Will Kirk Be the Head Coach Next Year?

[BonzoFury]

Goetz noted that she had consulted with UI President Wilson, too. Who went to whom for this consultation is not stated, so the decision may have come from higher up. If so, the nepotism issue may have been just as big a concern, if not more so, than the on-field performance issues.

BG seems to know her shit. She's covered every detail perfectly. It sure will be interesting to find out (and at some point we will) how this manifested. Did donors approach BG? President Wilson? perhaps both. Or was this purely done internally and was Beth's call validated by Wilson?

Either way it seems that someone other than us "whiners" recognize that KFz's unchecked power has become a problem. It's a shame. I'd like to see the guy go out on top. He did so many great things for the program and University (esp the hospital) and gave us a lot of great moments on the field.

But once he put his kid before the team and the program...and doubled down on it, well. Again, it's a shame. and FU Gary Barta. A lot of this falls on you.

 

[kceasthawk]

I understand the sentiment, but in reality he’s still the head coach and should have full authority to make the decision for the next hire (aside from family of course). If he wants a pawn to run the offensive scheme of his choosing, honestly that’s his purgative as the coach. If the AD is not ok with that, then the move needed to be about moving on from KF - not Brian.

I don’t think the issue was about the offensive system or style though. I think it is more about lack of player development (especially QB and OL), lack of fit in recruiting, lack of play action, and telling tendencies with formations and personnel.

Side note - does Barnett get a free pass now? The OL has been well below Iowa standards and a major (if not primary) contributor.

None of this is relevant. She could do this BECAUSE of the whole farce that Brian reports to the AD. Barta put that in place, and unknowingly gave our new AD the loophole to end this torture. That aside the AD can not start shit canning other assistants,(unless there was some criminal activity). That simply can't happen. No assistant would want to sign on for that in the future. The only other place where the Axe can fall is on the HC.

 

[kceasthawk]

I think there is a good chance that,this will be a relief for Kirk and he’ll be able to really dedicate himself to coaching the way he has for 19 years before he got himself into the Brian mess. I hope has has a chance to enjoy his last years and reminds us all why he is a legendary coach.

An interesting take. We'll probably find out more tomorrow,,,,

 

[the24fan]

To me, a lot depends if this was a planned announcement, or if this was an internal meeting that was leaked (as has been rumored).

If planned, I think a major reason is to stem the avalanche of negative press Iowa was receiving on a weekly basis. Beth's #1 priority is to protect the brand and this announcement helps with that.

Her #2 priority is to give her coaches as much autonomy as possible. It is stepping on Kirk's toes to announce that his OC will not be retained, but it was necessary due to priority #1. It's full on meddling in his program to fire his OC mid-season, and creating a reputation as a meddling AD could inhibit her ability to attract top coaching talent in the future.

Oh Bullsh!t!
In no way would she be creating a problem hiring a top coach. She’s just doing what any good steward should do! Protecting the brand and setting an expectation that there are standards to be met is the way it is in every business in life. Coaches know it’s a results oriented business. KF is just lucky the former AD was a puppet with no real stones…I absolutely love the fact that Beth isn’t scared to rock the boat! Good for her.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Not so fast, OO…..Bob is done coaching unless the right opportunity comes along…..Not predicting but not saying “never” either……..He’d have to have a couple of key coaches come with him or remain and NO questions asked (and there might lie the rub). Bobby won’t have time for a lot of bullshit…..He knows he doesn’t have it even if he wants it…..He would be an interesting choice and sell a whole bunch of season tix………..

I'm not a huge fan of Bob Stoops taking the HC job, but I would 100% trust him on all of his asst. coaching hires; KF lost my trust in this quite a while ago. LW was his last solid hire.

 

[gamedayron01]

The old horse he rides de in on is being fed. It’s about to leave Iowa City with a familiar rider. Sunset is near.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Kirk's desire to coach has nothing to do with who his OC is.

