Would you rather have the Big 10 without extra four?

[TKingpin]

Maryland brings a lot more than basketball. IIRC, they may be Thee national power in LaCrosse. Huskers and PSU are perennial powers in volleyball. Obviously PSU has replaced Iowa as the top wrestling school.

I think some of the minor sports have been enhanced by the inclusion of PSU, UNL and MD. Rutgers... hmmm. Maybe with the BTN money coming their way they can hire better ADs, coaches, upgrade facilities and if any of their teams could catch lightning in a bottle for even one year, then they would have the kind of recruiting advantage that most of the B1G would only dream about.

Having said all that, if I could replace the additions of MD, UNL and Rutgers and replace them with Notre Dame, I would do it in a heartbeat. 12 teams. Stop right there. Require 10 conference games so you only miss one school each year.

 

[N.Legend]

Maryland brings a lot more than basketball. IIRC, they may be Thee national power in LaCrosse. Huskers and PSU are perennial powers in volleyball. Obviously PSU has replaced Iowa as the top wrestling school.

I think some of the minor sports have been enhanced by the inclusion of PSU, UNL and MD. Rutgers... hmmm. Maybe with the BTN money coming their way they can hire better ADs, coaches, upgrade facilities and if any of their teams could catch lightning in a bottle for even one year, then they would have the kind of recruiting advantage that most of the B1G would only dream about.

Having said all that, if I could replace the additions of MD, UNL and Rutgers and replace them with Notre Dame, I would do it in a heartbeat. 12 teams. Stop right there. Require 10 conference games so you only miss one school each year.

And that means Iowa would constantly be in the lower half of the conference with Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota The Hawks can't constantly keep up with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern and Purdue. At least now with the two divisions a bowl is almost guaranteed (good or bad). If those mentioned were out of the conference they would have a better chance of making a bowl, taking up bowl space and cutting off the BIG. Bowl alliances would go by the wayside.

 

[K OKeefe]

Make an example of the two PEDOPHILE universities and get rid of them from the conference- they represent a stain on the B1G!!!

 

[Johnsoda123]

Rename the conference the Big 14 and sell the rights to the B1G to the Big 12.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

I don't care either way. I just want Iowa to win.

 

[cecilB]

And that means Iowa would constantly be in the lower half of the conference with Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota The Hawks can't constantly keep up with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern and Purdue. At least now with the two divisions a bowl is almost guaranteed (good or bad). If those mentioned were out of the conference they would have a better chance of making a bowl, taking up bowl space and cutting off the BIG. Bowl alliances would go by the wayside.

You are trying too hard to troll.

For being part of a fan base so staunchly devoted to history and tradition, one would think you know how Iowa stacks up against MSU, PS(since they were allowed in the Big 10), NW and Purdue.

Over a long, long, long sample size...tier 1 is OSU/Mich

Tier 2 is Iowa, Wisconsin, MSU. Wisky is actually the late comer to this party. One of these three consistently have had teams in contention late into the year, for decades!

Tier 3 - the rest...infrequently some of this group cycles up.

FWIW, I grew up on Nebraska football, currently live in Lincoln, have gone to many games and Nebraska bowl games. I get the Cornhusker fan base and the program. And, only a deaf and blind person doesn’t recognize how grating fans like you are. You are the freedom caucus of the Big 10

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

And that means Iowa would constantly be in the lower half of the conference with Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota The Hawks can't constantly keep up with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern and Purdue.

Iowa has two conference championships this century with that B1G lineup with no divisions. That's two more than Nebraska in any conference. And LOL at keeping up with NW and Purdue.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

Maryland brings a lot more than basketball. IIRC, they may be Thee national power in LaCrosse. Huskers and PSU are perennial powers in volleyball. Obviously PSU has replaced Iowa as the top wrestling school.

I think some of the minor sports have been enhanced by the inclusion of PSU, UNL and MD. Rutgers... hmmm. Maybe with the BTN money coming their way they can hire better ADs, coaches, upgrade facilities and if any of their teams could catch lightning in a bottle for even one year, then they would have the kind of recruiting advantage that most of the B1G would only dream about.

