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I doubt he received much money especially this late in the game but if Tom Brands thinks the kid deserves a scholarship (no matter how big or small) I am going to agree with him.Originally posted by hawkfan31:
He might be a state champ in freestyle or Greco but not in folkstyle. He didn't make state until his sr year placing 3rd. If Iowa gave him money I am disappointed.
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Didn't start wrestling until his Freshman year of high school. I'd imagibe that they are bringing him in based purely on potential.Originally posted by HAWKMANN:
I doubt he received much money especially this late in the game but if Tom Brands thinks the kid deserves a scholarship (no matter how big or small) I am going to agree with him.Originally posted by hawkfan31:
He might be a state champ in freestyle or Greco but not in folkstyle. He didn't make state until his sr year placing 3rd. If Iowa gave him money I am disappointed.
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Interesting and good to know. I just watched a few of his videos and he looked out of position often, so that would explain it.Originally posted by LMPanther05:
Didn't start wrestling until his Freshman year of high school. I'd imagibe that they are bringing him in based purely on potential.
He is a 2015 SROriginally posted by andegre:
What year will he be once enrolled? I'm assuming he's apart of THIS class, so will start wrestling next season...
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I watched some of his matches and I like him. He looks like a Bad News Bears kinda kid - a lot of fight, very little technique. He doesn't even know how to shake hands before a match. But you can tell if he works hard and learns the sport he's gonna be very good. I like this pickup.Originally posted by Cal98:
Interesting and good to know. I just watched a few of his videos and he looked out of position often, so that would explain it.Originally posted by LMPanther05:
Didn't start wrestling until his Freshman year of high school. I'd imagibe that they are bringing him in based purely on potential.
Welcome aboard young man. Chalk me up as not giving a crap how much scholly money they give him as I'd think the guys that do this for a living got it figured out. I've never understood comments on new commits and having a tone of "better not have given him much". Personally, I think it's pretty cool Iowa grabbed a kid from Wisconsin who has seemed to pick up the sport quickly.
I liked how the opponent raised his hand, with the "I'm number 1 sign," . . . after winning the 3rd place bout!Originally posted by GetNAfterIt:
Most recent match after a quick search..
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You do realize that not every wrestler can be a starter right? The #1 guy will need someone to work out with. If you only recruit Top 50 recruits you aren't going to sign very many kids and you will have an empty room. I can also think of quite a few who have been billed as 'only room guys' who have wrestled under the big lights in Carver Hawkeye Arena.Originally posted by hawkfan31:
You would understand if you have personally watched him wrestle. I have and he will be eaten up in the Iowa room. I do give him credit for trying but Iowa seems to be given these guys that are merely place winners a spot in the room. I also look at Aaron Meyer and Keegan Shaw they weren't dominant in high school or placed high in any national tournaments but they will be pushing Michael kemerer the next few years? I don't think so
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geez...you're a toolOriginally posted by hawkfan31:
You would understand if you have personally watched him wrestle. I have and he will be eaten up in the Iowa room. I do give him credit for trying but Iowa seems to be given these guys that are merely place winners a spot in the room. I also look at Aaron Meyer and Keegan Shaw they weren't dominant in high school or placed high in any national tournaments but they will be pushing Michael kemerer the next few years? I don't think so
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You may have a different 'option' than him but you have offered zero evidence to support your opinion. You haven't said what about him you don't like or why he won't be successful just 'because I said so'. All you have done in this thread is disparage a 17/18 year old kid who is putting it all on the line to join the Iowa wrestling room. So yeah, you may not be a tool but you sure come off like one in this thread.Originally posted by hawkfan31:
Not a tool just somebody that has a different option than you. Thanks for the conversation.
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LOL Depth that Minnesota has? Oklahoma State? Iowa is waaaaay deeper than both of these schools. Seriously, look at Minnesota's roster for next year. I'd put the over/under on All-Americans at 3 for Minnesota next year and would take the under.Originally posted by hawkfan31:
I think you are mistaking me for somebody bashing the kids. I am not I am all for the kids living out their dreams. I just want to see Iowa have the depth at each weight that we used to have. Sad to say Iowa doesn't have the depth that Minnesota or penn state or ok state has. Not even close. Yes Meyer at 74/84 did a great job this year but all other weight Iowa is weak.
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Originally posted by hawkfan31:
I think you are mistaking me for somebody bashing the kids. I am not I am all for the kids living out their dreams. I just want to see Iowa have the depth at each weight that we used to have. Sad to say Iowa doesn't have the depth that Minnesota or penn state or ok state has. Not even close. Yes Meyer at 74/84 did a great job this year but all other weight Iowa is weak.
