Think of all of the opportunities for JoCo residents to virtue signal with 70K in attendance
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Will Maryland allow opposing fans into their facilities? Remember they are REQUIRING vaccination by all staff, students, etc for 2021... If they are going to plant that flag then they should forgo their athletic season as well as not everyone is getting the shot and "vaccine passports" are being banned in most states.
Same for California schools that chose the same path...
If a student gets the shot (due to the requirement) and they get sick or die, is the school going to be held accountable?
Link to measles, mumps or rubella infecting 33,000,000 and killing 600,000 Americans in the past year?Does the University of Iowa require fans born after 12/31/56 who are attending games at Kinnick to prove that they have been vaccinated for measles, mumps and rubella?
Do you consider it to be a "tight rope" for the UI to require MMR vaccination of students to enroll and attend the university but not require it of those who may be attending football games?
What makes it any different from you categorizing?He is a loony lefty.
Which would make a win there even sweeter. Full house, people going crazy, ranked in the top ten only to lose to Iowa again.I hadn’t thought of it that way. That would be nice. But judging by the Big12’s attitude towards restrictions last year it doesn’t seem likely. I would bet ISU will have a full house of fans starved for football after missing out on attending last year. Similar to the posts above, my guess is the state of Iowa will have no restrictions but after last year I could easily imagine the Big10 imposing some sort of restrictions on fans. I hope not though.
Link to measles, mumps or rubella infecting 33,000,000 and killing 600,000 Americans in the past year?
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Researchers are already working on mRNA flu vaccines to replace the kinds we now have. I think I read Duke researchers and I can't remember the other groups who are on this. I also read that researches at Johns Hopkins believe the mRNA covid vaccines look like they could provide protection for the common cold based on some early results from studies they are doing.I just hope as a result of this we get far more effective "normal" flu vaccines. I know some won't get vaxed no matter what, but I will take mine to avoid it if possible. The wizards of smart on tv never ask these medical experts and drug companies if this technology will aid in combating our normal flus. Man would I pay for some type of annual cold vaccine to avoid those for the season.
Seems to me that would be unfair. They would have to everybody . You would get in the game by halftimeDoes the University of Iowa require fans born after 12/31/56 who are attending games at Kinnick to prove that they have been vaccinated for measles, mumps and rubella?
Do you consider it to be a "tight rope" for the UI to require MMR vaccination of students to enroll and attend the university but not require it of those who may be attending football games?
Researchers are already working on mRNA flu vaccines to replace the kinds we now have. I think I read Duke researchers and I can't remember the other groups who are on this. I also read that researches at Johns Hopkins believe the mRNA covid vaccines look like they could provide protection for the common cold based on some early results from studies they are doing.
I just moved to Florida two weeks ago, and coming from Iowa where everyone in Walmart or other stores is wearing a mask, I notice only about half the Walmart patrons wearing masks, and in some places no one is wearing masks.LSU is allowing 100% capacity; no masks, too.
LSU to allow full stadiums at outdoor events
LSU is doing away with attendance limitations and its mask mandate for all outdoor athletic activities, the school announced on Wednesday.www.espn.com
I just moved to Florida two weeks ago, and coming from Iowa where everyone in Walmart or other stores is wearing a mask, I notice only about half the Walmart patrons wearing masks, and in some places no one is wearing masks.
And how bout the Flu vaccination? Or Shingles? I keep hearing from certain circles on TV that life can go back to normal once the Covid virus is gone. The flu virus has been around for what, about a hundred years, and it hasn't been defeated. So, I have high doubts that Covid will be eliminated. People, when you compare the Flu to Covid don't take into account that the Flu when it came out killed many many more then Covid.Does the University of Iowa require fans born after 12/31/56 who are attending games at Kinnick to prove that they have been vaccinated for measles, mumps and rubella?
Do you consider it to be a "tight rope" for the UI to require MMR vaccination of students to enroll and attend the university but not require it of those who may be attending football games?
I believe so. I went to ACE hardware yesterday, put my mask on and went inside. There must have been about 20 people plus staff, not one was wearing a mask, so, being in Rome, I did what the Romans do, I removed my mask. LOL Hell, I only wear one when required anyway, so I guess I fit right in here in Florida.Didn't DeSantis just put the kibosh on the continued mandates down there?
If they are forcing a vaccine that is not licensed by the FDA, could be in for some issues from fans\players.Why the heck would they need to forego their season? They can choose to play in empty stadiums if they want. They can make and enforce any attendance/fan policies they want.
