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Why Not Have a Better Calendar?

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A long time ago someone pointed out that possibly the greatest religious coup in history was Christians getting the rest of the world to use a calendar based on the birth of their deity.

If we were going to revamp the calendar, what would be a good year to use as the starting point? Some have suggested something connected to atomic energy - the first splitting of the atom, or maybe the first nuclear bomb detonation. That certainly represents a big dividing line in human history.

Some connected with the French Revolution wanted the new calendar to begin with that event. Who knows, if the Revolution had survived and spread, maybe that would have happened. But wealth and aristocracy reclaimed their place.

I think an argument could be made to date the new calendar from the first manned space flight. Or maybe the first Moon landing.

If we knew with reasonable certainty when humans first appeared on this planet, that could be a good candidate for the start of the human calendar.

Of course it isn't just the start year that we might want to change. When should each individual year start? Right now it loosely coincides with the winter solstice. You can make a good argument for that. But the Romans started their pre-Julian calendar with the spring equinox. That makes sense, too. Perhaps there are some other candidates.

Basing it on a fictional character isn't necessarily a bad idea, but there are lots of other fictional calendars we could choose.

And then we can turn to how many months, weeks, and days in each unit. Assuming we want to keep such designations.

Here's one of many suggested alternatives that seems to have some merit (highlighted):

The Positivist Calendar

Auguste Comte's Positivist Calendar has 13 months of 28 days, an intercalary day at the end of each year, and another at the end of leap years. It is therefore a perennial calendar, the same every year. All the months on the Positivist Calendar have four, seven-day weeks beginning on Monday. So the days of the month always fall on the same weekday. For example, the 10th is always on Wednesday.

Although the Positivist Calendar was first published in 1849, Comte began its reckoning of years from 1789. Comte's calendar was the model for the "International Fixed Calendar," promoted by Moses Cotsworth and George Eastman in the early 20th century.

http://calendopedia.com/modern.htm

Why keep the 7-day week? Did the 7-day week derive from our dominant Abrahamic creation myth or did the myth incorporate an already-existing week of 7 days?

Why not a 5-day week? Five divides nicely into 365, 7 doesn't - hence the leap year adjustment. We could stick with 12 months if we wanted. Each with 6 weeks. Plus one free-standing week a year to party! Who wouldn't like that?
 
well, that's funny, since it is actually based on the sun, and jesus was the son of god, not god, and most historians think they got the date of his birth wrong anywho
 
Another reason for liking the International Fixed Calendar or the Positivist Calendar is that your birthday would always be on the same day every year. As would most holidays. No more wondering which day of the week Columbus Day really hits, as opposed to Columbus Monday. Assuming we'd even keep Columbus Day as a holiday.
 
A long time ago someone pointed out that possibly the greatest religious coup in history was Christians getting the rest of the world to use a calendar based on the birth of their deity.

If we were going to revamp the calendar, what would be a good year to use as the starting point? Some have suggested something connected to atomic energy - the first splitting of the atom, or maybe the first nuclear bomb detonation. That certainly represents a big dividing line in human history.

Some connected with the French Revolution wanted the new calendar to begin with that event. Who knows, if the Revolution had survived and spread, maybe that would have happened. But wealth and aristocracy reclaimed their place.

I think an argument could be made to date the new calendar from the first manned space flight. Or maybe the first Moon landing.

If we knew with reasonable certainty when humans first appeared on this planet, that could be a good candidate for the start of the human calendar.

Of course it isn't just the start year that we might want to change. When should each individual year start? Right now it loosely coincides with the winter solstice. You can make a good argument for that. But the Romans started their pre-Julian calendar with the spring equinox. That makes sense, too. Perhaps there are some other candidates.

Basing it on a fictional character isn't necessarily a bad idea, but there are lots of other fictional calendars we could choose.

And then we can turn to how many months, weeks, and days in each unit. Assuming we want to keep such designations.