Having said all that, if I could replace the additions of MD, UNL and Rutgers and replace them with Notre Dame, I would do it in a heartbeat. 12 teams. Stop right there. Require 10 conference games so you only miss one school each year.

Lacrosse and Volleyball are great and all, but I think most are concerned with the BIG sports of Football and Basketball. I'm a wrestling fan too, but bball and football are THEE sports.

Side note, would love for a bigger push of the B1G hockey and get the Hawks to put together a full scholarship team!! I'd like to think that they'd come close to break even financially

 

[greenelite]

I'm fine with the B1G + 4. All four help Iowa's national stage.

PSU is one of us now and a very important piece of the conference. Wrestling, football, and academic powerhouse.
Nebraska - I enjoy handing them their asses, but they will never be an academically B1G caliber institution.
Maryland - Historical basketball powerhouse and I've been entertained at our football matchups. DC market is important for the footprint. Impressive academically.
Rutgers - A decent fit. Wrestling and football will improve. Jersey/NYC market is important as well -- not that they corner it, but it helps with penetration.

We are doing it right as a conference.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Penn St can stay. 11 teams 9 games.

Nah, dump that trashy school/state.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

I like it. I enjoyed the Big10 (11) the most but that is prob just nostalgia. Nebraska and the other 2 have grown on me.

If Neb has grown on you I’d immediately see a doctor & get it removed.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Penn St can stay. 11 teams 9 games.

If you can figure out how you can have a 9-game conference schedule in a conference with 11 teams, I will crown you the sports and mathematics genius of the history of the world.

 

[N.Legend]

You are trying too hard to troll.

For being part of a fan base so staunchly devoted to history and tradition, one would think you know how Iowa stacks up against MSU, PS(since they were allowed in the Big 10), NW and Purdue.

Over a long, long, long sample size...tier 1 is OSU/Mich

Tier 2 is Iowa, Wisconsin, MSU. Wisky is actually the late comer to this party. One of these three consistently have had teams in contention late into the year, for decades!

Tier 3 - the rest...infrequently some of this group cycles up.

FWIW, I grew up on Nebraska football, currently live in Lincoln, have gone to many games and Nebraska bowl games. I get the Cornhusker fan base and the program. And, only a deaf and blind person doesn’t recognize how grating fans like you are. You are the freedom caucus of the Big 10

You sound like a want-a-b-Husker fan. Thank you anyway for your contributions to Nebraska football. The original post wanted to go back to the way it was before the 2011 season and do a round-robin schedule. My comment pointed out that it would be more difficult for Iowa to get to a BOWL GAME. In years 2012, 2011, 2010 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005 2002, 2001, 1999 etc. taking in consideration they might upset an Ohio State, but subtracting the easy wins that would no longer be on their schedule Iowa would have missed out on a bowl game those years.
I appreciate Iowa fans for their tenacity but they snake out an argument like...Nebraska fan "1999 42-0." Iowa fan "History." Iowa fan "55-14." Nebraska fan, "history." Iowa fan your stupid.
Then there's the Yogi Berra mentality...you wouldn't have won if we would have beaten you. You would have to admit Iowa struggles at being consistent. Another reason a 11 team conference would make it more difficult getting to a bowl game. And you sir sound like a B. Sanders socialist.

 

[rchawk]

The OP's post is a wish list, which is fine, but in no way based on reality. In 123 years the Big Ten has never permanently kicked a team out of the conference. That's a good reason to be very careful about who you add.

The University of Chicago was an early member but dropped out from athletic competition in 1940 or so. An excellent academic school to this day Everybody else was here to stay, from Michigan State in the 1950s to the present.

My wish list, unrealistic as all of those above, is that the Big Ten admitted Nebraska along with Missouri and Pitt. Missouri wanted in pretty badly, it was doable. Penn State would have squashed the Pitt nomination though.

Notre Dame will have to be dragged into a conference with full sports schedules kicking and screaming. They aren't there yet, maybe someday. Oklahoma doesn't have the academic chops to get in, I see a lot of no votes. Don't forget the Big Ten Academic Alliance which contributes billions (with a B) of dollars to member schools. If you aren't a total Cooter-Ray moron you will understand that the universities have many priorities above sports.

