Xavier Foster

[mtdew_fever]

I heard that Moss tranferred because he felt Iowa graduate program didnt offer him what he was looking for.


QUOTE="andy1992, post: 7011023, member: 10374"]Honestly this is the dumbest take on the situation. Moss didn’t transfer because a red shirt freshman who has never played is going to take his minutes, so he decided to transfer to a loaded top team in the country.
Moss transferred because him and Fran didn’t see eye to eye and Kansas brings more exposure[/QUOTE]

 

[buttnoles]

Is KU and Bill $elf sniffing around Foster?

 

[Hayes_30]

Is KU and Bill $elf sniffing around Foster?

They were at one time.

 

[andy1992]

Bullshit. His father/him had nothing but positive things to say about Fran and Iowa on the way out. Unless you are privy to information that the public is not (and I am assuming that is not the case, otherwise you would have already let us know) then stop making unfounded speculations.

He went to Kansas because he has the opportunity to play an important role on a traditional powerhouse, which he likely hopes to leverage for future opportunities. It is a fantastic opportunity for Isaiah and he was smart to seize it. Go back to the State board

That may be true but it’s not because he was afraid of CJ Frederick beating him out like a couple people said. That’s just dumb

 

[BBHawk]

That may be true but it’s not because he was afraid of CJ Frederick beating him out like a couple people said. That’s just dumb

Moss knew that he wouldn't be guaranteed playing time, and that CJ can light it up. Don't kid yourself.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Moss knew that he wouldn't be guaranteed playing time, and that CJ can light it up. Don't kid yourself.

This is not rocket science to understand. Moss played nearly equal minutes with Connor last year, despite Moss shooting over 40% from 3-point land and Connor shooting 17% from 3. One was getting minutes down the stretch in games, and the other was not.

 

[CP84]

This is not rocket science to understand. Moss played nearly equal minutes with Connor last year, despite Moss shooting over 40% from 3-point land and Connor shooting 17% from 3. One was getting minutes down the stretch in games, and the other was not.

Interesting that you only focused on 3 point shooting and not turnovers or assist percentage, which are key stats when playing with a lead in crunch time. We won a lot of close games with Connor in the game late.

 

[iahawks10]

This is not rocket science to understand. Moss played nearly equal minutes with Connor last year, despite Moss shooting over 40% from 3-point land and Connor shooting 17% from 3. One was getting minutes down the stretch in games, and the other was not.

This is just dumb. One played 24 mpg and started every game. The other played 18 mpg and made 0 starts.
One was 4th overall in mpg and the other was 7th.

I liked Moss, but the knock on him was that he disappeared in many games. That knock is pretty accurate and not someone you want in the game during the final stretch.

 

[unoHawkeye]

That may be true but it’s not because he was afraid of CJ Frederick beating him out like a couple people said. That’s just dumb

Beating him out? Not likely. However, there is almost zero doubt that CJ was going to cut into Moss’ minutes this coming year. With Bohannon also spending an increased amount of time off the ball (if he plays), it is fair to say that Moss probably felt like he wasn’t going to see as much playing time as he would have liked. So Isaiah committed to Arkansas, seeing an opportunity to have a larger role on their team. Then he switched to Kansas, a school whose name carries a lot of weight in any basketball circle, at the expense of having that increased role.

As far as Fran not trusting Moss late in games, it appears that he trusted him enough to have him in late in Iowa’s biggest (and last) game of the year. He gave Isaiah enough of a leash to let him play hero ball in overtime against Tennessee, and it was one of the biggest reasons the Hawks lost. In that situation, at least, Moss was trusted to a fault

 

[kceasthawk]

What a stupid post. Moss transferred out because he knew he was going to lose time to a redshirt freshman and the team didn’t trust him to play at the end of games. If he starts for Kansas, then they aren’t a Top 5 team.

This. KU has a bunch of problems right now, on and off the court. If Self manages to stay at the top this year, it will probably be his best coaching job yet. He's a fighter though, so maybe he rallies the troops into a bunker mentality. KU has struggled a little recruiting lately. There haven't been many years they would have picked up a transfer like Moss, and he could have just walked into possibly starting.

 

[kceasthawk]

I heard that Moss tranferred because he felt Iowa graduate program didnt offer him what he was looking for.


QUOTE="andy1992, post: 7011023, member: 10374"]Honestly this is the dumbest take on the situation. Moss didn’t transfer because a red shirt freshman who has never played is going to take his minutes, so he decided to transfer to a loaded top team in the country.
Moss transferred because him and Fran didn’t see eye to eye and Kansas brings more exposure

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Exposure for what exactly? Your not saying that Moss thinks he's going to be drafted next year are you? If so, he needs to be put on medication of some kind.....

