26 UI student-athletes are being investigated for online gambling, incl in Wrestling, Men’s Basketball, Football, Baseball, Men’s track & field

[Franisdaman]

75% of college students have placed some kind of bet within the last year.

A Virginia Tech football player was suspended 9 games for self-reporting legal betting on the NBA (it was an NCAA violation, of course). The suspension was reduced to 6 games on appeal.

Is that strict punishment still tenable?

"It creates an enormous disincentive for people to come forward before they’re caught."


Some more excerpts from the linked article above:

 

[IAChief32]

I don’t lay down bets but it’s kind of screwy that young people who are of legal age get dinged for betting on sports that are totally unrelated to their own sport or even their school.

 

[Cradle_king27]

I don’t lay down bets but it’s kind of screwy that young people who are of legal age get dinged for betting on sports that are totally unrelated to their own sport or even their school.

Makes 0 sense.

I’d like to know why Iowa and Iowa state were targeted. You know this is going on everywhere.

 

[grapplefann]

I don’t lay down bets but it’s kind of screwy that young people who are of legal age get dinged for betting on sports that are totally unrelated to their own sport or even their school.

What's screwy to me is that we have online gambling for college sports at all. But I'm so old-fashioned that I'd like to see the legal age for everything (cept driving) raised to 21, so take that with a grain of salt.

 

[Trapper85]

Makes 0 sense.

I’d like to know why Iowa and Iowa state were targeted. You know this is going on everywhere.

I assume because it was initiated by the Iowa Gaming Commission. Wasn't the NCAA, as far as I recall.

 

[Franisdaman]

Makes 0 sense.

I’d like to know why Iowa and Iowa state were targeted. You know this is going on everywhere.

someone might have tipped them off or a name might have looked familiar to someone and they looked further into it.

4 of the 26 are baseball players; the other 22 could be wrestlers, football players, men's basketball players or men's track & field athletes.

the 4 baseball players have been named and have missed 4 games so far.

i hope the investigation goes quickly so that any proposed suspensions can then be appealed

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[eb05]

fancy mineo said on his podcast that some “important” wrestlers on next years team are involved for iowa. this is a good sign that the entire wrestling team will be cleared of wrongdoing.

 

[hlstone]

fancy mineo said on his podcast that some “important” wrestlers on next years team are involved for iowa. this is a good sign that the entire wrestling team will be cleared of wrongdoing.

Right. Never know if that guy is sharing info or spreading lies about Iowa.

 

[IamHawkeye]

I assume because it was initiated by the Iowa Gaming Commission. Wasn't the NCAA, as far as I recall.

ISU coach said is it just an iowa thing? When are the Ohio people (etc) going to show up? My thoughts exactly. If gambling is so all over where are the other state agencies.?

 

[PinDoxRico]

I don’t lay down bets but it’s kind of screwy that young people who are of legal age get dinged for betting on sports that are totally unrelated to their own sport or even their school.

It is asinine and I wonder why and who is gaining from it when something so stupid comes up.

Someone needs to go check out Penn State with that Micah Parsons dude from the Cowboys always fanboying for them.

 

[mcpat]

It is asinine and I wonder why and who is gaining from it when something so stupid comes up.

Someone needs to go check out Penn State with that Micah Parsons dude from the Cowboys always fanboying for them.

“The gambling stuff is asinine. These student-athletes are being treated unfairly over it.”

But go investigate our rivals’ wrestlers for it???

 

[PinDoxRico]

“The gambling stuff is asinine. These student-athletes are being treated unfairly over it.”

But go investigate our rivals’ wrestlers for it???

Lol I was being facetious.

However…. If one were to bet on the NFL, it’s not like being down with Micah Parsons would be a disadvantage by any means!

 

[aije]

I don’t lay down bets but it’s kind of screwy that young people who are of legal age get dinged for betting on sports that are totally unrelated to their own sport or even their school.