 

[grayhair81]

You sound like a want-a-b-Husker fan. Thank you anyway for your contributions to Nebraska football. The original post wanted to go back to the way it was before the 2011 season and do a round-robin schedule. My comment pointed out that it would be more difficult for Iowa to get to a BOWL GAME. In years 2012, 2011, 2010 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005 2002, 2001, 1999 etc. taking in consideration they might upset an Ohio State, but subtracting the easy wins that would no longer be on their schedule Iowa would have missed out on a bowl game those years.
I appreciate Iowa fans for their tenacity but they snake out an argument like...Nebraska fan "1999 42-0." Iowa fan "History." Iowa fan "55-14." Nebraska fan, "history." Iowa fan your stupid.
Then there's the Yogi Berra mentality...you wouldn't have won if we would have beaten you. You would have to admit Iowa struggles at being consistent. Another reason a 11 team conference would make it more difficult getting to a bowl game. And you sir sound like a B. Sanders socialist.

2002 Iowa wouldn't have missed out on a bowl regardless of who they were playing. And in a 10-team conference and with half the bowl games that exist today, Iowa managed to go to a bowl game 11 out of 12 years from 81-92. PSU joined in 93. They managed a bowl game from 93-97 until things finally bottomed out from 98-00. The lack of large numbers of weak teams didn't hurt Iowa before the expansion from 11-14 teams.

 

[thecarls]

If Neb has grown on you I’d immediately see a doctor & get it removed.

Lol

 

[bumpstock]

Replace 'em with Army, Navy, Air Force, and Notre Dame.

 

[RedMyMind]

Get rid of Iowa and bring in Iowa State.

 

[RedMyMind]

Purdue and Indiana are probably better than Nebraska. This isnt the Tom Osborne Huskers.

This isn't going to be Riley's Huskers either. The only ones Iowa can beat, minus 1 Pelini team.

 

[cecilB]

You sound like a want-a-b-Husker fan. Thank you anyway for your contributions to Nebraska football. The original post wanted to go back to the way it was before the 2011 season and do a round-robin schedule. My comment pointed out that it would be more difficult for Iowa to get to a BOWL GAME. In years 2012, 2011, 2010 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005 2002, 2001, 1999 etc. taking in consideration they might upset an Ohio State, but subtracting the easy wins that would no longer be on their schedule Iowa would have missed out on a bowl game those years.
I appreciate Iowa fans for their tenacity but they snake out an argument like...Nebraska fan "1999 42-0." Iowa fan "History." Iowa fan "55-14." Nebraska fan, "history." Iowa fan your stupid.
Then there's the Yogi Berra mentality...you wouldn't have won if we would have beaten you. You would have to admit Iowa struggles at being consistent. Another reason a 11 team conference would make it more difficult getting to a bowl game. And you sir sound like a B. Sanders socialist.

You are trying too hard to troll. And you know better...a B Sanders socialist who be lynched in the uber ‘tolerant’ Nebraska. It is the most political intolerant state in the country...well one of them. The void of discourse on that front makes it pretty boring.

 

[Metroplexgold]

I’d get rid of them in a heartbeat. Rutgers and Maryland in are a joke. Doesn’t even feel like a big ten game when you play them. I was excited when nebby got added because I thought it was a good thing to add a juggernaut. But they have stunk up the joint lately and have never been near their potential. It’s to the point where it seems obvious those days are over. Even if Frost has good seasons, their days of being a contender aren’t going to be sustained.

The other thing that I think would suck is if they added Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas or other teams on our side it will get to the point where a big ten west schedule won’t feel like a big ten schedule.

The question here is who would kick them out? They each have the same number of votes on anything conference related as Iowa does. They each most likely control larger markets than Iowa does. They may be voting to kick Iowa out of the B10 one day because they don't want to supplement Iowa with their generated revenue.

 

[Hawkdome]

All schools should have only lingerie football.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

All schools should have only lingerie football.

Mic drop

 

[Hawkdome]

I am just kidding.

 

[Hawkdome]

Although i like lingerie football.

 

[Hock-I]

If I could get rid of them all I would.

Seriously? What the hell would you post about if Nebraska was not in the B1G?