Let me make this very clear and simple for everyone. If the man wants to coach, he will keep coaching. If he doesn't want to coach, he will stop coaching

 

[Macbride79]

Anyone who thinks Brian being let go has a thing to do with whether Kirk continues to coach or not is clueless

Kirk can keep coaching as a line coach for an NFL team, and he can demand that Brian be his assistant OL coach. Problem solved

 

[BigAssTurkeyLeg]

Question should be will Kirk Ferentz be the HC/OC next season and take on those duties himself.

I’d be down

 

[BetterLuckNextTime]

Because Beth is the main reason this happened

Gary Barta is the main reason this happened.

 

[blubberhawk]

I know how you feel, but he did this to himself, and I have a hard time feeling sorry for a gagillionaire who has selfishly allowed the offense of my very favorite sports team to be run into the ground and become a national punch-line.

True. If Ferentz quits now, he does not have the integrity that most seem to think he has. He signed a contract and should honor it. I doubt that contract states that he stays only if Brian is OC.

 

[amahawk]

Kirk can keep coaching as a line coach for an NFL team, and he can demand that Brian be his assistant OL coach. Problem solved

I could see them at a Juco or small college. A retirement job that he would enjoy.

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

Kirk's desire to coach has nothing to do with who his OC is.

Let me make this very clear and simple for everyone. If the man wants to coach, he will keep coaching. If he doesn't want to coach, he will stop coaching

 

[auntie_fah]

Because Beth is the main reason this happened

I would say Kirk and Barta are the main reason this happened

 

[gamedayron01]

As the season turns from Autumn to Winter, leaves fall from the tree, only to be born anew in the spring.

The Shadow knows.

 

[pistachio1999]

If people think Gary was not also basically sent to forced retirement by the U of Prez I don’t know what to say. It’s her doing the decision making.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

As the season turns from Autumn to Winter, leaves fall from the tree, only to be born anew in the spring.

The Shadow knows.

Do you forecast gale winds from the East or West? 😉

 

[anon_b29nm7v7dwp6r]

If people think Gary was not also basically sent to forced retirement by the U of Prez I don’t know what to say. It’s her doing the decision making.

I do think people are underestimating this….I think a new president came in, looked at the athletics department and (rightfully so) determined that the institution needed to rein it back in.

We were losing millions in lawsuit settlements seemingly every year….the football program was turning into the poster child for nepotism rules….I believe you are correct and President Wilson probably forced a change at the top, and is cleaning house.

 

[mustang_hawk]

True. If Ferentz quits now, he does not have the integrity that most seem to think he has. He signed a contract and should honor it. I doubt that contract states that he stays only if Brian is OC.

What AD would agree to a contract that only runs through the year a coach intends to retire? How the hell could that coach recruit the new players a program needs in the last 2 or 3 years he’s there?

 

[pistachio1999]

I do think people are underestimating this….I think a new president came in, looked at the athletics department and (rightfully so) determined that the institution needed to rein it back in.

We were losing millions in lawsuit settlements seemingly every year….the football program was turning into the poster child for nepotism rules….I believe you are correct and President Wilson probably forced a change at the top, and is cleaning house.

She, I am sure basically gave Gary the ultimatum. Retire and make it seem so or get tossed. I remember it catching most people off guard at the time, including Kirk.

 

[BonzoFury]

True. If Ferentz quits now, he does not have the integrity that most seem to think he has. He signed a contract and should honor it. I doubt that contract states that he stays only if Brian is OC.

I would agree, but for different reason. Coaches often retire before their contract is up. But if KFz retires now because he's no longer allowed to prop up his son...that would be telling.

 

[SoDakHawk]

I do think people are underestimating this….I think a new president came in, looked at the athletics department and (rightfully so) determined that the institution needed to rein it back in.

We were losing millions in lawsuit settlements seemingly every year….the football program was turning into the poster child for nepotism rules….I believe you are correct and President Wilson probably forced a change at the top, and is cleaning house.

Then you can stick a fork in Iowa Football because situations like this, where the University Pres "reigns" the program in, never turn out good. Once they "reign" the program in they have a hard time letting go of control. Big time, successful Head Football Coaches are alpha dogs and won't work under those conditions.

