Nobody likes it. I think there’s absolutely things Tom should be doing to improve our team (better coaches, more effective training/scrambling, better recovery, better recruiting). I don’t think he should get extended for another contract, and I want the best candidate possible for this position in 2029 not just appointing Spencer. If Spencer’s senior level career consists of multiple world gold medals and an Olympic gold I would be all for him becoming the head coach.
Welp….
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I wasn't getting at anything, just getting the facts straight. Of course, everyone already knows where I stand.
I don't see a whole lot of people leaving their school to follow a 1 year coach because they don't want to wrestle for Taylor. The only turnover they might have is guys leaving after getting bumped out of a spot with the talent Taylor will be landing.
If our administration wants to do nothing and Tom is happy leading the program into further irrelevance then I guess it is what it is.
And guys that don't want to live the life
I see our recruiting lagging and I see our coaching ability lagging, Tom doesn’t seem willing to make the changes needed to move the team forward. That’s what frustrates me when I see the Pokes making a move.
Can someone remind me what the definition of insanity is? I'm pretty sure Ok St knows.
Start with breathing in and then out. If you can do that without difficulty, you are selling yourself way short. Appealing to a broader audience is pretty much on par in difficulty level….
Scott got ****ed, and we are ****ed. They were doing better in recruiting than they have in years before bringing in a big PSU name . If there was any doubt about Forrest going to okst, that should be a done deal now. Maybe he will even pull Basset away from PSU and tOSU. Right now we are fighting with Cornell and Michigan to be the 4th best team from here on out, with okst being 2 or 1 with PSU, and tOSU should be 3 with all the talent they keep accumulating. Hard to believe Scott left a pretty good head job to be an assistant at his almamater with an old coach about to retire, if wasn’t sure he was the head coach in waiting. Will Taylor keep him for now, just to lock in some recruits who he probably played a big part in recruiting? The only way this was a good move by Scott is if they told him he was out, to make room for Koll to come back.
The writing became apparent to me when:
- Iowa refused to schedule PSU in State College when the two schools did not have an in conference dual, after PSU had visited Carver.
- Iowa refused to follow the previously agreed to National Duals pairings and face Virginia Tech.
I expect Ok St could annually schedule PSU. I wouldn't be surprised if that dual replaced Iowa on their schedule. That would be another blow to Iowa prestige and the Gable legacy.
You do know that stretch objectives literally have nothing actually to do with yoga, don't you?
That, and extremely loyal. OkSt just ****ed over one of their own to get ahead, but when TnT retire, the administration will have a hard decision weather to hire Telford or M star.
Difficulty level being the key part of my response should have easily answered that question, but we already agreed that you aren’t very perceptive…
But my audience may have been reduced by a TT campaign to put me on mass ignore, so of course I have to cater to my faithful constituency (@el dub and @Is_there_vodka_in_heaven among it).
I'd rather look at a yoga class stretching than my bonus kpi's full of stretch objectives.
Maybe you shouldn't have counted on my fullest "reading comprehension."
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Might I suggest you hone your skills in the managerial dark arts of 1) sandbagging and 2) redefining success.
I suspect you will love retirement.
Are you kidding? I already retired twice. I'm on my third venture. Retirement is actually waay too boring.
Not to fear. Everyone around here knows I'm not very perceptive.
Make no mistake, there are very few on here I count on to have any, even if it is their “fullest”.
So I've read. That's okay. You'll never be as perceptive as MSU. He is a dog that won't let go of the bone. Ever.
Hey, Hey - no reason to insult the innocent bystanders. Plus, just like the tough guy finding out there is always someone tougher.........
On here, that is a pretty fair assessment. In "real life", not so much. My 9 year old OWNS ME in that department. If I have ever won anything against her, she has yet to let me know!
I will never understand the “Cael is unbeatable so why change things” mentality. Even if that was true, it’s not like Iowa is the clear 2nd place every year. There are holes all over the roster, recruiting seems to be trailing off, and in general the program lacks any excitement around it. Not a rosy picture of the future
It more about having a big name to get a stable of the best recruits in the country, than it is their style. Our more recent recruits do not wrestle TnT relentless offensive style. They seem more like M Starr.
Only hope is Kyle Snyder.
Taylor off the board means we ride the TnT wave for the next quad at least and hope they either turn it around or Snyder looks at Iowa when he hangs it up. (Which Snyder could easily go another quad after Paris)
So maybe 8 years.
Burroughs doesn’t want to coach.
Dake could be a John smith. All the accolades but may have a hard time getting kids to follow his monk like lifestyle.
On the market right now, Nobody else is a David Taylor as far as coaching prospects to lead a legacy program.
Taylor off the board means we ride the TnT wave for the next quad at least and hope they either turn it around or Snyder looks at Iowa when he hangs it up. (Which Snyder could easily go another quad after Paris)
So maybe 8 years.
Burroughs doesn’t want to coach.
Dake could be a John smith. All the accolades but may have a hard time getting kids to follow his monk like lifestyle.
On the market right now, Nobody else is a David Taylor as far as coaching prospects to lead a legacy program.
Gable had minimal experience . Tom had 1 year head coach experience, which was more than Gable. They turned out ok. The key for OKST was convincing Smith to step down so they didn’t have to fire him to make room for the next generation.
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The more this dude talks the more he proves he's a ****ing idiot.
I’m sure this is the long term plan for both parties. Learn the ropes at OkSt, then back to PSU as veteran coach to keep the dynasty rolling.
Askren would rather have bamboo shoved under his nails than be an Iowa assistant. On Flo he said he and his brother are planning on putting more time into growing their club, and also starting an RTC for senior level guys, which should further hurt HWC with the close proximity.
Your move Tom, doing nothing is not an option. Drive on down to Coleman’s house and personally bring him back. He may not be a “savior” but he sure as shit was a big reason Okie st made strides recently.
David will be able to fly his newly acquired jet to recruit if need be. The only downfall is the farmland isn't nearly as valuable as Iowas. He will have to buy hay for his cattle herd.
Coleman Scott should be proud of his time at OSU. The improvement in that program since he joined was noticable, and they were poised to move forward again before DT joined. I think DT was the right hire, but Coleman Scott's stock has risen as well.
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