I think it's going to come down to whether or not Diggs takes that spot. I don't think Iowa's in a position to take 3 6'6/6'7 wings in 1 class. After the July live periods, Diggs should know all of the teams that are genuinely interested in him and I could see Iowa pressing him to make a decision one way or the other after that. They aren't going to want to drag this out indefinitely until the fall and risk losing both.
2024 Recruiting. Orig Post Updated Oct 2nd. 36 Offers So Far (incl. Chris Tadjo & Cooper Koch). 2 Scholarships Available (NOT counting PMac & Tony)
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It's been almost a year since our one and only commitment to date. Cooper Koch committed to Iowa on June 23, 2022.
Compared to the 2023 class: Fran had 2 commitments by June 23, 2022, but the final 2 commits took a while. Nevertheless, the 2023 class turned out pretty good, imo.
When they committed:
Oct 11, 2021: Owen Freeman
June 23, 2022: Brock Harding
Aug 6, 2022: Pryce Sandfort
Nov 16, 2022: Ladji Dembele
Compared to the 2023 class: Fran had 2 commitments by June 23, 2022, but the final 2 commits took a while. Nevertheless, the 2023 class turned out pretty good, imo.
When they committed:
Oct 11, 2021: Owen Freeman
June 23, 2022: Brock Harding
Aug 6, 2022: Pryce Sandfort
Nov 16, 2022: Ladji Dembele
Cooper committed far earlier than the last players, Because he commtted 1 1/2 years before he can sign his LOI.
now we get to wait to see who commits next, my hope
2-3 6'7 Cayden Diggs
4-5 6'10 Ngongba out of Virginia or
4-5 6'10 Bamgboye out of Arizona
best available player,
It would be nice if Fran could get Luke Bamgboye and Patrick Ngongba to visit. Lots of competition, however, for these 2 highly regarded prospects.
every player that Fran i recruiting is being recruited by the big boy's.
Koch dropped because he didn't have a blue blood offer to justify being in the top 100. this is the way with Rivals. if they don't commit to a school that rival suck up to.
now we will see if he can be another Murray or Garza, as both never had that blue blood offer ie Duke, UNC or Kentucky.
Koch dropped because he didn't have a blue blood offer to justify being in the top 100. this is the way with Rivals. if they don't commit to a school that rival suck up to.
now we will see if he can be another Murray or Garza, as both never had that blue blood offer ie Duke, UNC or Kentucky.
I think it's a wait and see right now. He continues to attract attention and offers.
Seton Hall and Oklahoma State are the latest Power 6 conference offers where he has yet to visit. Rivals does not report any visits set up at the moment.
I saw a Caden Diggs article from TOS with some interesting tidbits.
In summary:
Caden has averaged 15.1 points this summer while shooting 36% from three with the New World program on the Adidas 3SSB Circuit.
As expected, the official visit went well at Iowa.
Caden is talking with Oklahoma State and Seton Hall about setting up a visit.
After this live period, he's going to narrow things down. At the end of August, he's hoping to commit.
What he's looking for:
* Play-style. He likes to run, push in transition and play up and down. He likes a system that doesn’t have a lot of plays but a lot of quick sets and reads with some freedom.
* A place where he can fit in, including the community.
In summary:
Caden has averaged 15.1 points this summer while shooting 36% from three with the New World program on the Adidas 3SSB Circuit.
As expected, the official visit went well at Iowa.
Caden is talking with Oklahoma State and Seton Hall about setting up a visit.
After this live period, he's going to narrow things down. At the end of August, he's hoping to commit.
What he's looking for:
* Play-style. He likes to run, push in transition and play up and down. He likes a system that doesn’t have a lot of plays but a lot of quick sets and reads with some freedom.
* A place where he can fit in, including the community.
Smart move by him. Next weekend is going to be very big for him to earn a P6 offer.
The smarter move for Caden Wilkins might have been to move from the Barnstormers to D1 Minnesota much sooner than just now (ie, before the start of the AAU season).
The Marquette assistants who have seen him play in person have told Caden that the head coach (Shaka Smart) wants to see him play in person before Marquette potentially offers.