Get ready for a decade of futility inside the entire athletic dept. if the administrators start getting too involved.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I really am not sure what to expect. I voted "Yes" because KF would be leaving a lot of money on the table, and maybe he doesn't want to go out on this note (just speculating). But, with BF out, KF's age, etc. maybe he will decide it's the right time to retire. Anyone's guess is as good as mine.

 

[pistachio1999]

Then you can stick a fork in Iowa Football because situations like this, where the University Pres "reigns" the program in, never turn out good. Once they "reign" the program in they have a hard time letting go of control. Big time, successful Head Football Coaches are alpha dogs and won't work under those conditions.

Get ready for a decade of futility inside the entire athletic dept. if the administrators start getting too involved.

Like the one that went after tailgating.

 

[BonzoFury]

Then you can stick a fork in Iowa Football because situations like this, where the University Pres "reigns" the program in, never turn out good. Once they "reign" the program in they have a hard time letting go of control. Big time, successful Head Football Coaches are alpha dogs and won't work under those conditions.

Get ready for a decade of futility inside the entire athletic dept. if the administrators start getting too involved.

It's a fine line. I think getting rid of Brian was a good move. That doesn't necessarily mean the East bank is going to reign over the athletic department. If Wilson listened to the boosters and supported her AD's call...it's not a bad thing. Kirk had clearly put himself above the program. Alpha male is one thing... untouchable dictator is quite another.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Kirk's desire to coach has nothing to do with who his OC is.

Let me make this very clear and simple for everyone. If the man wants to coach, he will keep coaching. If he doesn't want to coach, he will stop coaching

Enough with your sanctimonious sh*t. We just got cmhawks to leave; we don't need a replacement.

So you're trying to tell all us little people that that Kirk's decision when to retire has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact that his kid was just given his walking papers and won't be his right-hand boy anymore after this season, and he was just told what to do by his boss for the first time in >20 years? Get real. You don't know KF more than anyone else here, and you're crazy if you don't think this situation will have some bearing on how long he plans to coach.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Enough with your sanctimonious sh*t. We just got cmhawks to leave; we don't need a replacement.

So you're trying to tell all us little people that that Kirk's decision when to retire has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact that his kid was just given his walking papers and won't be his right-hand boy anymore after this season, and he was just told what to do by his boss for the first time in >20 years? Get real. You don't know KF more than anyone else here, and you're crazy if you don't think this situation will have some bearing on how long he plans to coach.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to tell all you little people

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

Enough with your sanctimonious sh*t. We just got cmhawks to leave; we don't need a replacement.

So you're trying to tell all us little people that that Kirk's decision when to retire has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact that his kid was just given his walking papers and won't be his right-hand boy anymore after this season, and he was just told what to do by his boss for the first time in >20 years? Get real. You don't know KF more than anyone else here, and you're crazy if you don't think this situation will have some bearing on how long he plans to coach.

So you don’t like people with differing opinions than you? I’m shocked! KF deserves to choose when he leaves and if don’t agree with me you’re stupid. Did I do that right?

 

[HawkeyeinOmaha]

I want to change my vote.

 

[BonzoFury]

Notice the poll has shifted significantly to "NO" after the presser. KFz looked like a guy who's had enough.

 

[IAHUNTER]

KF is gone. Take it to the bank

 

[ClarindaA's]

Anyone who thinks Brian being let go has a thing to do with whether Kirk continues to coach or not is clueless

Isn’t that up to Kirk

 

[ClarindaA's]

KF is gone. Take it to the bank

I believe

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

So you don’t like people with differing opinions than you? I’m shocked! KF deserves to choose when he leaves and if don’t agree with me you’re stupid. Did I do that right?

WTF are you talking about?

I'm not the one who posted Let me make this very clear and simple for everyone like I'm lecturing a bunch of 3rd graders. eyesofhawk obviously thinks his opinion is more accurate and important than everyone else's; not surprising he got a "like" from his idol, cmhawks. I've never made such a suggestion about myself, and I don't call other posters "clueless" as he has in this thread. I'm calling him out on his attitude more so than I am his inane take on things.