 

[BirdistheWord]

yeah but if he was afraid of playing time he would have stayed with Arkansas. He didn’t leave because CJ Was going to take his minutes. That’s so dumb. It’s a Fran and him issue. I don’t think he sees much playing time at Kansas but at least at Kansas an All American type kid will get his minutes. Not a red shirt freshman that played well in practice last year. That’s ridiculous

The realty is that Moss landing at KU is an anomaly. He is a very good role player/specialist as a spot up shooter. He just had not proven to be a clutch player or one who really has a diverse or consistent game. I dont think there is a consensus view that CJF is necessarily better than Moss, but he likely has a higher ceiling as a RSFR and is able to bring a more diverse game including passing, ball handling, etc. Did Fran and Moss not see eye to eye? Sure, Moss saw himself as a high minute, starting 2G. Fran saw a guy in CJF closing fast and who would bring a "Moxie" not displayed by Moss, so not exactly what the Senior to be wanted to hear. You keep spinning that this is all Fran's fault but this is a two way street.

In the end, KU was able to add a nice senior piece to support a strong cast. Iowa would have rather kept Moss for sure, but his upside was limited and clearly there was a lot of competition for 2G minutes. Best of luck to him.

 

[seer_hawk]

This is just dumb. One played 24 mpg and started every game. The other played 18 mpg and made 0 starts.
One was 4th overall in mpg and the other was 7th.

I liked Moss, but the knock on him was that he disappeared in many games. That knock is pretty accurate and not someone you want in the game during the final stretch.

I think you are making the same point as Dodger.

 

[iahawks10]

I think you are making the same point as Dodger.

I don’t think you’re getting what Dodger is trying to say. I take Dodger’s comment that Moss left because he was unfairly treated because he was a better 3 pt shooter than Connor. Also, that CM and Moss played equal minutes. I pointed out that they were not equal nor were they nearly equal by any definition. Again, his comment was beyond ridiculous.

Dodger complained that Moss wasn’t in when the game was on the line. I explained why Moss wasn’t in.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

So, uh, is Foster gonna be a Hawkeye?

 

[SCHawkFan]

I keep looking for XF news and all I see is a debate about a KU guard.

 

[Ballhawk1221]

I keep looking for XF news and all I see is a debate about a KU guard.

This thread was hijacked a long time ago.

 

[IowaPride95]

This thread was hijacked a long time ago.

To be fair, there likely will be no worthy news on Foster until November 10th at the earliest so this thread is just going to bounce around until then as people not-so-patiently await the news

 

[2432Hawk]

This is not rocket science to understand. Moss played nearly equal minutes with Connor last year, despite Moss shooting over 40% from 3-point land and Connor shooting 17% from 3. One was getting minutes down the stretch in games, and the other was not.

6.5 min more a game is not "nearly equal minutes" And let's realize Connor was a better facilitator, thus in during late games. Think of the game at Rutgers, the N'Western game, other countless late games that Connor made key assists to Bohannon (playing off the ball) and JW's corner winner at Rutgers.

https://hawkeyesports.com/cumestats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2018

 

[owenhawk]

6.5 min more a game is not "nearly equal minutes" And let's realize Connor was a better facilitator, thus in during late games. Think of the game at Rutgers, the N'Western game, other countless late games that Connor made key assists to Bohannon (playing off the ball) and JW's corner winner at Rutgers.

https://hawkeyesports.com/cumestats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2018

Correct. And I didn’t know 3pt shooting pct was what dictated playing time down the stretch? Connor was the tougher, more reliable player in tight games.

 

[David1979]

It’s funny that some fans think Moss wasn’t good enough to beat out Frederick this year but he is good enough to play stater minutes for a top 5 team in the country.

 

[TCOOL]

It’s funny that some fans think Moss wasn’t good enough to beat out Frederick this year but he is good enough to play stater minutes for a top 5 team in the country.

It's funny that some fans think we redshirted 2 guys (Nunge and Fredrick) who were regularly taking it to the starters in practice.

 

[Rifler]

This is not rocket science to understand. Moss played nearly equal minutes with Connor last year, despite Moss shooting over 40% from 3-point land and Connor shooting 17% from 3. One was getting minutes down the stretch in games, and the other was not.

One was able to manage the ball, and the other was not....

 

[mtdew_fever]

Exposure? No, I w as suggesting Moss went to KU for the graduate (Masters) program.

