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Which 2 teams is the Big 10 looking to add right now and go to a 4 division conference?

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Would Iowa State want to join the Big 10. Pitt or Syracuse? Pitt brings a top medical school and science research area. Clemson or one of the Carolina teams?

As I and a few others have said, a 20 team league with four 5 team divisions will set up two semifinal games ahead of the Big Champ game. That is more money for Iowa even if they do not participate. Four divisions also leave a lot more teams in the hunt later in the season for a division title and the league title.

I am sure the Big offices are looking at this.

Which teams joining make the most sense?
 
The only team the big ten would even consider from the big 12 is Colorado - restores the Nebraska and Colorado rivalry. But even that is pretty doubtful.

Maybe ND if there is a year they finally get screwed and left out of the playoffs due to not being in a conference but they seem to be more willing to go to the ACC where they know they’ll have it easier.

My top two picks would be FSU to get into Florida and ND (which won’t happen) so I’ll go with Colorado as of now. Getting into Texas would be nice but big meh for all the Texas teams unless somehow could talk the Aggies to leaving the SEC which is highly unlikely.

A colorsdo/nebraska/iowa/Wisconsin or Minnesota division would be fun.
 
The only team the big ten would even consider from the big 12 is Colorado - restores the Nebraska and Colorado rivalry. But even that is pretty doubtful.

Maybe ND if there is a year they finally get screwed and left out of the playoffs due to not being in a conference but they seem to be more willing to go to the ACC where they know they’ll have it easier.

My top two picks would be FSU to get into Florida and ND (which won’t happen) so I’ll go with Colorado as of now. Getting into Texas would be nice but big meh for all the Texas teams unless somehow could talk the Aggies to leaving the SEC which is highly unlikely.

A colorsdo/nebraska/iowa/Wisconsin or Minnesota division would be fun.
Notre Dame should be locked out of this conference for eternity.
 
Add 6 and go to 4 six team divisions.

Stanford
Cal
Oregon
Washington
Ucla
USC

Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Notre Dame

Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Purdue
Illinois
Indiana

Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
Florida State
North Carolina
Georgia Tech

10 game conference schedule with a final 4 tournament with each division winner to determine the conference champion.

May as well just go all in at this point.
 
As mentioned earlier, Florida and Texas primarily, but really just the South/Southeast in general. It's all about a footprint and not necessarily the schools themselves. See Rutgers. Getting into SEC territory is the last piece of the nationwide puzzle. And then in 20 years it will split again into something resembling the original conferences after it all gets too costly being a pro football league and being unable to compete with the actual pro football league.
 
Would ISU want to join?

Nope. They’re not interested.

In related news, Ukraine is not interested in joining NATO.
[actually they have already inquired about joining not once but twice, the last time the Iowa president recused themselves from the vote and this seemed to perturb a few ISU people.
if looking for teams to join in the future look at tv ratings, that is where the money is to improve your brand--look at last nite--the big 12 game of the week for nighttime was probably the 4th highest watched game of the time slot and there were earlier games that drew more viewers so their game of the week was maybe 5-9 in viership--why would you want any of those teams in your conference...
 
Notre Dame will eventually now that their best buddy USC is also in the Big Ten.

The question is who else does the Big Ten want to swallow their pride for and offer a spot?

Stanford would be the most logical, but they'd a few years down the road still with their ACC deal. It's also not like they feel compelled to stay in the same conference as California to maintain their rivalry, which is nice compared to some of the other idiotic f***ing programs out there..............

The others would be darts at the wall and then manufacturing reasons why they're the best fit.

Go down the list:
Pittsburgh- proximity, natural rivalries

Boston College- proximity, major northeast market

Syracuse- proximity, natural rivalries, having an ACTUAL f***ing NY team in the conference

North Carolina- major brand and good market moreso for basketball

Duke- Big name basketball brand and academics, think of them as a more athletic Rutgers........and would you trade Rutgers for Duke right now?

Virginia- good east coast market, competitive athletics brand, natural rivalry with Maryland (basically could throw VT in here as well)

Clemson- probably not gonna be an individual choice, unless sh** gets messier than an episode of Jerry Springer, in the ACC

Florida State- that ship has probably sailed, but the door is always open......also see Clemson

Miami- ahhh, now we're getting somewhere. Miami is still a sneaky surprise pick because not only is it a major market, but it unlocks the south to the Big Ten, particularly in one of their prime locations, plus you get all the prime time matchups and narratives with just about any current B10 team that faces Miami (along with Notre Dame potentially), even with all their struggles on the football field recently. Plus I don't think it would be THAT much of a hard sell to convince Miami to jump ship for the B10.

