They are in the process of cutting the head off the snake. If you can’t see this as a positive I’m not sure what to tell ya Joe.
33% of republicans are MAGA
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No; they are not
They are looking for another head for the Hydra. They are not rejecting the "MAGA" principles, at all. Desantis is all-in with it. Rejecting that political movement means finding someone who rejects the basis of the movement.
What is "woke?". You wingnuts use the term constantly. What does it mean? I'll wager you'll look up the definition before you respond.
Yes they are haha. Trump is the MAGA movement, you take him out of the Republican movement and they hopefully*** move towards the center and stop entertaining these crazy alt right types. They become the right wing of old which looks like a shitty social conservative movement at the moment.
I really hope you are right.
But what has Kevin McCarthy (as an example) said or done to suggest you are right? What about CPAC and TPUSA and the MAGA ecosystem. This has become bigger than one guy.
Desantis is not remotely a "move towards the center". You know this, but you'll continue to pretend it's the 'new center'
It is not.
I agree but it takes time to kill a populist movement. I think at some point the right will revert back to the norm. I mean we are seeing the rejection of Trump as a candidate after an embarrassing mid term. A lot can change tho by 2024, specifically who comes out of no where for the nomination and what the RNC will be pushing
Yes; when they quit inviting dictators and fascists to CPAC, don't hold it in fascist countries, and denounce those who discredit "woke" laws (going by the GOP's lawyers own definition of woke here), then they'll be shifting away from Trumpism and MAGA.
Anti-woke = fascism and bigotry (again, going by what GOP lawyers asserted "woke" means)
It's not a "populist" movement, when it is directed by ultra-rich people who are exploiting it to keep their own tax liabilities low.
The sooner the rank-and-file GOP voters realize this, the more they will recognize their interests align with moderate Democrats.
What are you talking about Joe haha. I said “hopefully” move towards the center.
I never brought up Ronny D as I am not sure who the poster child will be for the republicans. Weird shit always happens during the primary season and a couple of candidates come out of no where
The MAGA movement is completely a populist movement. Do you not remember 2016 and all the articles and stories on how it is and why it is dangerous?
You can do a quick google search into this and find out you are wrong. It’s ok to admit when you are wrong Joe.
Fair.
I just wish the “rejection” of Trump and MAGA wasn’t just because he is now seen as a drag at the ballot box. By that standard, had Lake and Oz and Mastriano and Walker won, would the GOP even be considering abandoning Trump? I doubt it.
It's not a "populist" movement, when it is run and organized by rich donors.
Use your brain here.
Also we we could see evidence that they are moving back to the center vs just pushing him aside for less toxic options with the same beliefs.
I submit that the message is now the party message / approach, they just need to word it in a more palatable fashion. This is why I think some large portion are on board and the other 40% just go with the majority. The "I had no option" crew can now step up and admit "this is what I like", they also don't have to be uncomfortable with the presenter.
And I doubt it as well, if they'd had more Ws, he'd be the hero.
Nope. The way the studied defined it was “anyone who voted for Trump in 2020 AND believes the 2020 Prez election was stolen”.
Oh, I know...I was referring to in general.... that's still the majority of Republicans
You really think that if trump walked away the republican party would go back to normal. DeSantis is the same or worse than trump.
This is not going away too soon. I know because I have a relative who's all in MAGA. For the last 15-20 years she's complained about being screwed over and wanting a revolution. trump validated her thoughts and now those thoughts are stronger and will never go away (until death). As long as republicans keep feeding her a candidate for her to latch on to, she will continue to be a "MAGA" even if trump isn't around. She will never change her mind at this point for the rest of her life. The problem is, there's about 30% of the people just like her (along with the republican politicians).
The birth of MAGA was the Tea Party bullshit when Obama got elected, so that thinking has already morphed once and will again
Ummm....it also saves money on the electricity bill
17% of democrats are socialists, 100% are complicit.
Democratic Socialism and Socialism Are Increasingly Salient Among Democrats
Democratic voters are more closely aligned with democratic socialism and socialism than with capitalism, though capitalism retains strong topline support.
www.dataforprogress.org
It's a crazy game isn't it.
17% of democrats are socialists, 100% are complicit.
Democratic Socialism and Socialism Are Increasingly Salient Among Democrats
Democratic voters are more closely aligned with democratic socialism and socialism than with capitalism, though capitalism retains strong topline support.
It's a crazy game isn't it.
Dems are cult members.
The game is played so easily. All you have to do is lump everyone in with the most extreme group and give them an unflattering label!
Go team!
The term is "Fascist" not "MAGA"
How a divided America, including the 15% who are ‘MAGA Republicans,’ splits on QAnon, racism and armed patrols at polling places
There have been several studies in recent years, with different designs, methodologies and measures of violence.studyfinds.org
15% of America are MAGA.
So I guess this is good because it is lower then I thought but it is still wayyyyyy too high.
People like Shapiro should not be giving freedom of speech or press or anything.
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