When MAGA LOSES THIS ELECTION

[SB_SB]

if she wins we no longer have money-economy. gasoline. freedom.

I thought you rode a bicycle, so you should be good.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

if she wins we no longer have money-economy. gasoline. freedom.

Holy hyperbole. Do you really believe that? If so then your money is worthless if she wins so maybe you would consider a wager with it.

I will bet you $100,000 of my money against $10,000 of yours that if Kamala wins that in four years there will still be gasoline for your car, there will still be money to spend and your daily life won’t have changed in terms of your normal freedoms (speech, 2A, etc).

Care to bet?

 

[Speedway1]

I genuinely hope we can come together as a country. It should be obvious to see MAGA has been pushing us vs them, toxic culture.

There will always be differences in beliefs and that’s ok. The Right needs to remove MAGA to move forward. If you can’t see that now, I’m not sure there is any hope for you.

Good luck with that. She is no uniter. The Marxist hell she would release on us will be mind boggling. Let alone get us nuked.

 

[Gus is dead]

The fact you view Vance as a viable option just tells me that people like you will always fall for the extreme candidate with crazy ideas.

Did you watch the Rogan episode? He is not in the least crazy. Please list the things he has said lately that deems him so,.

As we all have learned from Kamala, one's positions in the past have no relevance to today. Keep that in mind. I have zero receptiveness to some report of something he said in 2020 in light of the new standard Kamala has introduced us to.

I love the DEI comment, let me guess you're a guy who can't handle a female with power.

Not at all. I'm married. My wife has plenty of power. Let alone I work with as many females in my position as males so I have no issue that way.

I do take issue with people that pretend to know what they do not. Hence my dislike for Kamala.

 

[Tom Paris]

That is an interesting question.

Personally, I think Trump is a uniquely vile, horrendous, criminal, racist piece of shit and has justifiably been called out for that.

If (and it's a big if) the GOP can get back to running normal human beings as candidates, I believe we will see the rhetoric drastically decrease in intensity.

He is wrong more and more often by the year. Now he's projecting his party's crap onto democrats. You're right. He's wrong and will never own it. I don't think the real Republican Party will recapture itself in my lifetime and that concerns me. Even democrats think we need a valid conservative voice in politics.

 

[WSC72]

We are talking verifiable facts here though. They refuse. They just scream fake news! Why should I respect the opinion of someone who won't accept basic facts or respect legitimate sources of information and run to their safe spaces of fox News etc to confirm what they want the world to be? You can't have an opinion on basic facts. Well you can you can have incorrect opinions. But for some reason MAGA would rather be wrong and have incorrect opinions about basic facts rather than change their views and accept basic facts. How do you engage with that? I'm genuinely asking

I get that Nelly02 and thank you for working to clarify that. Personally, I try to look at various media sources to try to get an accurate picture of what is happening. But that can get frustrating because most media has some bias and you rarely get an accurate depiction with correct context. I tend not to pay much attention to the fringes, people or media, on either side. I don't think the country will end no matter who wins this election. There are too many things in place to prevent that.

Engaging with people who are fanatics, who only listen to respond rather than understand? Might be a waste of time. But, that's just my opinion, I am sure it can be done, I just don't think it is worth the time for me. I think most people flock to what confirms their beliefs, politics, religion, person beliefs, etc. It's just human nature. Maybe a good question to ask here is: Why bother engaging? It typically evolves into middle school maturity arguments.

What % of Republicans would be considered MAGA? I have no idea. For whatever life experiences they have had they have made their choices on what to believe. I actually talked to a 'moon landing denier' this morning. I let him explain why he felt that way and he actually had some interesting information. I never really presented what I felt because in the big picture what does it matter to me if he believes that or not?

I would classify as a Republican, but have voted for candidates of a different party in my decades of voting.

Can I ask you a question about your thoughts on increasing the number of Supreme Court Justices? Thanks again for the question, and how you asked it.

 

[SB_SB]

OiT was basically a celebrity on here for several years becuase of his conspiracy theories and absurd claims. He owned the market and everyone got a kick out of it. Since MAGA came on the scene? He's a nobody and none of his chatter is acknowledged because he seems normal.

This is the real scary part of all of this. Crazy is the new normal for republicans.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Holy hyperbole. Do you really believe that? If so then your money is worthless if she wins so maybe you would consider a wager with it.

I will bet you $100,000 of my money against $10,000 of yours that if Kamala wins that in four years there will still be gasoline for your car, there will still be money to spend and your daily life won’t have changed in terms of your normal freedoms (speech, 2A, etc).

Care to bet?

yes I 100% believe it. biden had the worst economy ever and the highest inflation. she said she sees nothing that needs to be changed. and they keep pushing anti-gasoline stuff and pushing electric cars

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

After the assassination attempt, I had a MAGA tell me the country was three inches away from complete chaos. I replied, no. We were three inches away from normalcy in the political arena.

