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don't think he is in our future, but i get a smile everytime carl pisses off(on) another pennsy high school wrestler.

Pissing off talented Pennsy high school wrestlers who want to wrestle for Penn State by bringing in more talented high school wrestlers who also want to wrestle for Penn State ... no wonder his program is on the verge of collapse!
 
Not sure on Lewan. He seemed like a slower footed nothing really sticks out kind of a kid in matches I have seen. Very plain. Not real explosive.
Pissing off talented Pennsy high school wrestlers who want to wrestle for Penn State by bringing in more talented high school wrestlers who also want to wrestle for Penn State ... no wonder his program is on the verge of collapse!

Never heard anything about Karl's program collapsing. You must be making that up.:rolleyes:
 
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IMO getting Shapiro out of Valley would be an excellent pickup. I think he is a true sleeper and I don't like to typically give that label to an Iowa kid. I like how he wrestles and he seemed ot hit a growth spurt and could possible be a real nice 184. Plus I don't think he would cost much at all.

I would keep an eye on him.
 
IMO getting Shapiro out of Valley would be an excellent pickup. I think he is a true sleeper and I don't like to typically give that label to an Iowa kid. I like how he wrestles and he seemed ot hit a growth spurt and could possible be a real nice 184. Plus I don't think he would cost much at all.

I would keep an eye on him.
I agree. What he does at Fargo will greatly influence how cheap he is or isn't
 
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That might be a considerable over-interpretation. Gavin's only public comment has been "God has a plan." That seems more sad and disappointed than angry or vengeful.

His father is the one who tweeted about clearing the house of PSU stuff and selling tickets -- which could just be his way of removing PSU from Gavin's mind ... well, as much as possible for someone who lives as hour away. (Though Mr. Hoffman also tweeted at a local reporter about Beard ducking Gavin, so the father might be a little tightly wound.)

About a month ago word was Gavin was down to PSU, Cornell, and Virginia. Maybe that'll expand, but I'll be surprised if he moves as far as Iowa. With Garrett at Bucknell (20 min from home), Gavin will likely go somewhere where the family can see both of them wrestle. Never say never, but I wouldn't get too excited.

One exception: if there's a farther from home wild card, don't rule out Stanford. There is a connection -- a very prominent alum lives in Montoursville and coaches at MHS. And Gavin is smart enough to go there.
Very true. You're obviously talking about Mike. Tough situation, as Gavin would have been the third Montoursville alumni I know of to wrestle for Penn State. Montoursville is my hometown.
 
Well as long as Silva doesn't gas midway through the first period he should be fine then lol

Divided, I know you know who Alan Hart is and his penchant for wrestling tight matches against elite talent, but never really bonus'd. Even when he is just clearly outmatched (which hasn't happened much since his Freshmen year). For those of you that don't know, he is a State Champ from Ohio and multi-time State placer. Ranked in the top 10 at his weight as high as #8, he is committed to Missouri. Take a look at what Silva does to him, I can't remember Hart losing a match like this. I was blown away. This is when I became a hardcore Joey Silva fan. Here is the craziest part, he was bumping up a weight class for this dual.

http://s200.trackwrestling.com/tw/V...wSessionId=brintebgsilezdu&matchId=6322809104


Oh and he was doing standing back flips before the match as a warm up. If you watch the 126 match (Kazimir match) which was of course before the Silva and Hart match, you can see Silva just casually doing standing back flips. Now, I know several wrestlers can do them, but something about doing it not on a mat, in your full warmups, and doing multiple back to back to back just screams elite athleticism. As I mentioned somewhere earlier. He has come a LONG way in a very short amount of time. This was his results just under a year ago at AAU Duals:

