I can't wait until Al Sharpton and the SharpTones show up at the courthouse demanding justice and a blank check.They'll probably settle and he'll end up with some money, just not the $1 million promised
I can't wait until Al Sharpton and the SharpTones show up at the courthouse demanding justice and a blank check.They'll probably settle and he'll end up with some money, just not the $1 million promised
Ticket sales and tv ratings suggest otherwise when it comes to football.Essentially the reason college sports was authentic, pure and fun has gone away for most of us anyway...
I am sorry if you believe that I have land to sell you. Do you not realize that now the "bag men" are merely able to come out of the shadows. This crap has been going on forever.Essentially the reason college sports was authentic, pure and fun has gone away for most of us anyway...
harvard, MIT, Cal Tech are all rolling in the cash right now.For starters only the rich white schools are getting the funding for big NIL payouts.
I certainly don't disagree with that sentiment. It felt good watching Iowa teams that you knew were pretty clean and followed the rules beat a team like O$U, guess those days are over. The whole unlimited money and players transferring 5 times in a 4 year period leave a real sour taste in my mouth. JMO...I am sorry if you believe that I have land to sell you. Do you not realize that now the "bag men" are merely able to come out of the shadows. This crap has been going on forever.
They are getting paid.When coaches are making millions, universities are selling jerseys that represent players, and injuries. I will never understand why people are ok with the workers not getting paid for the product.
Not "likely", it is worse. Most of the degrees are bullshite other than if you re going medical.Any of the non-NFL kids stand to make more from NIL than with their 'sports studies' degrees. Not to mention the job market for college grads is likely worse than 2008/2009.
When a CEO makes 25million and the entry level worker that develops new code generates money, they don't get paid the same as the CEO, they have to work to get to the top and earn as they go. 1st year non-starters getting 8 figures is asinine.When the university has revenue of 86 million from the football program, with 37 million of that being net profit. None of the NIL money comes from the university either, so I don't understand why you people are so butt hurt over this.
I don't recall any of the current or past players being held at gunpoint to play any athletics, IRCC it isa choice. I have seen their schedules, and I can tell you they are busy, but they also have a TON of assistance, something far beyond what the average student (hell even the band members) that is working 3 jobs and going to school FT doesn't get without paying for it.you should look at a student athletes schedule to tell me they aren't workers. I am all for this becoming a straight minor league system and moving away from the university. We are not forced to pay for NIL, so I will never understand why people act as though this is a big deal. Many of these athletes come from zero means, this is their one opportunity to exploit their talents.
Hey, no political BS here!! Oh wait.Big money means big lawsuits. Big money means big lies and corruption.
So it goes ....
Yep, those white schools with 75% of their players a minority...For starters only the rich white schools are getting the funding for big NIL payouts.
With the super conferences and a new playoff format, that may end up being D1 football in 2 years.Ticket sales and tv ratings suggest otherwise when it comes to football.
Basketball was sliding before nil because nothing matters until March.
Doubt it. Tailgating /Gameday is a huge part of why people love football you can’t do that for basketball.With the super conferences and a new playoff format, that may end up being D1 football in 2 years.
Your clouding the issue, (for most of us anyway). I have NO issue with a player being paid for their NIL, (like what Clark did). THAT is NIL. High school kids getting the "bag o cash" before they have ever played a game has absolutely ZERO to do with NIL, and needs to be stopped or this will never be sustainable, especially when a kid can just hit the portal, and get his next bag from the next school, (see Proctor).....When coaches are making millions, universities are selling jerseys that represent players, and injuries. I will never understand why people are ok with the workers not getting paid for the product.
AGAIN, this is NOT NIL. This is "bag o cash" and is still not legit.....
Because what we are discussing in this thread is NOT NIL, and I'll give you credit for being smart enough to understand the difference......When the university has revenue of 86 million from the football program, with 37 million of that being net profit. None of the NIL money comes from the university either, so I don't understand why you people are so butt hurt over this.
IF we were talking about NIL that would be one thing. Thats not whats going on in most cases. These kids are being given $$ for signing a LOI. Thats NOT NIL. What part of this do you not understand?you should look at a student athletes schedule to tell me they aren't workers. I am all for this becoming a straight minor league system and moving away from the university. We are not forced to pay for NIL, so I will never understand why people act as though this is a big deal. Many of these athletes come from zero means, this is their one opportunity to exploit their talents.
I am not the one making the deal, this is exactly what happened at A&M with their NIL deals, many weren't paid out. All it takes is one class that costs 20 million + for those boosters to not throw in those chunks of money.They are getting paid.
How about when they get "hired" and don't have the revenue generation that they signed for, do they then have to pay back the funds? Or do they get paid the 13million regardless? This should all be a "commission" job for them. If they want a guarantee, then go the scholarship route and play the damn game.
When coaches are making millions, universities are selling jerseys that represent players, and injuries. I will never understand why people are ok with the workers not getting paid for the product.
