Should a defaced American flag be flown (publicly) any where?
“We took down our Pride flags… I took out any books I thought would be incriminating.”
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No. But for very different reasons.
Was chatting with aid buddy this evening. He said they probably could have done 90% of what they wanted within the parameters of the agency’s governing authority. But they chose the meat ax instead, and will lose because of it.
Any links that are germane yet? Or should we review what you should have learned? Let’s do that. The quick version is your original post is factually inaccurate. My speculation is that you are terribly uninformed, disingenuous at best, and a liar at worst.
Again, it not just me that thinks this.
Sleep on that, and maybe stop posting made up bullshit.
Now let’s address these.
I didn’t say they needed a warrant. I said they didn’t have a warrant or Congressional mandate, i.e. potential criminal or civil methods to do what they did. There’s a difference.
Feel free to post where I said they needed a warrant. I’ll wait.
So you claim I said something I didn’t, I ask you several times to show me where I said it, you finally admit I didn’t say it, and you call me disingenuous?
Love it.
One thing. Criminal. I corrected that. You indicated illegal. I used the word criminal. I corrected my error.
Now you’re going back to your originals post where you posted:
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I would think the bigger story is a federal department being raided by an agency that doesn’t legally exist, staffed by people who are not government employees, and conducting a fishing expedition for anything they deem inappropriate, without a warrant or Congressional mandate.
But that’s just me.”
And claiming you didn’t mean they needed a warrant and claiming you didn’t mean they needed “Congressional mandate”
lol.
Link to anything you claim, or STFU.
I should have said here in 2025. My bad. You one of the bigots defending this nonsense?
DOGE can’t halt Congressionally appropriated funds:
Federal court 1:
Judge blocks part of Trump’s federal financial assistance pause
The pause was set to begin Tuesday at 5 p.m., according to an Office of Management and Budget memo independently viewed by FedScoop.
fedscoop.com
Federal court 2:
What else do you need?
I haven’t even read what you are talking about. My only thought was that you were being a bit dramatic in your evaluation of US history.
Thanks for clarifying you were talking about 2025. Your post makes much more sense to me now.
Bigot? I don’t think so but every one has their own opinion.
Enjoy the evening
Of course DOGE can’t halt anything. DOGE has nothing to do with either of these. And they apply to existing funding , not new funding.DOGE can’t halt Congressionally appropriated funds:
Federal court 1:
Judge blocks part of Trump’s federal financial assistance pause
The pause was set to begin Tuesday at 5 p.m., according to an Office of Management and Budget memo independently viewed by FedScoop.
Federal court 2:
What else do you need?
Did you read these?
Good job on the Google searches though.
lol
Reading frustrates them because it requires reasoning skillz.
Good job on claiming all sources don’t meet your standards.
Trump/Musk said they cut payments on open awards and to federal contractors. Judge 1 said they can’t do that. Judge 2 said the same.
Now your claim is DOGE had nothing to do with the halted payments? Musk himself said he and DOGE did it.
I don’t think that’s obvious at all. The fact that dems and legal watchdogs aren’t suing like crazy here is bizarre.
^^^^^ When your ideas suck and you can't win elections ... sue.
My idea is that people who have not gotten the proper security clearances or congressional approvals should not be rooting around in systems with sensitive personal information.
That’s a bad idea?
You can litteraly drive around and know who is voting for who solely based on the flag they are flying (they many not they one).
How many people you know flew a pride flag and voted Trump? You could maybe count on one hand. I’ve yet to see a house fly both American flag and pride flag.
It’s almost to the point where the left stands up for the pride flag and has no issue watching Ole Glory get stepped on and lit on fire.
I fly two flags, American flag and Hawkeye flag.
You didn’t read it did you? It was an EO. DOGE can’t give EO’s.
Read your original post. You remember that post? You should since you posted it. Now read where I asked you to link to anything that proves what you posted. Concentrate on that.
All you have posted are some court cases, and you didn’t even read the links you posted. Shot, mauve you haven’t even read your original post. That seems very possible right now.
Again, I’ll keep playing until you go away. Which you’ll do when you can’t dig your way out of your own worlds. I mean we’re already there, and even people that’s ten to agree with you know it. You’re the only one still hanging on to the fantasy.
Imagine being a Canadian that supported the trucker protest and had your accounts frozen.
It was determined illegal years later, but, oh well, eh?
The third, and final, strike came on February 14, 2022, when Prime Minister Trudeau announced that he had invoked the Emergencies Act for the first time since the Act was passed in 1988 and thus authorized the government to take extraordinary measures to respond to the protesters that remained on the streets.
Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland explained that the financial activity of protestors could be frozen without a court order:
In invoking the Emergencies Act, we are … broadening the scope of Canada’s anti‐money laundering and terrorist financing rules so that they cover crowdfunding platforms and the payments service providers they use. These changes cover all forms of transactions––including digital assets such as cryptocurrencies… As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order.
Taken together, the experience illustrates how governments will use pressure, court orders, and sweeping authorities to use the financial system as a means of control.
Yet it’s not just the escalating measures that warrant concern. There’s still the question of whether the government was justified in invoking these emergency powers in the first place.
Back in 2022, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association objected to the use of the Emergencies Act saying,
The federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the Emergencies Act. This law creates a high and clear standard for good reason: the Act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met.
Today, the courts seem to agree. On January 23, 2024, a federal judge concluded that “there was no national emergency justifying the invocation of the Emergencies Act and the decision to do so was therefore unreasonable and ultra vires.”
It’s actually not bizarre, it’s telling.
They’ve sued, but they know they can’t win a case that attempts to make the argument that the POTUS can’t appoint someone, grant someone a security clearance and grant someone permission to investigate or be a watchdog. So they’ve sued for some administrative issues, and some separation of power issues. They’ll win some, not all, of those. But my argument with the dunce on here isn’t about those issues, it’s clearly about the issues he seems to think exist, when even the opposition knows those are dead on arrival.
Which is why he can’t post anything to further his argument. Argument is polite, fantasy is more accurate.
Like when he sicced the IRS on conservative PAC's?
I have an American flag and a pride flag and a Hawkeye flag. I would piss on a Trump flag. Am I American enough for you, or would you report me to the brown shirts?
Not even remotely the same, but you already know that.
Really comrade? Care to expand on that?
Answer the question, MAGA. Am I American enough for you, or am I lesser to you because I'm an ally to LGBTQ+?
Allow me to answer. No one, or at least most people, don’t give a shit what flags you fly.
But you clearly do. You think less of anyone flying a pride flag. I've never seen you say shit about someone with a confederate flag, but here you are saying that someone that flies a pride flag has an agenda. So just come out and say it, MAGA. You think you're more American than they are. You think you're better. You think they should have less than you, and you feel good about Trump validating you.
You’d be incorrect. Anyone has the right to fly any flag that want, even if those flags are offensive to some. Free speech and civil liberty applies to everyone, even those we don’t like or agree with. Something liberals should probably work at based on recent history and posts on this board. Your posts included.
What earlier comments? I’ve never made a comment on here about LBGTQ+
Why don’t you link to some of my comments that imply I’d think less of a LBGTQ+
They don’t exists, so perhaps you should concentrate on your extremely judgmental and often inaccurate posts.
Got confused in the thread and replied to the wrong person. Sincere apologies on that topic.
Still hate MAGAs.