So by your statistics just under 2% of the people that catch it will die. MOST of them are as old or older than the average life expectancy. Also since 33,000,000 people have antibodies, add to that the number of people who by their own free will have chosen to get vaccinated I would say the odds of catching it and dying from a full outdoor football stadium go down dramatically. Especially when you consider the average age of those going to football games. We are not going to eradicate this, we have been brainwashed to not tolerate any risk at all from this. If you are under 60 and healthy you’re more likely to die in a car accident driving to the game. If that scares people let them choose to stay home. Forcing a vaccine is crazy to me.Link to measles, mumps or rubella infecting 33,000,000 and killing 600,000 Americans in the past year?
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I don't think that requiring a vaccine is a good idea, either. AuroraHawk tried to make an asinine analogy, suggesting that COVID is the equivalent public health threat today that measles, mumps and rubella are, and I called him out on it. Peace.So by your statistics just under 2% of the people that catch it will die. MOST of them are as old or older than the average life expectancy. Also since 33,000,000 people have antibodies, add to that the number of people who by their own free will have chosen to get vaccinated I would say the odds of catching it and dying from a full outdoor football stadium go down dramatically. Especially when you consider the average age of those going to football games. We are not going to eradicate this, we have been brainwashed to not tolerate any risk at all from this. If you are under 60 and healthy you’re more likely to die in a car accident driving to the game. If that scares people let them choose to stay home. Forcing a vaccine is crazy to me.
Dude ... my best friend works as a respiratory therapist. He doesn't get to see "good" covid cases. The negative impacts of covid don't just hit "old" people ... when covid takes hold in your lungs, it's shocking the damage it does to your tissues. Furthermore, we still don't have an iota of a clue about the long-term damage it may be doing to the health of folks who either got "minor cases" or who were asymptomatic. One of my best students from last semester, has been suffering from covid-induced mind-fog ... we're talking about 20-something year old person here.So by your statistics just under 2% of the people that catch it will die. MOST of them are as old or older than the average life expectancy. Also since 33,000,000 people have antibodies, add to that the number of people who by their own free will have chosen to get vaccinated I would say the odds of catching it and dying from a full outdoor football stadium go down dramatically. Especially when you consider the average age of those going to football games. We are not going to eradicate this, we have been brainwashed to not tolerate any risk at all from this. If you are under 60 and healthy you’re more likely to die in a car accident driving to the game. If that scares people let them choose to stay home. Forcing a vaccine is crazy to me.
Does the University of Iowa require fans born after 12/31/56 who are attending games at Kinnick to prove that they have been vaccinated for measles, mumps and rubella?
Do you consider it to be a "tight rope" for the UI to require MMR vaccination of students to enroll and attend the university but not require it of those who may be attending football games?
I don't think that requiring a vaccine is a good idea, either. AuroraHawk tried to make an asinine analogy, suggesting that COVID is the equivalent public health threat today that measles, mumps and rubella are, and I called him out on it. Peace.
As I understand it ... at least for "conventional" vaccines ... there has always been the problem of "original antigenic sin" ... wherein the body is influenced by prior infection [to a different strain]. It's not until your body loses memory of the prior strain that it can gain immunity to a newer strain.Researchers are already working on mRNA flu vaccines to replace the kinds we now have. I think I read Duke researchers and I can't remember the other groups who are on this. I also read that researches at Johns Hopkins believe the mRNA covid vaccines look like they could provide protection for the common cold based on some early results from studies they are doing.
Statically it does affect older people worse than younger individuals. Show me the data it doesn’t. I’m not saying it can’t affect younger people. I’m acknowledging there is risk in anything we do.Dude ... my best friend works as a respiratory therapist. He doesn't get to see "good" covid cases. The negative impacts of covid don't just hit "old" people ... when covid takes hold in your lungs, it's shocking the damage it does to your tissues. Furthermore, we still don't have an iota of a clue about the long-term damage it may be doing to the health of folks who either got "minor cases" or who were asymptomatic. One of my best students from last semester, has been suffering from covid-induced mind-fog ... we're talking about 20-something year old person here.
The antibodies folks have developed from prior infection may be strain-dependent ... thereby explaining why Brazil got so terribly ravaged the 2nd time around be newer covid strains [many cases of re-infection].
Frankly, a link to 600,000 ACTUAL deaths FROM COVID-19 would also be helpful. Given that a newborn with his intestines outside his body was attributed--which infuriated the parents, given what he went through in his short life--and the apparent cure of cancer and heart disease, people are right to be "skeptical".Link to measles, mumps or rubella infecting 33,000,000 and killing 600,000 Americans in the past year?