Joe Silva of CFWA South Florida Lightning went 8-4

126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Braden Birt (Team Iowa Gold) TF 22-5
126 Jordan Decatur (Team Ohio Mafia) over Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) SV1 6-4
126 Kyran Hagan (Team STL Stingers) over Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) Dec 3-0
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Ryan Rasler (Children of the Corn) Fall 1:54
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Triston lara (Team Iowa Black) Dec 3-1
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Blake Glogouski (Indiana Gorillas) Dec 10-4
126 Max Murin (Young Guns Black) over Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) Dec 5-0
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Caleb Holley (BRAWLERS ELITE) TF 17-1
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Jacob D`Ambrosio (Team Palmetto BLUE SC)
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Ethan Mccoy (OHIO GRAPPLERS) Fall 5:41
126 Brian Courtney (Middle Atlantic Blue) over Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) Dec 4-3
126 Joe Silva (CFWA South Florida Lightning) over Adam Marsh (Contender Elite Black) Fall 2:40

While, not bad, it is surely rather unimpressive for what is now an elite recruit. Decatur actually bumped up a weight class from 120 just for this dual, which likely saved him from Zach Donathan who has been crushing everything since last year and is committed to a juco. His last loss in folkstyle I think was to Alan Hart Ironically enough in 2016. Since than he has won the Ironman, (beating Rentaria and Moore along the way) the Dvorak (pinned his entire way through), Senior Nationals, and some all star matches now. Yes, the same Alan Hart that looks like he is in slow motion compared to Silva in the video, and I say that as a Hart supporter. Silva is just that impressive. Its not like Hart was just having a bad weekend either. He was undefeated at the Clash other than getting major'd by Silva and beat high quality kids from Buchanan, Apple Valley, Park Hill, Foley, and Forest Lake, all but one was bonus point wins too. Silva was on another level though, straight buzzsaw.

Silva avenged his loss to Decatur at the Ironman with a big 4 point move late in the 3rd. Then he gave Lee his best match in Folkstyle I had ever seen prior to the knee injury and Desanto match. Lee won 7-4, but Silva was lighting on his feet getting in deep on Lee multiple times. How Lee fought those leg attacks off is amazing to me, just sensational hips.

Just a meteoric rise in skill level. The athleticism was obviously always there.
 
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That might be a considerable over-interpretation. Gavin's only public comment has been "God has a plan." That seems more sad and disappointed than angry or vengeful.

His father is the one who tweeted about clearing the house of PSU stuff and selling tickets -- which could just be his way of removing PSU from Gavin's mind ... well, as much as possible for someone who lives as hour away. (Though Mr. Hoffman also tweeted at a local reporter about Beard ducking Gavin, so the father might be a little tightly wound.)

About a month ago word was Gavin was down to PSU, Cornell, and Virginia. Maybe that'll expand, but I'll be surprised if he moves as far as Iowa. With Garrett at Bucknell (20 min from home), Gavin will likely go somewhere where the family can see both of them wrestle. Never say never, but I wouldn't get too excited.

One exception: if there's a farther from home wild card, don't rule out Stanford. There is a connection -- a very prominent alum lives in Montoursville and coaches at MHS. And Gavin is smart enough to go there.

The "God has a plan," quote gives me hope. TnT grew up on the edge of Sioux County, where every corner has a phone booth to heaven.
 
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The "God has a plan," quote gives me hope. TnT grew up on the edge of Sioux County, where every corner has a phone booth to heaven.
Then they'd better start using that phone if they want Hoffman, because Tan Tom got him yesterday, and Iowa wasn't in the final 5 schools.
 
Pissing off talented Pennsy high school wrestlers who want to wrestle for Penn State by bringing in more talented high school wrestlers who also want to wrestle for Penn State ... no wonder his program is on the verge of collapse!

Both Beard and Hoffman wrestle for PA high schools....
 
Why do you Penn State boys have to always chip in with stuff we already knew?
El dub set the bait and you got hooked.
I know you know it.

As for the other poster, I took him literally. If someone feels the need to act like he doesn't know something in order to bait others ... congratulations?
 
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I know you know it.

As for the other poster, I took him literally. If someone feels the need to act like he doesn't know something in order to bait others ... congratulations?

Thanks for the attempted cover minnihawkeye, but I'm just slow sometimes. Working quality control on a cannabis farm will do that to a person.:cool:

Nothing like quality control in my coffee roasterie, though. That job made me levitate, and not like those phony marharishi's who invaded the Iowa statehouse back in the day….
 
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