100% On Topic and Civil Thread on AJ Ferrari's Wrestling Future

[el dub]

Sorry here to stay. He will win 24. His vp will win next 2. Dem bs party will go away. Utopia!

So, if the trend continues. He’s going to “win,” by -14 million votes this time. (Maybe only -10 million?) He’d better up his sedition game.

Oh… I almost forgot how much those 91 felony charges over four jurisdictions as well as the various states looking to keep him off the ballot are going to put him over the top.this.time.around.

 

[Mendoza77]

Just asking- but what exactly does someone who deliberately tried to ruin the lives of others deserve to be called?

I grew up in rural Iowa in the 1960s, where parents and grandparents taught their children and grandchildren how to treat others, especially those who have been harshly judged by society. The wisest man in history said (paraphrasing) --- "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."

I often have to stop myself from judging others, and remember what was taught to me by those much wiser than I.

 

[el dub]

I grew up in rural Iowa in the 1960s, where parents and grandparents taught their children and grandchildren how to treat others, especially those who have been harshly judged by society. The wisest man in history said (paraphrasing) --- "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."

I often have to stop myself from judging others, and remember what was taught to me by those much wiser than I.

I prefer to let the judges do the judging of men. But then, I’m probably in the minority here by still believing in the rule of law.

 

[Is_there_vodka_in_heaven]

Sorry here to stay. He will win 24. His vp will win next 2. Dem bs party will go away. Utopia!

Yep, I already had you in the treasonous delusion group.

 

[MAGAman]

So, if the trend continues. He’s going to “win,” by -14 million votes this time. (Maybe only -10 million?) He’d better up his sedition game.

Oh… I almost forgot how much those 91 felony charges over four jurisdictions as well as the various states looking to keep him off the ballot are going to put him over the top.this.time.around.

Win is a win! Keep the fake indictments coming and everything elase….helps in polls thanks

 

[el dub]

Win is a win! Keep the fake indictments coming and everything elase….helps in polls thanks

So you don’t believe in the judicial system or rule of law now?

 

[ChiPackHawk]

I prefer to let the judges do the judging of men. But then, I’m probably in the minority here by still believing in the rule of law.

So - the woman lied about the entire incident. What the hell are you even talking about?

 

[ChiPackHawk]

I grew up in rural Iowa in the 1960s, where parents and grandparents taught their children and grandchildren how to treat others, especially those who have been harshly judged by society. The wisest man in history said (paraphrasing) --- "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."

I often have to stop myself from judging others, and remember what was taught to me by those much wiser than I.

Your comment is irrelevant - the woman lied and did it with intent to ruin lives.

 

[Mendoza77]

Your comment is irrelevant - the woman lied and did it with intent to ruin lives.

Actually my comment is completely on point. ChiPack, have you led a flawless, sinless life, whereby you can "cast stones" at others? What the woman did was wrong, as you and I and all other humans do wrong all the time. She is basically no different than you or I -- we ALL do wrong.

 

[Arbor1]

I prefer to let the judges do the judging of men. But then, I’m probably in the minority here by still believing in the rule of law.

Thrilled to see you supportive of the Supreme Courts rulings on affirmative action, abortion, student loans and handguns. Keep that NRA membership renewed!

 

[MAGAman]

Your comment is irrelevant - the woman lied and did it with intent to ruin lives.

Are you talking about trumps accusers

 

[bourbon n blues]

the middle is exactly where i am.

this all started because bnb said dropped charges makes him believe AJ's innocence more than a trial and acquittal. i think that's an insane position to hold.

You’d be wrong of course. He is innocent under the law.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

Thrilled to see you supportive of the Supreme Courts rulings on affirmative action, abortion, student loans and handguns. Keep that NRA membership renewed!

You have to admit @el dub that was one helluva comeback. One of the best I've read on this board in a loooong time.

 

[bourbon n blues]

The problem is you are making a HUGE leap in that assumption. Many prosecutors do not want to risk losing and/or investing resources and time into something where the risk could be significant. In many cases, they don't believe they are wrong, they just believe they don't have enough evidence to risk losing.

That is a giant difference from presenting everything and a jury of peers finding the person not guilty. In your situation, you are making assumptions. In the other, there is a 100% concrete decision which ends with the accused NO LONGER EVER having to worry about being charged for that exact crime again.

Edited to add: Another major component is, under the position you are arguing, there is still the possibility of the charges being reinstated, until the statute of limitiations(if there even is one in this case under that jurisdiction) runs out...There is NO WAY you would rather have your outcome over the other. But, the stress of the case and waiting for the verdict is something I am sure he is now happy to have avoided.

1. Did you ever defend , try, preside over, or investigate these cases? My opinion is from talking to these issues with an experienced sex crime investigator.

He was on the Sandusky case and believes that psu covered it up. He’s been on hundreds of these cases and when they’re dropping charges like this they don’t have a strong case. Which most likely points to that there was a consensual act and a trial is a losing proposition for the state.

