Who won the Walz v Vance debate?
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Walz whiffed on the China thing. Riding his bike around the neighborhood in Nebraska was humorously sad. And being friends with school shooters. Maybe they were pheasant hunting buddies?
Vance will have trouble defending his performance? You just telegraphed what the Dems have decided is their plan of attack.
Abortion shows up consistently as not in the Top 3-4 issues voters care about. 16-17%.
While I’m pro choice I’m like most voters who see high food prices, the state of the economy, global peace threatened, and domestic issues that divide us as larger issues.
Use a condom and reduce the need for abortions. Be part of the realization that your sperm and her egg don’t really need to meet up unless you want them to. Stop being influenced by emotion and take charge of your personal life.
That and as good as Vance's debate is, there will be commercials abound about January 6th and boths refusal to acknowledge Trump lost and was willing to overthrow the election. To me that was the sound bite of the night.
It was a draw up until the end when Vance refused to answer about 2020.
I also think he tried a little too slyly to put space between him and Trump. It's clear he sees a possible post MAGA world that he wants to be a part of versus working for a living.
I also think he tried a little too slyly to put space between him and Trump. It's clear he sees a possible post MAGA world that he wants to be a part of versus working for a living.
chis constantly calls people Nazi's and terrorists so he kind of brings it upon himself.
I hope he is too.
I don’t care for Trump either or the MAGA cult members, but there are plenty of people you interact with everyday, who aren’t part of the Trump cult, who will vote Trump. I don’t agree with them, but they are just normal people who are trying to pick the lesser of two evils. I’m not going to hate them for that and I will still be friends with many of them who aren’t crazy MAGA types.
There’s also a 50/50 chance Trump wins. Chishawk needs to accept that as well.
I actually agree with this for the most part.
I can see a path for him surviving politically when the Trump/Vance ticket loses.
You missed my point. I don’t disagree that it’s personal - but the person being attacked didn’t seem to invest much time refuting the claims made in those attacks. Therefore the claims seemed to take on a life of their own, and many of us would have probably reacted differently if we were the ones being attacked.
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I have to hand it to Harris, finding a VP stupider than her was a tall order, but she managed it. Kudos to the cackler.😂
He did answer is the problem. He said he has concerns about it and would love to discuss it further. The dems want the sound bites to end at Walz's "that's concerning" and the interaction didn't. Meanwhile Walz had to say "I mispoke, that's my answer" that didn't have a continuation.
Run the commercial all you want but we have seen how this plays out when dems leave our context now.
I mean, in fairness, there are some pretty crazy MAGA types, but yeah, Chishawk will go after anyone who isn’t fully on board with all of his hate.
I have made it clear from the beginning I am a moderate Republican who hates Trump. That is never good enough for him.
They are also there in case the POTUS dies or is incapacitated, and I think the Harris / Walz campaign is trying to avoid talking about this due to the specter of attacks against Biden.
Trump is 78 and clearly showing physical and mental decline. Voters should be looking at who Vance is due to the chance that Trump expires in office. Or, that he decides to bail in 2026 if the House and Senate flip decidedly against him, and he puts up some firewalls against prosecution and goes to Mar A Largo to golf full time.
I said basically a tie, but the “damning non-answer” on whether Trump lost the 2020 election was as weak as anything a politician running for major office has ever uttered in a debate. What a total pussy Vance is. Know that he’s a slimy coward when you cast your ballot for him and the rapist, MAGAts.
Democrats: Calls every GOP candidate ever stupid.
Also Democrats: *Nominates Tim Walz as VP*
LOL
Also Democrats: *Nominates Tim Walz as VP*
LOL
Why didn’t you make it so we can see who’s voting for which option?
Which goes back to why Vance is screwed with Trump. He had no choice but to refuse to answer. Trump would have had his head if he said Trump lost.
I've done that in the past but think in this case it gives a more accurate read. Folks don't have to vote along party lines.
Been criticized in the past for making votes visible...guess I can't win
So are you opposed to secret ballots in general?
Why does it even matter?
If Trump wins, last night will be considered a tea party compared to Nov. 6th if he is not still in TO.
You're free to have your opinion. A opinion I don't think a lot of women have at least.
Vance far and away and wasn't really close. Would love to see him run in 28'
The Walz China thing was one of the worst cringe things I have seen in a debate in my years of watching and listening.
The Walz China thing was one of the worst cringe things I have seen in a debate in my years of watching and listening.
I've done that in the past but think in this case it gives a more accurate read. Folks don't have to vote along party lines.
Been criticized in the past for making votes visible...guess I can't win
I voted tie.
Bins you are fine. I don't always agree with your viewpoints but you are similar to me. I have strong view points but ultimately character does come into play. I am not ashamed to say I voted for Bush. I felt he was more of the straight shooter than Gore. I feel Trump has bypassed so many red lines, I still can't fathom why 45%+ of the population will still vote for him.I've done that in the past but think in this case it gives a more accurate read. Folks don't have to vote along party lines.
Been criticized in the past for making votes visible...guess I can't win
Vance, like Pete, have a lot of experience talking in front of a camera. Much more experience than Walz. Vance definitely excelled in that aspect and it's why he looked much more polished.
It's when he tries to be a human with working class people he doesn't know what to do.
The other party is filled with sociopathic narcissist extremists. A good portion of Dems really do hate this country, its institutions, and everything it stands for. Obama articulated these feelings in his acceptance speech in 2008 and its been in overdrive ever since. That’s why.
Two things can be true.
1. Chis is right more than I care to admit. I agree with him Trump has been proven unfit for office and just several things politically.
2. Chis is an unhinged lunatic who I can call out even though I agree with him at times. My favorite is when he infers others are crazy and need to chill. Talk about a lack of self awareness.
the drunk meltdowns by Chris are one of the few reasons I still come to this cesspool
Goldmom, the attacks shouldn't have occurred in the first place, whether defended them or not. The rhetoric on here tends to go overboard. Had one individual threaten my livelihood on here because he disagreed with my political stance. We can have difference of opinion and I have disagreed with you in the past (maybe too hard on my end). Even still if Chis has a problem, hopefully he gets the help he needs, but that is for him to resolve. I never understand why people want to out people or get personal. Those are low blow tactics.
I think there's a greater than 50/50 chance Chis pushes people to vote Trump.
You know what I can admit, there is a portion of the democratic party I really disagree with. See how hard that is. The issue is, it is less than 25% of the democratic party. The republicans have 80% of the party who still support Trump who wanted to overthrow an election, so who exactly is the narcissist, a guy who still to this day can't admit he lost and had his running mate fall face flat on the question because he didn't want to face Trumps wrath?
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