I don't think Trump being assassinated would have brought "normalcy".

 

[Gus is dead]

Because there was nothing substantive to respond to.

The quoted part is where I stopped reading.

I don’t engage absurd equivalencies or false dichotomies, which is all your first response had to offer, because I no longer validate inane drivel/stupid shit from the MAGA idiot brigade.

We’re done.

Good for you, at least you can see when you are out classed. I respect that at least.

This what is wrong with the left. Everyone's stupid.......

As I said, I have no idea who's winning Tuesday but you and a few others better come to terms with the fact it may be Trump.

 

[Mikefontenot27]

I genuinely hope we can come together as a country. It should be obvious to see MAGA has been pushing us vs them, toxic culture.

There will always be differences in beliefs and that’s ok. The Right needs to remove MAGA to move forward. If you can’t see that now, I’m not sure there is any hope for you.

You are correct sir. Find middle ground and celebrate differences amicably and thru positive dialogue. No reason for the name calling and divisive rhetoric. I say this as a republican hoping for change.

 

[SB_SB]

Did you watch the Rogan episode? He is not in the least crazy. Please list the things he has said lately that deems him so,.

As we all have learned from Kamala, one's positions in the past have no relevance to today. Keep that in mind. I have zero receptiveness to some report of something he said in 2020 in light of the new standard Kamala has introduced us to.

Not at all. I'm married. My wife has plenty of power. Let alone I work with as many females in my position as males so I have no issue that way.

I do take issue with people that pretend to know what they do not. Hence my dislike for Kamala.

I love the defense, "I can't be a male chauvinist, I'm married and work with females". Let me guess, you can't be racist because you work with a black guy.

I'm not surprised you like vance, he has the same views on women as you do.

 

[Tom Paris]

Brother, you are hyper partisan. I'm not. Anyone on here that follows politics and is even slightly objective knows I lean center-right pretty strongly but am not particularly partisan. I'm not MAGA.

Everyone know you are hyper-partisan. You haven't had an actual conversation in this site in the years I've been here.

Criticism coming from a hyper-partisan doesn't bother me at all. You are the most predictable animal in the world. Pavlov's dog. Dull as could be. Daily marching orders from MSNBC, everyone knows your position on EVERYTHING. No original thoughts, just a partly line, a mind closed to everything and lapping up every falsehood from your side. You still believe in Russian collusion, you still believe that Rebecah Jones is a heroic whistleblower that caught DeSantis faking Covid numbers, you still believe the Hunter laptop is disinformation.

@artradley might lean left or Democrat and we probably agree on few things, but that's someone who is not hyper-partisan, whose thoughts are interesting to read, even if I disagree, or frankly even if they insult me.

God bless you, I hope you find peace with the election.

You are completely wrong about me. I WAS a registered Republican. I'm just not falling for MAGA and Fox crap.

All I ask is for you to prove me wrong. I have said before I don't need to listen to the Rachel Maddows, I listened to ACTUAL REPUBLICANS who have lost their party. I listen to generals. I'm not listening to the MAGA guys on this board. They are basically full of shit on everything. I'm not listening to the both sides bins and faultys of the board. They are wrong about basically everything political.20 years ago, I get it. But not today. Not in 2024 as long as the MAGA movement is kicking and a solid third of our government cow tows to a conman. Sorry if you don't like that.

You're projecting the MAGA cult - not saying you're one of them because I don't believe it - onto me and it's just not valid. I stand by my response to what you said. I don't believe I called you MAGA. If I did I was wrong.

I will find peace when half my country is no longer being brainwashed by people who lead back to Putin. Again, prove me wrong and I will shut up about it. Prove to me Project 2025 isn't what we say it is and I'll shut up about it.

edit to say - SEE and here is a perfect example. READ THE MUELLER REPORT. Don't give me shit about Russian Collusion when we know there was some. Hell, I literally watched Trump, LIVE, call on Russia to find Hillary's emails. 30,000 of them. It's amazing how any of you guys can take Trump's word on ANYTHING. Be better and use logic.

 

[torbee]

Good luck with that. She is no uniter. The Marxist hell she would release on us will be mind boggling. Let alone get us nuked.

The fact you believe a standard issue liberal democrat is a Marxist proves you aren’t worthy of having a rational discussion with.

You are part of the problem by refusing to live in objective reality.

 

[Tom Paris]

If Trump were to win, do you genuinely hope that the country can come together or only if Kamala wins? If your goal is unity ONLY if one candidate wins, that doesn’t make sense.
It’s like saying if the Hawkeyes win the national championship , I hope ISU fans will join us and leave their crappy program.