2. You are not proven innocent at a trial , you are acquitted or found guilty. Innocence is the presumption until you are found guilty .

The state will not hold a trial soMe dork fan boys can get a better picture of a he said she said situation.

So is he innocent? Yep, and he always has been until proven otherwise.

 

[thom67]

Are you talking about trumps accusers

All 29 of them.

 

[el dub]

You have to admit @el dub that was one helluva comeback. One of the best I've read on this board in a loooong time.

The case rests its state…

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Are you talking about trumps accusers

Very well could have been - but this one originated from the woman who lied about the Duke lacrosse case.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Actually my comment is completely on point. ChiPack, have you led a flawless, sinless life, whereby you can "cast stones" at others? What the woman did was wrong, as you and I and all other humans do wrong all the time. She is basically no different than you or I -- we ALL do wrong.

I don't know about you, but I have never once lied with intent to purposely destroy lives. Yes, we all do wrong and at times we are deserving of harsh punishment for it. She is different than me. If you want to say you are just like her - then be my guest.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

So, if the trend continues. He’s going to “win,” by -14 million votes this time. (Maybe only -10 million?) He’d better up his sedition game.

Oh… I almost forgot how much those 91 felony charges over four jurisdictions as well as the various states looking to keep him off the ballot are going to put him over the top.this.time.around.

Do yourself a favor - check the political makeup of said jurisdictions and the financial support behind the elected leaders. You'll find a few things in common.

 

[bourbon n blues]

Do yourself a favor - check the political makeup of said jurisdictions and the financial support behind the elected leaders. You'll find a few things in common.

I live in Pa. , they illegally changed election rules allowing ballots to be counted that arrived late, lacked proper signature verification, were dated past the due date among other things. The state SC didn't care, they are Democrat controlled.

Multiple states with sudden spikes in vote tallies in swing states at app2-3 am is something I never saw before. They stole the election, I have no doubt. It appears to be backfiring, I mean when you cheat the current Potato into office it's not a good move.

 

[thom67]

I live in Pa. , they illegally changed election rules allowing ballots to be counted that arrived late, lacked proper signature verification, were dated past the due date among other things. The state SC didn't care, they are Democrat controlled.

Multiple states with sudden spikes in vote tallies in swing states at app2-3 am is something I never saw before. They stole the election, I have no doubt. It appears to be backfiring, I mean when you cheat the current Potato into office it's not a good move.

Pa has their election rules set by the legislature. Republicans have controlled pa legislature for many years. Thus, republicans made the election rules concerning mail in ballots. The late arriving ballots were due to the slow mail. They accepted those ballots that were post marked before Election Day. Let’s not let facts get in the way. Nothing illegal was done. The reason there was late night votes coming in was because mail in ballot were not allowed to be counted until after the polls closed. That was a Republican rule. All votes with questionable signature were put aside and then verified by election officials days later. Had no effect whatsoever on the election.
the reason you have never seen late night votes coming in is because we have never had that many mail in ballots previously. Most states have changed the rule to allow these votes to be counted prior to polls closing.

 

[Is_there_vodka_in_heaven]

I live in Pa. , they illegally changed election rules allowing ballots to be counted that arrived late, lacked proper signature verification, were dated past the due date among other things. The state SC didn't care, they are Democrat controlled.

Multiple states with sudden spikes in vote tallies in swing states at app2-3 am is something I never saw before. They stole the election, I have no doubt. It appears to be backfiring, I mean when you cheat the current Potato into office it's not a good move.

You've been brainwashed by Donald fking Trump lmfao. Just sad. Seek cult deprogramming therapy.

 

[MSU158]

Pa has their election rules set by the legislature. Republicans have controlled pa legislature for many years. Thus, republicans made the election rules concerning mail in ballots. The late arriving ballots were due to the slow mail. They accepted those ballots that were post marked before Election Day. Let’s not let facts get in the way. Nothing illegal was done. The reason there was late night votes coming in was because mail in ballot were not allowed to be counted until after the polls closed. That was a Republican rule. All votes with questionable signature were put aside and then verified by election officials days later. Had no effect whatsoever on the election.
the reason you have never seen late night votes coming in is because we have never had that many mail in ballots previously. Most states have changed the rule to allow these votes to be counted prior to polls closing.

For the sake of accuracy, Election reforms were voted in during Governor Wolf's(DEMOCRAT) tenure. He was in office from 2015-2023 and the reforms were adopted in 2019(Act 77)...so, no it was not "the republican's that made the election rules"...although it was heralded as a "bipartisan" Act.

Edited to add: Actually Act 12 in 2020 was actually more "contentious" than Act 77 and is probably where more of the "illegal" arguments stem from...

 

[grapplefann]

Only you and your party

Don't belong to a political party, but I like fun parties if there's beer and music. You?

 

[grapplefann]

So you don’t believe in the judicial system or rule of law now?

Probably never did. For some people, winning no matter what the cost, is what matters to them, just like the big orange fool.