QUOTE="kceasthawk, post: 7017441, member: 82656"][/QUOTE]
Exposure for what exactly? Your not saying that Moss thinks he's going to be drafted next year are you? If so, he needs to be put on medication of some kind.....[/QUOTE]

 

[Fsanford]

It's funny that some fans think we redshirted 2 guys (Nunge and Fredrick) who were regularly taking it to the starters in practice.

Red shirt guys throughout the country are future NBA draft picks, don't think I have ever heard of a red shirt guy sucking in practice. Does not matter which fan base you talk to. Red shirt guys kick ass. It is similar to the whole back up QB concept. The guy on the bench is better, and is simply being kept down by the "man".

When you don't get beat on game in and game out, a red shirt player just might have better legs than the guys who run the gauntlet of the Big 10, during practice sessions.

 

[DodgerHawki]

One was able to manage the ball, and the other was not....

Agreed. To those replying to me about why Connor was a better choice at end of games, I don't necessarily disagree with you. Moss did make odd decisions at times. And Connor did have good end of game sequences early on against UConn and Iowa State. But once teams figured out that he couldn't shoot, Iowa didn't have very good options to go to at end of games.

I was just sharing the shooting stats as what likely drove the thinking for why Moss transferred. Not saying it's correct or the right way to look at things, just the way it is. Like it or not, if the team does not win and the coach's kids are playing a lot, others who aren't playing as much will leave.

 

[MepoDawg#]

You guys arguing over offensive numbers for CMac and Moss are really missing it. It’s all about defense then ball security not individual scoring.

 

[TCOOL]

You guys arguing over offensive numbers for CMac and Moss are really missing it. It’s all about defense then ball security not individual scoring.

Moss averaged less turnovers per 40 minutes than Connor did last year and Moss also had a much higher usage rate.

Also, Moss had a slightly better DRtg than Connor did last year.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

It's funny that some fans think we redshirted 2 guys (Nunge and Fredrick) who were regularly taking it to the starters in practice.

There have been plenty of practice all-americans in the Fran era.

I'll reserve judgement as to what CJ or a new look Nunge will bring until I see them play in meaningful game action against more than cannon fodder competition.

 

[hooper56]

There have been plenty of practice all-americans in the Fran era.

I'll reserve judgement as to what CJ or a new look Nunge will bring until I see them play in meaningful game action against more than cannon fodder competition.

Yes. You sure as heckfire would not want to pass out any compliments that were not completely warranted. That would be a tragedy. Better to not say anything nice and hope they fail, right?

 

[iahawks10]

One was able to manage the ball, and the other was not....

Which I’d assume would be pretty valuable in the final minutes of a close game. Probably more so than a good three point shooter when you have a lead.

 

[herkhatescy]

Honestly this is the dumbest take on the situation. Moss didn’t transfer because a red shirt freshman who has never played is going to take his minutes, so he decided to transfer to a loaded top team in the country.
Moss transferred because him and Fran didn’t see eye to eye and Kansas brings more exposure

lol

 

[2432Hawk]

just to steer this thread back to Xavier Foster....

 

[IAHawk2011]

You guys arguing over offensive numbers for CMac and Moss are really missing it. It’s all about defense then ball security not individual scoring.

Remember how fans used to bitch so much about Tyler Cook turning the ball over? Connor’s TO rate was 33% higher than Cook’s. He had the worst turnover rate on the team and it wasn’t even close.

 

[seer_hawk]

just to steer this thread back to Xavier Foster....

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Somebody cue up the Illinois game where we set a record for blocks (IIRC). I'd love to have another good shot blocker at Iowa.

 

[owenhawk]

Remember how fans used to bitch so much about Tyler Cook turning the ball over? Connor’s TO rate was 33% higher than Cook’s. He had the worst turnover rate on the team and it wasn’t even close.

Cook’s Turnovers Per 40 Minutes was 3.6. Connor’s was 2.7. Cook’s was worst on the team besides Pemsl, who only played 2 games.

Cook’s Turnover Percentage was better then Connor. Still, Connor handled the ball at end of games and proved he was up to the task in tight games with his decision-making, toughness, and he was a good free throw shooter.

All I know is if Bohannon plays, Iowa has back their top 3 players by metrics and I’m excited about the offense running through Wieskamp and Garza.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

just to steer this thread back to Xavier Foster....

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I don't know who could watch 14 minutes of Foster blocking layup attempts from kids a foot shorter than him.

Nothing you can take away from those highlights other than Foster is tall and athletic.

 

[HawkinCarmel]

Foster does seem to move well. May not be a huge instant contributor but he seems like he would fit well in Frans' uptempo system. Does Iowa take 6 this year or is it one more.

 

[TCOOL]

 

[Ballhawk1221]

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