Tristan Spurlock isn't allowed to do any recruiting. It would be an NCAA violation for anyone other than the head coach and top 3 assistants to be involved in the recruiting process.
So either: a) you're wrong and Spurlock has very little to do w all this random activity in the DMV; or b) Iowa is blatantly committing a recruiting violation.
That's no longer really true. D1 schools can always have 4 coaches out at a time on live recruiting weekends and if Fran or one of the assistants is sick or cannot make it out that weekend the university can designate another member of the staff (Spurlock). There's also nothing against the rules of Spurlock talking with recruits once they are on campus. Diggs actually thanked Spurlock personally in his post-visit tweet (along with Eldridge).
You're also acting as if recruiting isn't all about social politics and relationships, particularly in basketball. AAU coaches often dictate where kids go more often than not (which is sad, but is what it is). So if Spurlock has personal relationships with DMV area coaches, that helps Iowa get their foot in the door even if he isn't the one that is recruiting them directly.
Remember, Eldridge wasn't a full-time assistant until last year and had Spurlock's role previously (plus some additional responsibilities). He was the one who took Fran to see Dasonte Bowen early on and he had a long-term friendship with Bowen's father. Even though Eldridge could not recruit Dasonte directly for a majority of that recruitment, it would be dumb to state that he didn't have a direct hand in that.
You may be right, I just know quite recently the rules as I stated were accurate.
I did some digging and the new rules are quite byzantine and needlessly complex. But it does say: "The Council supported an increase of two coaches in men's and women's basketball. These additional coaches may engage in coaching activities but may not recruit off campus." I'm assuming you're intelligent enough to identify the key sentence in that passage.
NCAA Division I Council modernizes rules for coaching limits
The Division I Council took steps to modernize a number of rules Wednesday, including approving adjustments to transfer waiver guidelines, modifying personnel rules across several sports and formally eliminating the requirement for standardized test scores in initial eligibility. The Council met...
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The rules were changed during covid that when a coach is unable to attend during a live period, the university can designate another staff member to fill in for them. Indiana sends out grad assistants all the time during these live periods because Woodson is fairly lazy on the recruiting front. That's how I know the rule because I follow Big Ten recruiting fairly closely. I don't think Spurlock has been out this year, but they certainly used this rule some when Eldridge was in a similar position.You may be right, I just know quite recently the rules as I stated were accurate.
I did some digging and the new rules are quite byzantine and needlessly complex. But it does say: "The Council supported an increase of two coaches in men's and women's basketball. These additional coaches may engage in coaching activities but may not recruit off campus." I'm assuming you're intelligent enough to identify the key sentence in that passage.
NCAA Division I Council modernizes rules for coaching limits
The Division I Council took steps to modernize a number of rules Wednesday, including approving adjustments to transfer waiver guidelines, modifying personnel rules across several sports and formally eliminating the requirement for standardized test scores in initial eligibility. The Council met...
It still doesn't change the fact that Spurlock seems to have good relationships with the DMV area AAU teams which even if he isn't directly involved in recruiting until they get to campus can still have influence.
All good points. I clearly don't follow recruiting news as closely as you. You would know better. I just know how the old rules existed back when my dad was a D1 coach out east.
I originally got into this thread saying all the manpower directed out east is an absolute waste of time. And an awful recruiting strategy. I'll admit if I'm wrong, time will tell I guess. But I stand by that original assertion: not a single one of these dudes comes out here. Mark it.
And this ain't nothing against Spurlock. I love his enthusiasm on the sidelines. But no high-level recruit is going to a school bc he has some sort of relationship w a third-rate assistant staff member in like his second year of coaching.
You forgot option C where you state that it would be you who is wrong & have no idea what you are talking about
I don't think there's any question that Spurlock has personal connections with DMV coaches; the result has been 8 recent offers to prospects from the DMV.
One example of Spurlock's personal relationships with DMV coaches -- Dennis is an AAU coach and he shares his Iowa thoughts here:
Because of his DMV connections, Spurlock had a huge role in getting Caden Diggs (from the DMV) to visit on June 14, 2023.
Here are the 8 recent offers to prospects from the DMV:
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I love the connections Fran has made on the East coast. Because of Eldridge, we have a great Boston connection.