 

[T8KUDWN]

AJ being in the lineup at 197, 2nd semester is sounding like it could actually happen.
If the pieces keep coming together, it could make for an interesting March.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

For the record - the loons on the football board make the cesspool look like a great think tank.

 

[gymdad]

AJ being in the lineup at 197, 2nd semester is sounding like it could actually happen.
If the pieces keep coming together, it could make for an interesting March.

In addition to the pieces coming together it looks like AJ will have to shed a few lbs to make weight @ 197. Hope everything works out for all involved but color me skeptical on the cesspool denizens being satisfied on how AJ represents the Hawkeyes on and off the mat.
By the way nice to see this return at least in part to a discussion of the sport of wrestling rather than the wrestling of politics.

 

[IRONBIRD]

Pa has their election rules set by the legislature. Republicans have controlled pa legislature for many years. Thus, republicans made the election rules concerning mail in ballots. The late arriving ballots were due to the slow mail. They accepted those ballots that were post marked before Election Day. Let’s not let facts get in the way. Nothing illegal was done. The reason there was late night votes coming in was because mail in ballot were not allowed to be counted until after the polls closed. That was a Republican rule. All votes with questionable signature were put aside and then verified by election officials days later. Had no effect whatsoever on the election.
the reason you have never seen late night votes coming in is because we have never had that many mail in ballots previously. Most states have changed the rule to allow these votes to be counted prior to polls closing.

They drove a truck load of ballots from NY to PA in the middle of the night. The driver reported it and nothing ever came of it? Lets hear your "facts" on this???

 

[grapplefann]

For the record - the loons on the football board make the cesspool look like a great think tank.

That's scary Chipack.

 

[bourbon n blues]

They drove a truck load of ballots from NY to PA in the middle of the night. The driver reported it and nothing ever came of it? Lets hear your "facts" on this???

I have a friend who was working for an outfit that was investigating the fraud. they were set to interview the truck driver and Barr told them to stand down. He was part of the call. the fraud was extensive and Trump lost by a little over 40,000 votes across three states.

 

[bourbon n blues]

In addition to the pieces coming together it looks like AJ will have to shed a few lbs to make weight @ 197. Hope everything works out for all involved but color me skeptical on the cesspool denizens being satisfied on how AJ represents the Hawkeyes on and off the mat.
By the way nice to see this return at least in part to a discussion of the sport of wrestling rather than the wrestling of politics.

I'm thinking the cut from where he's at 235?, might be too much. I'd guess he'd be very competitive at HWT.

 

[masterhawk74]

Manufacturing jobs have increased by 500,000. Jobs have increase by 13 million. People aren’t dying from Covid as under Trump. Unless they have not been vaccinated. Over 300,00 Americans died because of the way Trump handled the Covid pandemic.

This is satire, right?!

 

[masterhawk74]

Absolutely untrue. By your reasoning the vaccine must be perfect since I have been fully vaccinated as was my wife. Neither of us has had Covid.

You are an anomaly, not the norm.

 

[thom67]

I live in Pa. , they illegally changed election rules allowing ballots to be counted that arrived late, lacked proper signature verification, were dated past the due date among other things. The state SC didn't care, they are Democrat controlled.

Multiple states with sudden spikes in vote tallies in swing states at app2-3 am is something I never saw before. They stole the election, I have no doubt. It appears to be backfiring, I mean when you cheat the current Potato into office it's not a good mo

You are an anomaly, not the norm.

Not really. My answer was satire.

 

[thom67]

This is satire, right?!

No. Just facts.

 

[thom67]

For the sake of accuracy, Election reforms were voted in during Governor Wolf's(DEMOCRAT) tenure. He was in office from 2015-2023 and the reforms were adopted in 2019(Act 77)...so, no it was not "the republican's that made the election rules"...although it was heralded as a "bipartisan" Act.

Edited to add: Actually Act 12 in 2020 was actually more "contentious" than Act 77 and is probably where more of the "illegal" arguments stem from...

A governor does not make laws. The legislature does. That would be Republican during that time. for the sake of accuracy!

 

[Libertylover]

In addition to the pieces coming together it looks like AJ will have to shed a few lbs to make weight @ 197. Hope everything works out for all involved but color me skeptical on the cesspool denizens being satisfied on how AJ represents the Hawkeyes on and off the mat.
By the way nice to see this return at least in part to a discussion of the sport of wrestling rather than the wrestling of politics.

Why do you think he has to loose much weight. He’s very lean now, and could see him around upper 190’s.

 

[masterhawk74]

No. Just facts.

inaccurate facts.

 

[Libertylover]

I'm thinking the cut from where he's at 235?, might be too much. I'd guess he'd be very competitive at HWT.

If he’s 235 now, as shredded as he is, then he’s never seeing 197 again, or 205 for MMA, which is his long term plan and weight. I doubt he would say 205 his MMA weight of the future if he is 235 now.