While I agree with the sentiment and what you’re saying, I believe everyone wants unity and to come together as one. I still have faith in humanity. However, I don’t see that happening under Trump because the anti-trumps won’t let that happen, nor will the media.

Do you ever ACTUALLY LISTEN to what Trump says???? He threatens human beings who don't agree with him or who he doesn't like over and over again. He has ZERO plan on being a president for all of us. Biden HAS BEEN. Kamala WILL BE. Sadly, millions of Republican voters will continue to vote against their own interests because some guy wants to be a girl. Biden asked a few years ago to Republicans, "What are you for?" The only answer I can find to that is making the rich wealthy, and power. That's it. Prove me wrong. Show me their votes to back it up, because their votes are almost never FOR bringing down costs for everyday Americans.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Honestly, why does what two people do in private impact you in any way? No one is saying you have to watch them, they aren’t hurting you. They aren’t stealing your paycheck. They are democrats and Republicans. They are athletes and firefighters. Every 10th person you interact with is gay and you don’t even know it.

Why does it matter so much to you?

The same could be said about a person who does the same with a non human animal that he/she lawfully purchased. It is a social taboo and just a flat out vile and disgusting act. And 10% is not even close enough to consider something “normal”.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I don't think Trump being assassinated would have brought "normalcy".

Maybe not but any movement away from MAGA is a move towards normalcy.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

The same could be said about a person who does the same with a non human animal that he/she lawfully purchased. It is a social taboo and just a flat out vile and disgusting act. And 10% is not even close enough to consider something “normal”.

No. An animal doesn’t have a say in that matter. That is animal abuse. We are talking about two consenting adults. They have agency, an animal does not.

As to it being disgusting - you don’t have to watch it. You don’t have to think about it (although clearly you do 🤔). It IS NOT impacting you in any way. Hell, I find leggings and crop tops on the fatties at Wal Mart disgusting and that is actually something I have to see if I shop there. But I support their freedom to wear them.

I find your holier than thou morality disgusting, but I will defend your right to have your dumbass opinion because that is what it means to live in a democracy. The fact you cannot do the same for your fellow humans is sad, small, and quite frankly un-American.

 

[goldmom]

Maybe not but any movement away from MAGA is a move towards normalcy.

So you would have been okay with a successful
attempted assassination?
Wow. And you’d consider it normalcy?
I’m honestly astonished at anyone from any political position who would think that was okay.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

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I love these maps.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

No. An animal doesn’t have a say in that matter. That is animal abuse. We are talking about two consenting adults. They have agency, an animal does not.

As to it being disgusting - you don’t have to watch it. You don’t have to think about it (although clearly you do 🤔). It IS NOT impacting you in any way. Hell, I find leggings and crop tops on the fatties at Wal Mart disgusting and that is actually something I have to see if I shop there.

I find your holier than thou morality disgusting, but I will defend your right to have your dumbass opinion because that is what it means to live in a democracy. The fact you cannot do the same for your fellow humans is sad, small, and quite frankly un-American.

An animal also doesn’t have a say in whether its fur gets sheared off, whether it’s forced to pull a wagon, or whether it’s slaughtered to be eaten, and yet it all happens legally. Your analogy fails big time. Bestiality is illegal not because of any rights of the animal, but because that sort of behavior by humans is deemed vile and abominable, just like sodomy.

 

[Tom Paris]

So you would have been okay with a successful
attempted assassination?
Wow. And you’d consider it normalcy?
I’m honestly astonished at anyone from any political position who would think that was okay.

Oh, c'mon! That's a HUGE jump.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

An animal also doesn’t have a say in whether its fur gets sheared off, whether it’s forced to pull a wagon, or whether it’s slaughtered to be eaten, and yet it all happens legally. Your analogy fails big time. Bestiality is illegal not because of any rights of the animal, but because that sort of behavior by humans is deemed vile and abominable, just like sodomy.

Ah, sorry I didn’t realize…that you are too dumb to argue with. Animal abuse is actually a matter of law. We are allowed to slaughter a cow, we are not allowed to inflict pain or other abuse upon it.

In any event, thankfully our country has (for the most part) decided that gay people have the same rights as everyone else. If you don’t like it then maybe you should move to Russia or North Korea…you know, the places where they take away those rights.

I will leave you to your bigotry in peace.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Maybe not but any movement away from MAGA is a move towards normalcy.

I agree with that but Trump getting assassinated wouldn't do that...if anything it'd make him a martyr.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

I agree with that but Trump getting assassinated wouldn't do that...if anything it'd make him a martyr.

Yep, if Trump had died that would have been the worst thing that could have happened to our country for many reasons. It is far better to just beat him in the polling booth or allow him to self immolate with his criminal behavior.

 

[Tom Paris]

I agree with that but Trump getting assassinated wouldn't do that...if anything it'd make him a martyr.