Darts in the ceiling:
Connecticut- if the B10 was really desperate, they could go with a big brand in the northeast in UConn, who has had a little bit of a resurgence on the football field this year, going 8-4. Not to mention you'd be getting one of the best men's/women's basketball programs in the country, AND you could set up shop right across the street from good ole ESPN HQ for the ultimate troll job 😉

Iowa State- now hear me out...............bawwwhahaha who are we kidding. F*** Iowa State

West Virginia- proximity, natural rivalries, plus they might be tired of traipsing across the country to play mid level Big 12 teams when they could enter a conference with a slightly more natural fit

California- if the B10 can't land Stanford, then Cal might not be a terrible second option to add more of a presence for our west coast teams, particularly if 5 team divisions are something they want to explore at least for scheduling purposes

Missouri- F*** it. Swing big and steal Missouri from the SEC and let them steal Oklahoma State from the Big 12 or Clemson/FSU from the ACC and we can have true domino collapsing chaos in CFB :D
 
Did what?
We won. We're better than Iowa State overall at everything. You can let it go.

And since you're confused, I'll illuminate. You're worried about the future......I can see the future.........and I'm telling you that in the future, Iowa is still > Iowa State.

Therefore, we won.

Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise, now. You're welcome. :)
 
We won. We're better than Iowa State overall at everything. You can let it go.

And since you're confused, I'll illuminate. You're worried about the future......I can see the future.........and I'm telling you that in the future, Iowa is still > Iowa State.

Therefore, we won.

Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise, now. You're welcome. :)

We didn’t though, we lost to Iowa St.
 
What is the benefit of more expansion?

Not many TV markets left.

Four divisions so you could argue for a shit big ten west type division to help Iowa get in playoff?

Expansion was already too much. If you can’t play everybody in your conference it’s too big. Should have something closer to 12 conferences and all winners advance to playoff.
 
it won't happen because they add no value. Nor would Kansas, Kansas St. Utah, Oklahoma St Nor would Iowa if the situation was reversed.

Iowa has a better chance of getting kicked out of the B1G than Iowa St has of joining it.

There is literally nobody outside the SEC that would be additive to the Big 10 pie.

If there are any additions it would for other reasons than revenue.
 
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The answer is what it has always been. The last two teams are Notre Dame and whichever team can convince Notre Dame to join the Big 10. There are no other options.
 
There is literally nobody outside the SEC that would be additive to the Big 10 pie.
Pitt would be a good addition as they are in a big population area right there with a big rival PSU. I am not sure how big their alumni and big time fans make up but playing Big 10 games brings eyeballs.
 
What is the benefit of more expansion?

Not many TV markets left.

Four divisions so you could argue for a shit big ten west type division to help Iowa get in playoff?

Expansion was already too much. If you can’t play everybody in your conference it’s too big. Should have something closer to 12 conferences and all winners advance to playoff.
Have you forgotten about Europe?

;)
 
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[actually they have already inquired about joining not once but twice, the last time the Iowa president recused themselves from the vote and this seemed to perturb a few ISU people.
if looking for teams to join in the future look at tv ratings, that is where the money is to improve your brand--look at last nite--the big 12 game of the week for nighttime was probably the 4th highest watched game of the time slot and there were earlier games that drew more viewers so their game of the week was maybe 5-9 in viership--why would you want any of those teams in your conference...
Bob, ISU has no interest in joining the B1G. Just like how Miami of Ohio is not interested in having Kirby Smart leave Georgia to take over their football program.
 
Second that. ND had their chance...the Big 10 ship has sailed way past their arrogance.
Yes, they have had their chance. Multiple times. Evidently there are some members on their board that really hate the Big 10. That said, it is the only school left that will add value to the Conference.. It is the only school left that will increase the TV contract value. That is the only factor that matters. Nothing else does. So Notre Dame is the only school the Big 10 will open up the doors for again.
 
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There is literally nobody outside the SEC that would be additive to the Big 10 pie.

If there are any additions it would for other reasons than revenue.
Correct. Revenue is what drives it. There will be no additions without revenue. There may be subtractions for revenue. we will see.
 
Notre Dame and North Carolina.

4 divisions:

GRIDIRON
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Notre Dame
USC

HARDWOOD
Michigan State
UNC
UCLA
Indiana
Illinois

HAWKEYE
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Purdue
Northwestern

AIR MILES
Oregon
Washington
Rutgers
Maryland
Nebraska
 
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