Napier is going to get busted for what he did here, especially if there is any proof to the initial million.IF we were talking about NIL that would be one thing. Thats not whats going on in most cases. These kids are being given $$ for signing a LOI. Thats NOT NIL. What part of this do you not understand?
What a stupid take. A lot of students work long hours to help pay for college. And they don't get all the help the athletes do. Plus they end up in debt.you should look at a student athletes schedule to tell me they aren't workers. I am all for this becoming a straight minor league system and moving away from the university. We are not forced to pay for NIL, so I will never understand why people act as though this is a big deal. Many of these athletes come from zero means, this is their one opportunity to exploit their talents.
Everyone knew this was going to happen, and it will balance itself out at some point. I will say, a salary cap is not the solution, nor will it ever actually work.If athletes were only being paid for jerseys, personal gear or endorsements, as was the original intention of NIL, great. Unfortunately, like many progressive changes that are rushed into practice without the proper planning, support and regulation, NIL has been completely bastardized. It’s been abused into something it was never supposed to be. It’s as if people didn’t think it would happen….that we’ve never seen anything like this happen before.
Straight to the ad hominem attacks, but I would expect nothing different. If you are playing football without a scholarship, I would strongly suggest you find something else to do, the wear and tear on your body alone. please point to me the athletes that have a professional future that are not given a full ride either through the university or NIL.What a stupid take. A lot of students work long hours to help pay for college. And they don't get all the help the athletes do. Plus they end up in debt.
You really don't get it do you. Of course we all know you are only on this board to argue, because you sure don't say anything intelligent.
When the university has revenue of 86 million from the football program, with 37 million of that being net profit. None of the NIL money comes from the university either, so I don't understand why you people are so butt hurt over this.
What? I didn't say anything about playing without a scholarship. Do you even read a post before saying something stupid.Straight to the ad hominem attacks, but I would expect nothing different. If you are playing football without a scholarship, I would strongly suggest you find something else to do, the wear and tear on your body alone. please point to me the athletes that have a professional future that are not given a full ride either through the university or NIL.
You are discussing a normal student, that is not forced to go into debt, I am discussing NIL deals for students. You should probably learn to stay on topic here. If you want to discuss student debt, it seems like an off topic board topic.What? I didn't say anything about playing without a scholarship. Do you even read a post before saying something stupid.
LOL. No I didn't say anything about a normal student not being forced to go into debt. I compared an athlete with a nonathlete who is forced to work long hours when YOU brought up the workload of a FB player.You are discussing a normal student, that is not forced to go into debt, I am discussing NIL deals for students. You should probably learn to stay on topic here. If you want to discuss student debt, it seems like an off topic board topic.
You are correct, cheaters have been around a long time. It doesn't make it right, it's still being manipulated and in the end the college game will cease to exist in this environment, IMHOI am sorry if you believe that I have land to sell you. Do you not realize that now the "bag men" are merely able to come out of the shadows. This crap has been going on forever.
Not into the NIL like the other rich white schoolsharvard, MIT, Cal Tech are all rolling in the cash right now.
And that means what? Does it help the Grambling State's, Alabama A&M's, Howard University's, and dozens of others? Nope.Yep, those white schools with 75% of their players a minority...
The school should not be selling the players name/image/likeness. That should be left to the players to sell themselves. When the schools have income of 80 million or more they don’t need to do that. Especially when they have coaches making 7 and 8 figure salaries. Or they are still paying millions to 1or more coaches who no longer coach there. Where the hell does the money grab end?With that in mind, could an athlete be censored on tv until either the network or university agree to pay for their name/image/likeness in a broadcast? This is likely covered in some sort of ncaa bylaw but we all know how poorly run that organization is. (Example, I have to sign a waiver for school/daycare to use my children's image in any social media or promotional material)
Depends man. Are they using the school logo / uni / name, etc?The school should not be selling the players name/image/likeness. That should be left to the players to sell themselves. When the schools have income of 80 million or more they don’t need to do that. Especially when they have coaches making 7 and 8 figure salaries. Or they are still paying millions to 1or more coaches who no longer coach there. Where the hell does the money grab end?
Doesn’t help DIII that much and it gets no whiter.And that means what? Does it help the Grambling State's, Alabama A&M's, Howard University's, and dozens of others? Nope.
NIL will only enhance the White Run Universities.
NIL in itself is inherently RACIST.
It's racist and you know it.Doesn’t help DIII that much and it gets no whiter.
It wasn’t racists when rich white boosters gave money to rich white athletic departments but it is when black kids get paid. lol.
To fight this racism we need to artificially limit how much money the black kids get. lol.
Athletic departments are rolling in money. Players are getting paid.
When a CEO makes 25million and the entry level worker that develops new code generates money, they don't get paid the same as the CEO, they have to work to get to the top and earn as they go. 1st year non-starters getting 8 figures is asinine.
Give someone a fish they eat for a day, teach them to fish they eat for life.