It might go back to the idea that an athlete could run up debts they couldn't pay and then that could be used as leverage for having them throw or otherwise compromise games/matches in which they are involved.

 

[IAChief32]

It might go back to the idea that an athlete could run up debts they couldn't pay and then that could be used as leverage for having them throw or otherwise compromise games/matches in which they are involved.

Sure but that was also back in the day when it was illegal and one used a bookie.

 

[el dub]

Sure but that was also back in the day when it was illegal and one used a bookie.

Gambling debit still exists. No?

 

[HawkeyeInKC]

What's screwy to me is that we have online gambling for college sports at all. But I'm so old-fashioned that I'd like to see the legal age for everything (cept driving) raised to 21, so take that with a grain of salt.

Does this include military?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Gambling debit still exists. No?

Only if you're a degenerate gambler.......................

 

[GogglesPaizano]

On the record before the investigation is complete.

1). Betting on professional sports (including fantasy football for crying out loud) despite the risk of an athlete becoming compromised to the pressures of a bookie and his baseball bat enforcer cousin Guido. Where said cousin Guido gives the choice of paying up, broken knee caps, or taking a dive in the next wrestling match. This scenario sounds conspiratorial, but lacking evidence of betting through an organized crime organization, I don't see this as a legit concern.

No penalty, the NCAA should not have jurisdiction in this space. If any Iowa/Iowa St wrestlers get suspended for this I call bull shit! Atheletes should be treated the same as the general student body.

2). Betting on collegiate sports different from the atheletes sport- certainly the opportunity for collusion amongst atheletes cross sport on the same campus exists, thus compromising the integrity of NCAA competition. Low dollar betting on events between other universities should have a reasonable penalty, but not draconian. If a wrestler is caught betting even a couple hundred dollars on a match madness pool or the NCAA championship football game the penalty should be minimal - maybe a couple of matches.

3). Betting on NCAA sports from the same university or tied to the same sport as the athelete. Should carry the most severe penalties, in proportion to the totally of the evidence, dollar amounts, cousin, etc ...

 

[ping72]

Gambling debit still exists. No?

Yep. Just like student loan and credit card debt.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

Gambling debit still exists. No?

I guess, if one uses their bank's checking account card as their payment method in FanDuel.

 

[bourbon n blues]

Gambling debit still exists. No?

In Pa you can't use a credit card to gamble, just debit.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

In Pa you can't use a credit card to gamble, just debit.

I did not know that. Kudos to @el dub's funny. Learned something new.

 

[bourbon n blues]

I guess, if one uses their bank's checking account card as their payment method in FanDuel.

From what I understand this gambling issue in Iowa came about because they believed underage people were doing it

Since these apps have a link to your debit card bank account, it's pretty easy to see who's been doing it. So they check their age and then they could see whether or not they did it legitimately and of course they're gonna see who did it.

If it's an NCAA athlete, that's a problem for the athlete. I really haven't thought enough about this issue to have a well-informed opinion, but I believe it's pretty dumb to do something you're not supposed to do by using a method that could be easily tracked.

Buy a football card from a local bookie like a normal person and play five or $10 bet trying to win 50 or 100 and give them cash. That's so hard to prove and is about a safe as can be , doing it online is just silly if you're restricted from it in any legal way.

 

[bourbon n blues]

I did not know that. Kudos to @el dub's funny. Learned something new.

Every now and then I will buy a Powerball ticket and I use my debit card to pay for three or six dollar ticket, you can't use a credit card.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

Every now and then I will buy a Powerball ticket and I use my debit card to pay for three or six dollar ticket, you can't use a credit card.

I don't gamble at casinos or online. Only friendly wagers with friends for a future meal or with others for a charitable donation. I think my mentality is either an aversion to gambling from visualizing lots being cast for Jesus' stuff as he was hanging on the cross, or I just don't want to give money away easier than it took me to get it, having grown up in a household of limited means.