What follows was from the October 9, 2021 Iowa/Penn State football game. Caleb Middleton (2024 PF), TJ Power (2023), Dasonte Bowen (2022), Josh Ogundele (2020) & Iowa Assistant Coach Courtney Eldridge (1998) are all part of the BABC (Boston Amateur Basketball Club).
We obviously didn't land TJ and it appears that interest in Middleton has fizzled, but we got them to visit with a lot of help from the Eldridge/Boston connection. As you scroll down, you will see the tweet from the BABC.
The Boston guys, From Left to Right:
Caleb Middleton (6'10, Class of 2024 PF)
Courtney Eldridge, Iowa Director of Recruiting
Dasonte Bowen
TJ Power
Josh Ogundele
LMAO. From the NCAA's own website: "The Council supported an increase of two coaches in men's and women's basketball. These additional coaches may engage in coaching activities but may not recruit off campus."
NCAA Division I Council modernizes rules for coaching limits
The Division I Council took steps to modernize a number of rules Wednesday, including approving adjustments to transfer waiver guidelines, modifying personnel rules across several sports and formally eliminating the requirement for standardized test scores in initial eligibility. The Council met...
www.google.com
Spurlocks' spot was one of the two coaching additions under these new rules, was it not? Therefore, he can't recruit off campus.... Which means you're greatly exaggerating any influence the dude may have.
So Kendall Marshall's father made a tweet. WOW, stop the presses. The same Mr. Marshall who played the race card when his son was benched in the NBA. Come at me if/when I'm wrong. But not a single one of these dudes will commit.
Spurlock is 3rd rate? Yikes.
Ok, so we have you down for thinking Iowa does not land any of these prospects who were recently offered:
Spurlock is 3rd rate? Yikes.
Ok, so we have you down for thinking Iowa does not land any of these prospects who were recently offered:
Yes, you have that "down." I'm humble enough to admit when I'm wrong. We shall see.
And you conveniently ignore my praise for Spurlock in the first sentence of that paragraph. I clearly said I like the dude.
But he's currently a backbencher (one year on staff, very little coaching experience). Right down there w ****in Kyle Denning. The dude holds minimal influence at this point, esp in recruiting.
"Hey everybody, I'm committing to Iowa bc their fifth or sixth assistant was buddies with my AAU coach like 15 years ago!!" **** outta here man 🤦🏻♂️
If Spurlock (with DMV ties) has no influence, then why is Caden Diggs (from the DMV) thanking him in this tweet? Sounds like influence to me.
Let's face it; the only exaggerations are coming from you.
"Thank you for the hospitality." As in, Eldridge and Spurlock were essentially his chauffeurs for the visit. He had to thank someone, obviously it would be the dudes who took him around campus. What, do you think this is like "He Got Game" where hookers show you around? I'm not sure you know how the recruiting process works. Sorry.
And thanking someone in a damn tweet is miles away from actually coming here to play. MILES. If this kid commits, then we can look back and see it meant something. Right now, it's no different than the 5-6 similar tweets this same kid will send after visiting the other schools.
You're humble?
Good grief, talk about greatly exaggerating. We all know prospects commit to a school because of the head coach but that doesn't discount the work that the assistants do to get prospects interested.
Yet you're still posting nonsense.
LOL
I never mentioned anything on whether or not he'd commit to Iowa. You, however, said Spurlock had no influence and I am just pointing out that you were WRONG AGAIN.
Sperlock is IA's director of Player Development
Denning is the director of Basketball Operations
so neither is a coach in the sense of what a coach is.
Denning is the director of Basketball Operations
so neither is a coach in the sense of what a coach is.
Thank you!
All these dudes are acting like Spurlock has some sort of massive influence over recruiting. And I know for a fact Denning is nothing more than a glorified secretary who basically does office work... but hell, maybe we should start sending him out on the road too. Maybe snag some of those bigtime prospects out in western iowa 🤦🏻♂️
who's that? from what I heard Spurlock was out there for personal reasons also Diggs is considering Iowa, Digg's Would be a nice replacement for Perkins,
Very interesting that you 2 geniuses are on the same wave length.
Dang; I might have to rethink whether recruiting on the East coast is a good idea or not....
Or not....