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Although i like lingerie football.

I call bs on this.

 

[ctghawk]

Just curious how many would rather have a Big 10 without Nebraska, Maryland, Penn State and Rutgers? With 10 teams, everyone could play each other every year. Would make the rivalry"s more interesting.

I liked the Bit Ten more when it was 10 teams. I would be happy if we could flash back to that tomorrow.

 

[hawkeye1944]

Perhaps my sarcasm meter is 69ing itself tonight.....if you're suggesting that the SEC could actually pilfer a B10 program "on call", you are indeed a special son of a bitch.

Have another beer. You don't know my family, but maybe you relate to yours

 

[CDMXHusker]

Purdue and Indiana are probably better than Nebraska. This isnt the Tom Osborne Huskers.

The level of ignorance here is staggering.

 

[GarryO37]

I'd keep the PSU and Nebraska expansions. Both were great additions to the conference.

The Maryland/Rutgers expansion was a strikeout.

Rutgers and Maryland were added to help offset the s*** academics at Nebraska.

 

[kentadel]

In reality if the Big went to 10 today, considering tv viewership and bcs positioning, Nebraska would be in with Ohio st, Michigan, Penn St, Wisconsin, Mich st and Iowa. Choosing the last 3 would be tough as original members would be out.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

In reality if the Big went to 10 today, considering tv viewership and bcs positioning, Nebraska would be in with Ohio st, Michigan, Penn St, Wisconsin, Mich st and Iowa. Choosing the last 3 would be tough as original members would be out.

Going purely by success on the field since I started watching college football (80s), Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue are in. Those 10 would be a great football conference, and I would love to play the other 9 each and every season.

However, that won't happen, and although I long for the old days at times, I'm also willing to roll with the changes, and I'm trying to get used to the new B1G and new college football landscape overall.

 

[waterboy4582]

The level of ignorance here is staggering.

Hi, it's 2018.

 

[Melrose_Place31]

Nebraska fan here, would like to add another 4. OU, KU, ND and UNC would be who I picked.

Have 2 divisions in a rotating pod system. Don’t care about Big Ten tradition. Think it’s rich you’d Like you’d rather play Purdue and Indiana over Nebraska. Liar

KU...UNC...? Who, what....why? That would never ever....ever, ever, ever....ever happen. Maybe on a long shot if the Big 12 imploded we could get Kansas State, I could MAYBE see that. But likely OU. UNC is a key cog in the ACC basketball realm, so no. I can also see ISU eventually...that makes sense for basketball and football if they continue to improve, and under Campbell I suspect that will be true. ND also makes sense, but, as Hayden always said, they're afraid of us. But with the way TV contracts are going these days, that NBC deal doesn't look as fantastic as it once did.

 

[mpfeiler]

Cut Maryland and Rutgers loose!

 

[TKingpin]

We have to live in reality. No current school will ever get dumped. We have 14 teams, and I think it is reasonably certain that 16 teams is inevitable. So we should really debate on who the next 2 should be admitted so that they, too, can beat the crap out of Nebraska.

Want? Notre Dame And Texas. Shift Purdue back to the Eadtern Division. This is not very realistic, though.

Realistically, U of Missouri is the main State school of that state which is contiguous with 3 current B1G members. Pitt lost out in ‘53 to MSU and now that PSU is in, adding them doesn’t do a lot for our footprint, but they sure seem like more of a B1G school than almost any other I can think of. Someone once mentioned The University of Toronto on here a few years ago. They don’t play football as far as I know, but it is that kind of outside-the-box thinking I have kept thinking about. Talk about opening up new markets! Plus they are highly reputable school. Serious hurdles, there. They would have to apply to be a member of the NCAA. Would they even be eligible to win a “National Championship? Still, it could be a great addition to the college experience to go there. Toronto is one awesome city. Maybe they could hire Bobby Stoops to start their program from scratch.

 

[CDMXHusker]

Hi, it's 2018.

No shit.

 

[waterboy4582]

No shit.

When the goofers and the Hawks don't blow you out call back.

 

[doughuddl2]

Get rid of Iowa and bring in Iowa State.

You couldn't beat them either.