 4 bankruptcies responsible? That's the kind of personal responsibility you like? Lol. I don't think you understand what it means.
yes, Look at what happened in Iowa. If I remember you are in insurance.. if that's the case then yes the government is much better.you think the feds can manage risk better than an insurance company ? by robbing everyone blind of taxpayer money and redistributing it?
I haven't used Wellmark for 10 years. They increased my premiums by 10-12% every year in the early 2000s. Finally got sick of it. I looked at their plan when I joined the market place and it was still over priced. Probably why they have such low participation numbers.
They'll run another million dollar surplus this year and divy it up amongst the top execs again. BAU. But they aren't the reason we see skyrocketing healthcare costs! No no.
yes i am in insurance. No the feds are not doing better than iowa who privatized medicaid, no noyes, Look at what happened in Iowa. If I remember you are in insurance.. if that's the case then yes the government is much better.
They've been "steep" for 20 years.In your opinion, what's driving the steep rise in healthcare costs?
They've been "steep" for 20 years.
It's not in my wheelhouse. My best guess would be a combination of these 3: illegal immigrants that can't pay, medical malpractice lawsuits and greedy insurance providers.Not an answer and they're getting steeper.
It's not in my wheelhouse. My best guess would be a combination of these 3: illegal immigrants that can't pay, medical malpractice lawsuits and greedy insurance providers.
It's not in my wheelhouse. My best guess would be a combination of these 3: illegal immigrants that can't pay, medical malpractice lawsuits and greedy insurance providers.
That makes zero difference to me. I had insurance long before the ACA.And now you can add to that a lack of choices in carriers for individual policies. That's not focusing on Wellmark. It's been a trend for the past several years as the carriers bail from the exchange.
No, the free market got tangled up by Government promises and here you go. It doesn't take rocket science to see that the second government got involved with heatlhcare, that it suddenly went belly up. This was happening even before ACA.Single payer. Obama didn't go big enough. Free market failed us here.
It makes a lot of difference to others. You've been arguing against ACA this entire thread and you didn't even realize it.That makes zero difference to me. I had insurance long before the ACA.
Can you explain why this makes you so happy?
which is actually "millions payer"Single payer. Obama didn't go big enough. Free market failed us here.
Um, despite the GOP's best attempts to sabotage Obamacare, they haven't actually done anything yet, so they can hardly be blamed for the collapse.No, it's not collapsing under its own weight, it's collapsing because of Republican actions to sabotage it and their irresponsible handling of their "replacement" legislation and the uncertainty that it's engendered regarding Ryan/Trump Care. Yes, it truly is disheartening seeing wingnuts gleeful over cutting millions of Americans off from affordable health care. Ideology over responsibility for the Trumpkins and their dear leader! They own it now, and the people who will be losing their coverage will know who to blame.
because the aca was destructive, it screwed everyone so that Obama could brag about helping a few. it needs to go.
As of now, it's not the GOP's fault. However, if they don't repeal it and replace it with something that works, or at the very least, try to fix the ACA, it will be the GOP's fault, and they will pay for it in 2018 & 2020.
Probably for the same reason you get happy when Trump fails.Can you explain why this makes you so happy?
This and it also goes against personal and capitalistic freedoms. What could be bad about a policy you are forced to partake in or you are fined, and that is controlled by the government picking and choosing the rules.
It is basically liberal thinking in a nutshell and it is fun to watch it explode. The sooner it does, the quicker we can ALL start working towards a real solution. The GOP doesnt get off free here. They screwed up the last 8 years putting together a giant pile of dog crap just to save face. They didnt put any real work into it.
Funny how the shift blames from one to the other based upon who is writing... It was Bush's fault all throughout the Obama's 8 years (except for the "good stuff" whatever that was). How does blame skip a generation and that generation created the damn thing?!No, it's not collapsing under its own weight, it's collapsing because of Republican actions to sabotage it and their irresponsible handling of their "replacement" legislation and the uncertainty that it's engendered regarding Ryan/Trump Care. Yes, it truly is disheartening seeing wingnuts gleeful over cutting millions of Americans off from affordable health care. Ideology over responsibility for the Trumpkins and their dear leader! They own it now, and the people who will be losing their coverage will know who to blame.
How long did it take for Obama to get the ACA drummed up and rammed through? Do you wish for the folks to be harmed as well? You seem to be in a hurry to broom folks off the cliff (forgetting there are others behind you with a bigger broom).Exactly. The ACA is done. The dems failed. Liberals are terrible people. We get it.
So, what is the right's answer? They had 8 years to figure it out. 8 years. Plus, Trump ran partly on having the "best healthcare plan ever". Where is it?
they only had since january to figure out replacement, for 8 years it's been about repealExactly. The ACA is done. The dems failed. Liberals are terrible people. We get it.
So, what is the right's answer? They had 8 years to figure it out. 8 years. Plus, Trump ran partly on having the "best healthcare plan ever". Where is it?
How long did it take for Obama to get the ACA drummed up and rammed through? Do you wish for the folks to be harmed as well? You seem to be in a hurry to broom folks off the cliff (forgetting there are others behind you with a bigger broom).
nobody complained about this because it didn't happen in this way. Obama lied and said this happened but it did notBefore the ACA, people complained about the uninsured clogging up the Emergency Rooms and those costs being passed along to everyone else and driving up premiums...now for some reason that's what Republicans would like to see again.
Idk if Obama lied but I think it has more to do with him just not having a fundamental grasp or understanding of how health care works.
The point is everyone knew Obamacare was a failed initiative to begin with and nothing was done. You had to force and mandate it to get it off the ground. That alone should tell you something
I don't. Do you have a serious answer?Probably for the same reason you get happy when Trump fails.
That makes zero difference to me. I had insurance long before the ACA.
If you truly believe this: how can you not be for a public option in addition to a private option?That cap is killer. There was a story how Wellmark (or one of the Iowa insurers) last year had one patient that was responsible for a majority of the rate increase that everyone experienced.
Insurance is a risk management tool however the insurance company also needs to reasonably manage their risk as well, it is why we need death panels if we ever get serious about lowering cost of care. Because outside of technology driving costs down this is probably the only other way to do it.