Well, I am the one dude on here who grew up out there. So I sorta know what it's like better than a lifelong Midwesterner.
Plus my dad recruited at this level for like 20 years. So I also kinda sorta know how that works too.
then why have these from the East Commtted to IA
Toussaint NYC
Garza Washington DC
Bowen Boston
Dembele NJ
Mulvey Rotterdaum, NY
IA has as good a chance as any one in getting any of these player since Fran is from Philly and has connections on the East Coast.. for all your knowledge of the East Coast I am confused by your lack of knowledge about that fact.
Elkridge has his connection in the Boston area.
each of Fran's assistant coaches have connections to key recruiting areas.
Gatens for the Iowa and Illinois area
Eldrige for the East Coast NY, NJ, MA and the surrounding areas
Dillard for the Midwest. IN, OH, MI and in the southern states.
Fran Philadelphia and the surrounding area, and going to AAU events across the country. Fran is looking all across the country for players to play for his team.
this could be his break out season
with this class of 4 4* players being FR and only losing 3 players in these
4* top 100 Patrick
3* Perkins
4* top 100 Krikke by 247
he already has 4* top 100 Koch by ESPN and 247 as Rivals Just dropped him out of there top 100 because he does norhave a elite offer. this is the Rivals way with every IA recruit,
Garza couldn't even get a top 100 rating as the best he could get was a #111 4*,
Koch has dropped from #72 to #109.
this the Rivals way for IA BB and FB recruits,
Yes sir.
PMac has indicated this is his final year. Tony has not indicated anything yet as far as I know on whether he will use his free covid year. Until he does, I am assuming this is his last year & that we have 3 scholarships currently available for the Class of 2024.
Where things stand right now:
Current Roster (12 currently on scholarship; 1 Scholarship Available):
2027 (when scheduled to graduate): 4 players
6'10" C Owen Freeman
6'0" PG Brock Harding
6'7" PF Pryce Sandfort
6'8" PF Ladji Dembele
2026 (when scheduled to graduate): 2 players
6'3" PG Dasonte Bowen
6'5" SG Josh Dix
2025 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'7" F Payton Sandfort
6'11" C Riley Mulvey
6'9" F/C Even Brauns--a Belmont transfer and Iowa City (IC West High School) native. On May 8, 2023, Iowa officially announced that Even had signed with the Hawks. He has 2 years eligibility remaining.
2024 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'4" G Tony Perkins
6'9" SF Patrick McCaffery (****); on May 29, 2020, Patrick received approval for a medical hardship after playing in just 2 games in the 2019-2020 season, giving him 4 years of college eligibility (through 2024).
6'9" F Ben Krikke. On April 10, 2023, Ben, who had played 4 seasons at Valparaiso and had graduated, announced he would be transferring to Iowa. Because of the covid "free year," he had one year eligibility remaining.
4 Notable Walk on players:
2027 (when scheduled to graduate): 1 player
Amarion Nimmers--a 2022 6'3" combo guard; on April 30, 2022, it was announced he would be joining the roster as a preferred walk on. On Nov 14, 2022, it was announced that Amarion would redshirt during the 2022-2023 season so he is now scheduled to graduate in 2027.
2026 (when scheduled to graduate): 1 player
Carter Kingsbury--a 2021 6'5", 230 lb shooting guard; on July 10, 2021, it was announced he would be joining the roster as a preferred walk on. Carter ended up redshirting the 2021-2022 season so he is now scheduled to graduate in 2026.
2025 (when scheduled to graduate): 1 player
Luc Laketa--a 2021 6'6" wing/forward; on May 13, 2021, it was announced he would be joining the roster as a preferred walk on.
2024 (when scheduled to graduate): 1 player
Dante Eldridge (assistant coach Courtney Eldridge's son)--has played 2 years (through 2022) in college, first at William Penn & then Kirkwood CC; a 5'9"combo guard; on May 5, 2022, it was announced that he would be joining the Iowa roster as a walk on.
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You're by far my favorite commenter on here. So no way ima pick a fight w you. We might disagree about random iowa basketball bs. But we're 100% on the same page when it comes to racial propaganda. And that's more important than anything else lmao.
just trying to keep you from embarrassing yourself.