Just reading more about it. FanDuel takes credit card deposits. Not sure whether somehow a deposit might differ from an actual bet in PA or elsewhere that might prohibit credit card use for betting.

 

[82bordeaux]

From what I understand this gambling issue in Iowa came about because they believed underage people were doing it

The good news is, that would rule out Real Woods and Big Tone.

 

[el dub]

In Pa you can't use a credit card to gamble, just debit.

Damn auto erect.

 

[bourbon n blues]

I don't gamble at casinos or online. Only friendly wagers with friends for a future meal or with others for a charitable donation. I think my mentality is either an aversion to gambling from visualizing lots being cast for Jesus' stuff as he was hanging on the cross, or I just don't want to give money away easier than it took me to get it, having grown up in a household of limited means.

Just reading more about it. FanDuel takes credit card deposits. Not sure whether somehow a deposit might differ from an actual bet in PA or elsewhere that might prohibit credit card use for betting.

Is it actual credit cards or is it a debit card that can be used either way?

 

[ping72]

Damn auto erect.

 

[ZepGraffiti]

Is it actual credit cards or is it a debit card that can be used either way?

I think credit cards aren't allowed to purchase PA Lottery stuff [daily #'s, lotto, powerball, etc].

But they can be used to deposit on DraftKings, etc and I think you can use them at casinos for cash advances?
BTW: you can't bet on college sports on DraftKings in PA.

 

[bourbon n blues]

I think credit cards aren't allowed to purchase PA Lottery stuff [daily #'s, lotto, powerball, etc].

But they can be used to deposit on DraftKings, etc and I think you can use them at casinos for cash advances?
BTW: you can't bet on college sports on DraftKings in PA.

Thanks

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

Is it actual credit cards or is it a debit card that can be used either way?

Actual Visa credit cards, is how I read it, in addition to debit cards.

 

[pawrestler4life]

I think credit cards aren't allowed to purchase PA Lottery stuff [daily #'s, lotto, powerball, etc].

But they can be used to deposit on DraftKings, etc and I think you can use them at casinos for cash advances?
BTW: you can't bet on college sports on DraftKings in PA.

I’ve bet on college sports on DraftKings in PA. Unless this just changed very recently

 

[ZepGraffiti]

I’ve bet on college sports on DraftKings in PA. Unless this just changed very recently

You're probably right. The only time I tried was a couple years ago [college football] and couldn't. Mainly stick to the DFS section and haven't been on Sportsbook since, so I should backpedal on that part.

 

[grapplefann]

Does this include military?

Yeah, I think so, but that's tough to implement. I could compromise by raising everything to 19 or 20 instead.

 

[Franisdaman]

The NCAA will conduct a separate student-athlete-only survey in the coming months (as if they will answer honestly).

Click on the link in the tweet to read the whole story.

 

[el dub]

The NCAA will conduct a separate student-athlete-only survey in the coming months (as if they will answer honestly).

Click on the link in the tweet to read the whole story.

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So, every guy and 16% of womens in that cohort have made bets?

 

[ChiPackHawk]

I don’t lay down bets but it’s kind of screwy that young people who are of legal age get dinged for betting on sports that are totally unrelated to their own sport or even their school.

In the "old days" when you had to use a bookie it made more sense. Because if you lost you could become in debt to the bookie, who may have had ties to organized crime. Now with things like Draft Kings and Fan Duel, it is quite a bit more distant. Though if you are an athlete that has the potential to be involved in a game that may be listed by a sportsbook of any type, I can see where there is potential for problems. Get too far in debt from football wagers, miss a few shots, over throw the 1st baseman, get caught in a cradle - the possibilities are endless.

 

[HawkFan1986]

Imo this whole thing is stupid and a waste of time if they didn’t bet on events they were involved in. Gambling is legal in Iowa, if they didn’t bet on games or events they were in then what the hell are we talking about. Witch hunt.