Making the tournament and winning a game is making "some" noise. Maybe not "a lot", but "some".
2019/2020 is the year
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5 years since our last Big Ten tourney win. 2013 was 5 years ago (or I suppose 6 "seasons")..........
Fran has defeated lowly Illinois (2012) and lowly Northwestern (2013) for his Big Ten tourney wins.
Yaaaay.....
Okay, I respect that opinion
Thank you
Oh ya, that's right. I had forgotten that we even won one during his WHOLE TENURE it's been so long, but now that you point it out, I remember
This program will never have a "single" savior,.... Weiskamp will be a piece of the puzzle....
The preseason rankings by the media and even Kenpom had us ranked 9th in the B1G. I guess the experts and the computers knew a thing or two...
That noted, I had us making a big step forward. Although like most I was skeptical of our guards. I didn't think Moss would be able to make the necessary step up, being his 3rd year and not a true sophomore he is what he is. And JBo is good, but needs more support if he is going to be forced to play the point.
The rest of the positions the team talent has covered. Just get me some guards! Crean or go home, I say.
Sadly, it's been 18 years and going to be 19 now since we made a sweet sixteen. 18! I'm starting to wonder if it's just Iowa bball at this point.
The assumptions built into the proposal that 2019-20 is "the year" are far, far from solid. Wieskamp is the one piece that does seem likely to be a good bet.
Without a significant upgrade in athleticism of the roster, most acutely at the point guard position, an improvement to the middle of the pack of the B1G (6th to 9th) is more likely than competing in the top 4 of the league.
Without a significant upgrade in athleticism of the roster, most acutely at the point guard position, an improvement to the middle of the pack of the B1G (6th to 9th) is more likely than competing in the top 4 of the league.
We definitely do, I think Carton or one of those other PG's we've offered is absolutely instrumental.
Next year or bust. Nobody can put up with this shit show for two more years.
Unless we are somehow worse next year, or there is attrition at the top, I highly doubt that Barta will fire Fran while his kids are still here or coming.
If you don't like it, don't buy a season ticket. There's always UNI you can root for.
If you don't like it, don't buy a season ticket. There's always UNI you can root for.
We won't be worse next year.
We still won't make the NCAA tournament.
Bend Over won't fire Fran.
I won't buy a season ticket.
GFY. I'll root for whomever I like.
Cook will be gone after next year. It would surprise me if he returns next year. Going to be a lot of his close people saying get to greener pastures.
Davis was 18 games over .500 in Big Ten play his first 3 years with Raveling recruits.
Davis was 3 games over .500 his last 10 years with his players. 4 if you count a 20 point loss that was later credited as a win.
Davis made the NCAA tournament 6 of 10 years with his recruits. I believe never higher than a 4 seed. One sweet 16.
I am not pro or con Davis. Just some history.
I am not pro or con Fran either but this season stinks. Going 2-7 in the Big ten tournament is bad and even worse when you consider Iowa has lost to the 10,11,12, and 13 seeds in the first round the last 4 years. Probably will never be duplicated.
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Apparently there's no difference between inheriting Armstrong, Marble, Horton, Lohaus and Gamble vs. Devyn Marble and Matt Gatens. Davis took over a title contender and was mediocre after his first 6 years. Fran took over a dumpster fire.
And to claim a team isn't young that plays one junior and no seniors in the top 7 rotation. Bizarre.
You don't want Barta making another basketball hire. It would be his third. Barta needs to be fired immediately.
Oh, I thought about that, and while I give Fran credit for digging the program out of a deep hole while Tom was handed a talented roster to begin with is valid...your assumption that Fran could've had the same success as Tom with those recruits is flawed.
At this juncture, Tom had earned our benefit of the doubt. Fran has done NOTHING to earn such benefit, IMO.
I'm almost ready to jump on the fire Fran at the end of the season bandwagon. The score of the current game (63-29 at home with 16:30 to go) not withstanding...but he is going to have to show he hasn't lost total control of his team. The players appear to have thrown in the towel on this season. Who's fault is that?
I never recall asking that question about Dr. Tom.
I could see this. The thing is losing Cook really doesn't matter either. He's no savior. He just looks more impressive compared to his teammates athletically. He's not a great basketball player. If he somehow transferred to a blue blood program he'd play less than he does at Iowa.
Next year might be a repeat dumpster fire. Waiting for 2019/2020 will take a lot of patience by Iowa fans and the results in 2019/2020 might not be the regional powerhouse type level.
Uhl, Ellingson, wagner, Moss, and Baer all have 3 or more years on campus. Cook, Bohannon, Pemsl all had extensive experience last year. Because Uhl, Ellingson, Wagner, and Moss are all below average B1G players makes Iowa depend on young players. The lack of upperclassmen that play is just testament to 3 years of poor recruiting by fran.
The Dumpster fire that Fran inherited is overstated. He inherited Gatens and Marble---i.e. two quality B1G players. Right now, Fran only has a couple quality B1G playes on this squad in Bohannon and Cook. I would agree Nunge/Gaza have some potential, but aren't quality B1G level players right now and they don't play the guard positions where our lack of talent is most striking.
If this team played even good defense then we would be 5-6 wins better. That is on Fran. Nonetheless, I don’t think this is a long term rebuilding job and I think Fran will make 2-3 moves in the off season to shore things up, including staff.
Weiskamp may not be a savior, but he is a large piece of what is missing, offensively, defensively and mentally. I’d bet good money we are an NCAA team next year.
Weiskamp may not be a savior, but he is a large piece of what is missing, offensively, defensively and mentally. I’d bet good money we are an NCAA team next year.
The fans within the fanbase who want more integrity (i.e. transparency) and wins are the bad guys. The people enabling the current situation are the good guys.
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If by "greener pastures" you mean the next level, that would be Europe. No way in hell he is NBA ready, not even close.
I think you are getting this wrong. I think those enabling the current situation, believe the fastest way to wins, is to not start over.
That's a heck of a team but I don't see carton coming in and starting right away, especially in front of Bohannon. It will also depend on how Patrick develops as to if he is a starter right away at small forward.
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