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Link to measles, mumps or rubella infecting 33,000,000 and killing 600,000 Americans in the past year?
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I don't think that requiring a vaccine is a good idea, either. AuroraHawk tried to make an asinine analogy, suggesting that COVID is the equivalent public health threat today that measles, mumps and rubella are, and I called him out on it. Peace.
No it doesn't, but thanks for your concern. If it makes you feel better, I'll contact the ACT and let them know my 34 in the Reading section has been questioned by a message board dude.But to somehow interpret my post as claiming that COVID is the equivalent public health threat today as MMR demonstrates a general lack of reading and comprehension skills.
No it doesn't, but thanks for your concern. If it makes you feel better, I'll contact the ACT and let them know my 34 in the Reading section has been questioned by a message board dude.
I actually think we agree for the most part, I just thought it was silly for you to use an example comparing how the University handles diseases that have not been a widespread problem in most of our lifetimes with an unprecedented pandemic. So, while there is a history of treating fans and students differently, there is really no baseline to use for comparison, as you were suggesting.
No it doesn't, but thanks for your concern. If it makes you feel better, I'll contact the ACT and let them know my 34 in the Reading section has been questioned by a message board dude.
I actually think we agree for the most part, I just thought it was silly for you to use an example comparing how the University handles diseases that have not been a widespread problem in most of our lifetimes with an unprecedented pandemic. So, while there is a history of treating fans and students differently, there is really no baseline to use for comparison, as you were suggesting.
Statically it does affect older people worse than younger individuals. Show me the data it doesn’t. I’m not saying it can’t affect younger people. I’m acknowledging there is risk in anything we do.
You do realize that there is A TON of available data through your local department of health as it relates to COVID? There are plenty of federal sources too (I can search them down if you'd like) ... but my "lazy-factor" might be comparable to your own [which means I'll get to it in my own sweet damn time]. Anyhow, if you extrapolate local numbers (which are likely ones you might be more likely to trust) to the nation ... you'll quickly see that the quoted number of 600,000 is sadly reasonable.Frankly, a link to 600,000 ACTUAL deaths FROM COVID-19 would also be helpful. Given that a newborn with his intestines outside his body was attributed--which infuriated the parents, given what he went through in his short life--and the apparent cure of cancer and heart disease, people are right to be "skeptical".
It may not be a hoax, but it doesn't mean we are hearing the whole truth, or that the whole thing hasn't been uber-politicized.
Anyone remember all the masks after the measles shots? Yeah, me neither.
I believe so. I went to ACE hardware yesterday, put my mask on and went inside. There must have been about 20 people plus staff, not one was wearing a mask, so, being in Rome, I did what the Romans do, I removed my mask. LOL Hell, I only wear one when required anyway, so I guess I fit right in here in Florida.
Don't forget there are elections in 2022 - pretty sure the Russian variant will be spreading like wildfire right about that time. 😉Pretty much full steam ahead unless things go bonkers again. About a third of the population has been vaccinated. Should be over 75% if not higher by fall, but there are a lot of $hitheads out there who still think it's a hoax. Hopefully they are clone fans☺
I'd bet there is an 80% chance its 100% capacity. 20% chance its 50% or some hybrid of that.
DeLand, so I am north and east of I-4 and I-75. Ace is the only place I have been in that nobody was wearing a mask. Walmart, I'd say about 60-70% are wearing them in this area. I know all the business doors say masks are required, but a good percentage of people are not wearing them. I've only been here a month, as we just moved from Iowa, but I had lived in this and the Jacksonville area about 30 years ago.475You are either north of the I-4 corridor or east of I-75. Everyone from Publix to Lowe’s to my kid’s school require a mask here in SoFla.
Ah, the old, "Hospitals are full!" stuff. Except...at least where I live (Orlando area)...it never happened. In fact, it never happened in Florida.You do realize that there is A TON of available data through your local department of health as it relates to COVID? There are plenty of federal sources too (I can search them down if you'd like) ... but my "lazy-factor" might be comparable to your own [which means I'll get to it in my own sweet damn time]. Anyhow, if you extrapolate local numbers (which are likely ones you might be more likely to trust) to the nation ... you'll quickly see that the quoted number of 600,000 is sadly reasonable.
In fact, most indicators suggest that reported numbers are underestimates.
What's more ... this doesn't account for the fact that when there are spikes in infections and the hospitals get overwhelmed ... a ton of people die simply because the hospital resources are being spent toward the covid patients. Get a heart-attack when your hospital is already full .... you dead! (again, a sad equation there)