Here's one of many suggested alternatives that seems to have some merit (highlighted):

The Positivist Calendar

Auguste Comte's Positivist Calendar has 13 months of 28 days, an intercalary day at the end of each year, and another at the end of leap years. It is therefore a perennial calendar, the same every year. All the months on the Positivist Calendar have four, seven-day weeks beginning on Monday. So the days of the month always fall on the same weekday. For example, the 10th is always on Wednesday.

Although the Positivist Calendar was first published in 1849, Comte began its reckoning of years from 1789. Comte's calendar was the model for the "International Fixed Calendar," promoted by Moses Cotsworth and George Eastman in the early 20th century.

http://calendopedia.com/modern.htm

Why keep the 7-day week? Did the 7-day week derive from our dominant Abrahamic creation myth or did the myth incorporate an already-existing week of 7 days?

Why not a 5-day week? Five divides nicely into 365, 7 doesn't - hence the leap year adjustment. We could stick with 12 months if we wanted. Each with 6 weeks. Plus one free-standing week a year to party! Who wouldn't like that?
Leap years aren't to adjust the days of the week. They are to adjust for the fact that the earth takes 365 and about a quarter of another day to get around the sun. If we didn't have leap years the seasons would eventually end up shifting around the calendar.
 
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Leap years aren't to adjust the days of the week. They are to adjust for the fact that the earth takes 365 and about a quarter of another day to get around the sun. If we didn't have leap years the seasons would eventually end up shifting around the calendar.
Sorry about that. Brain fart. I suspect everybody (including me) knows that, but thanks for clarifying.
 
The calendar and dating systems are two different things. If you want to set "year zero" to something other than the birth of christ (I'm not sure if you can get a much more momentous change in history) then perhaps go back to the advent of writing. You could also choose the advent of gunpowder, or the creation of the United Nations.
 
The only thing that's really Christian about the Gregorian Calendar is how the years are dated and the 7 day week. If that upsets you then just use BCE and CE instead of BC and AD and all you are left with is the 7 day week.

Many of the months are named after Roman Gods, not Christian or biblical figures.

Otherwise it works rather well. Nearly every country bases their calendar on the Gregorian Calendar. It is almost as wide spread as the metric system.
 
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Best way to improve the calendar is to add pics of big breasted women to it.
Even that could turn out wrong.
MPW-32155
 
The calendar and dating systems are two different things. If you want to set "year zero" to something other than the birth of christ (I'm not sure if you can get a much more momentous change in history) then perhaps go back to the advent of writing. You could also choose the advent of gunpowder, or the creation of the United Nations.
Also good ideas.
 
Screw you, Astronomy has changed since I left school, (Bye Pluto), Geography has changed since I left school, (Where is Yugoslavia on the map?) But if I have to start learning new dates in history for 12/7,1941, 9/11/2001, 1492, etc, I'm gonna be pissed.
 
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Another reason for liking the International Fixed Calendar or the Positivist Calendar is that your birthday would always be on the same day every year. As would most holidays. No more wondering which day of the week Columbus Day really hits, as opposed to Columbus Monday. Assuming we'd even keep Columbus Day as a holiday.

That would suck if your birthday always fell on a Tuesday or some other dead bar night. I was born on St. Patrick's Day, so whatever day it falls on, there's a party going on.
 
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At least I try to have conversations about interesting things.

The best you can do, it seems, is use your God-given talents to feel jealous and take childish pot shots.

It's childish to encourage a person to not waste their time complaining about something that will never, ever change no matter how much they complain about it? I'm doing you a service! And it's nothing personal, the same advice could be utilized by many, many fine people on this message board. If you don't like something, work to change it. If it becomes evident that it is never going to change (for instance, being able to fly like a bird, changing the Roman calendar, etc.), just accept it and move on with your day as best you can. You will feel so much better, and everyone around you will probably like you more.

And not sure where the jealous part comes in at all, but do as you will.
 
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