Trump's a fan of assassinations...just not his...Liz is fine though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/01/cheney-trump-firing-squad-threats-are-how-dictators-destroy-free-nations-00186707

 

[Gus is dead]

I love the defense, "I can't be a male chauvinist, I'm married and work with females". Let me guess, you can't be racist because you work with a black guy.

I'm not surprised you like vance, he has the same views on women as you do.

Please quote Vance's crazy ideas or thoughts on women. Something in the last 1-2 years please.

I dont work with any black men no. Lots of men and women of Indian decent though.

 

[Gus is dead]

Trump's a fan of assassinations...just not his...Liz is fine though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/01/cheney-trump-firing-squad-threats-are-how-dictators-destroy-free-nations-00186707

This was NOT a firing squad reference. He said give her a gun and face down 9 other guns since she likes war so much,

The only connection to a firing squad was the number he chose. No firing squad faces the executee that also has a gun. Sorry. Trying too hard to turn the tables on Biden's 'garbage' slip of the tongue.

 

[mattymoknows]

I think the playbook for the Dems has permanently changed but we'll see.

 

[mattymoknows]

Honestly, why does what two people do in private impact you in any way? No one is saying you have to watch them, they aren’t hurting you. They aren’t stealing your paycheck. They are democrats and Republicans. They are athletes and firefighters. Every 10th person you interact with is gay and you don’t even know it.

Why does it matter so much to you?

Interesting that this loser handle @soonerinlOUisiana just started posting a ton within the past month or so.

Just another sh!t ass propagandist like @Scruddy Easy ignore, that one.

 

[Scruddy]

Interesting that this loser handle @soonerinlOUisiana just started posting a ton within the past month or so.

Just another sh!t ass propagandist like @Scruddy Easy ignore, that one.

Huh? I don't care how much dick you suck, matt so I'm not sure why you're begging for my attention. Normalizing chicks with dicks is weird af but as far as the comment you're responding to I don't disagree with what that poster said in general.

 

[RNHawk]

Trump's a fan of assassinations...just not his...Liz is fine though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/01/cheney-trump-firing-squad-threats-are-how-dictators-destroy-free-nations-00186707

What a perfect example of the left and the media fanning the flames. SMH

 

[Tom Paris]

What a perfect example of the left and the media fanning the flames. SMH

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You didn't vote for him a third time but here you are defending the disgusting PoS.

 

[RNHawk]

You didn't vote for him a third time but here you are defending the disgusting PoS.

No I am calling out the BS over reaction from people like you and the media. Some of you who hate the maga cult need to look in the mirror because your inability to think for yourselves rather than falling for what the media says is one of the prime factors for being in a cult

 

[Jimmy McGill]

No I am calling out the BS over reaction from people like you and the media. Some of you who hate the maga cult need to look in the mirror because your inability to think for yourselves rather than falling for what the media says is one of the prime factors for being in a cult

We will have to agree to disagree. The left's dissatisfaction is directly correlated to what Trump has said and done.

Trump has normalized racism on the right. It is dangerous.

 

[mattymoknows]

Huh? I don't care how much dick you suck, matt so I'm not sure why you're begging for my attention. Normalizing chicks with dicks is weird af but as far as the comment you're responding to I don't disagree with what that poster said in general.

Begging for your attention? 🤣 Nope, just have to keep pointing out what a little bitch propagandist that you are.

 

[srams21]

This was NOT a firing squad reference. He said give her a gun and face down 9 other guns since she likes war so much,

The only connection to a firing squad was the number he chose. No firing squad faces the executee that also has a gun. Sorry. Trying too hard to turn the tables on Biden's 'garbage' slip of the tongue.

What do you think would happen if 1 person has a gun against 9 others who do as well? This isn't the movies. That would basically be an execution. And we have a former President and potential future President talking that way.

 

[srams21]

We will have to agree to disagree. The left's dissatisfaction is directly correlated to what Trump has said and done.

Trump has normalized racism on the right. It is dangerous.

This. It's almost like some of these people have forgotten how Presidential candidates and Presidents spoke before Trump came along. HE is the one who started this by talking like a moron and insulting people left and right with juvenile behavior. Of course, the reaction was going to be what it was and is.

Trump is a bully.

 

[WSC72]

What do you think would happen if 1 person has a gun against 9 others who do as well? This isn't the movies. That would basically be an execution. And we have a former President and potential future President talking that way.

 

[SB_SB]

Please quote Vance's crazy ideas or thoughts on women. Something in the last 1-2 years please.

I dont work with any black men no. Lots of men and women of Indian decent though.

His comments about Women And Gay men running the country when not having children. What about white men with kids, I guess he’s ok with that.

I know you like to think you’re not biased, but to a normal person it stands out.