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Depth at certain weights you mean. We are solid at 125 with Laux, 141 (oops,we used to be), 149, 174, 197. At 174, we had a guy who had a nice shot at being an AA...same with 149.Originally posted by SPOONER:
Originally posted by hawkfan31:
I think you are mistaking me for somebody bashing the kids. I am not I am all for the kids living out their dreams. I just want to see Iowa have the depth at each weight that we used to have. Sad to say Iowa doesn't have the depth that Minnesota or penn state or ok state has. Not even close. Yes Meyer at 74/84 did a great job this year but all other weight Iowa is weak.
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You obviously are disconnected from the reality of college wrestling. Some of the greatest workout partners our wrestlers and coaches talk about from over the years are guys no one has ever heard of (John Robinson, TH Leet, etc.) and are exactly the guys you're saying shouldn't be in the program.
+1 Kid placed fourth at Fargo in freestyle juniors in his third year of wrestling which would mostly be on athletic talent and instinct....think about that for a moment. Once he redshirts and learns technique, builds his gas tank...i'll take him. Welcome aboard Mr. Moody.Originally posted by pablow:
I watched some of his matches and I like him. He looks like a Bad News Bears kinda kid - a lot of fight, very little technique. He doesn't even know how to shake hands before a match. But you can tell if he works hard and learns the sport he's gonna be very good. I like this pickup.Originally posted by Cal98:
Interesting and good to know. I just watched a few of his videos and he looked out of position often, so that would explain it.Originally posted by LMPanther05:
Didn't start wrestling until his Freshman year of high school. I'd imagibe that they are bringing him in based purely on potential.
Welcome aboard young man. Chalk me up as not giving a crap how much scholly money they give him as I'd think the guys that do this for a living got it figured out. I've never understood comments on new commits and having a tone of "better not have given him much". Personally, I think it's pretty cool Iowa grabbed a kid from Wisconsin who has seemed to pick up the sport quickly.
Yep, nice showing. Welcome aboard young Mr. Moody. Good luck to you.Originally posted by WatchaGonnaDoISU:
Calm down lol. He got 3rd and 4th in freestyle and Greco at fargo nationals. There are a lot of NCAA champions who didn't place that high at fargo
The article I saw from Andy Hamilton listed his records for his Junior Year (40-4) and his Senior Year (45-2). Said as a Junior he didn't qualify for State, as he had the 1,2,3 eventual placers in his Sectional. I was 17 when I graduated from High School way back when, which is apparently the case with Moody, which probably explains his still being in with the Cadets last year (I don't know the age group rules off the top of my head, but I presume this is why).Originally posted by PapaBearSLIM:
Are you guys sure he's a class of 2015 senior?
This last summer he placed at the cadet level in Fargo. Most cadets are going into fresh/soph/junior year not going into their senior year.
Interesting he did better at Fargo placing 3rd & 4th than he did at the WI gr/fs tournaments placing 3rd & 5th.
I watched the posted video and was less than impressed but he obviously did something right to make the the 3rd place match in Fargo freestyle. Trackwrestling is showing Moody with an 11-0 major dec over Jack Jessen last month. Jessen is just a freshman but was in the national rankings at some point and was the IL 3A runner up at 170. Very legit win.
Results indicate potential but hopefully he has another year of high school left. Otherwise he will be a 16 or 17 year old kid (depending on birth month) trying to survive in a top D1 room this year.
Did you turn 18 later in the year you graduated?Originally posted by sloehawk:
The article I saw from Andy Hamilton listed his records for his Junior Year (40-4) and his Senior Year (45-2). Said as a Junior he didn't qualify for State, as he had the 1,2,3 eventual placers in his Sectional. I was 17 when I graduated from High School way back when, which is apparently the case with Moody, which probably explains his still being in with the Cadets last year (I don't know the age group rules off the top of my head, but I presume this is why).Originally posted by PapaBearSLIM:
Are you guys sure he's a class of 2015 senior?
This last summer he placed at the cadet level in Fargo. Most cadets are going into fresh/soph/junior year not going into their senior year.
Interesting he did better at Fargo placing 3rd & 4th than he did at the WI gr/fs tournaments placing 3rd & 5th.
I watched the posted video and was less than impressed but he obviously did something right to make the the 3rd place match in Fargo freestyle. Trackwrestling is showing Moody with an 11-0 major dec over Jack Jessen last month. Jessen is just a freshman but was in the national rankings at some point and was the IL 3A runner up at 170. Very legit win.
Results indicate potential but hopefully he has another year of high school left. Otherwise he will be a 16 or 17 year old kid (depending on birth month) trying to survive in a top D1 room this year.