Alt right SCOTUS looks like will announce their decision on Roe v Wade this Friday? Miranda rights, pew pew and more
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Legislatures that wrote laws.....that the current court is overturning.
The interpretation Thomas made of the 2nd amendment is an entirely modern take. It has nothing to do with original intent or history. It's just 6 people who were placed on the court to subvert the will of the people in order to appease a small, wealthy group.
You’re an idiot if you think he was talking about rape/incest and not rape/incest resulting in pregnancy and abortions. Or an intricate troll.
They were his exact words and either way it is disgusting to minimize it.
It is if your goal is a dystopia puritan nation. You're not changing someone's mind when they genuinely believe abortion is murder. It's a non starter. Should abortion be birth control? In my opinion no. But birth control fails. What these dufuses don't understand is people can act reasonsibly and shit happens. Guess you're gonna be saddled for life.
And it’s obvious what he was referring to in those exact words. Well, at least to some one not trying to find outrage with a microscope.
because many people who have abortions aren't having them because they don't want children. For many of them it's painful, but they just don't see anyway they can keep providing for the kids they already have, or continue to have a career, etc... I want a society where parents don't have to choose between careers and children or their baby and feeding their current children.
I'd like to see us develop policies that solve those problems, which would help to lower abortion requirements.
I'd also like to see policies that make certain birth control is easily available to all women and affordable so the need for an abortion procedure never becomes a requirement.
Ok with what? Making sure you can discern between what he was talking about and what you came up with in your head? I didn’t take a stance one way or the other. You twisting peoples words is what you are known for. I’ll take a firm stance that your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.
Many people went without sex until they were financially able to have a child so your generalization is in fact not accurate. If you cant afford birth control which is very cheap, that's a good sign you aren't ready for sex. Humans have known how sex works long before "sex education" and it's also what parents are for, to teach children about life. So if I don't hand out condoms abortion is ok but if I do hand them out now it's bad? What does my actions have to do with another persons responsibilities? If I'm speeding and it causes me to get into an accident and someone dies because of that is it your fault because you didn't install better breaks for me on my car? Other people especially those not associated with you not helping you shouldn't give anyone a free out. Should more be done to help people avoid pregnancy before they are ready and is abortion ok aren't the same argument.
If we have to rank the people most responsible for this conservative Supreme Court, I think I’d have to rank, in order: 1. Harry Reid 2. Mitch McConnell 3. Trump and 4. RBG. What do we all think?
Why? I have read the right were the violent ones. When violence does come from the left it will interesting to see how the press justifies it
Wait I'm confused now I have been told many times that the right are all a bunch of poor racists living in the racist south, are we all just wealthy people now? Also no Thomas' interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is not modern at all. Laws have been overturned by the Supreme Court forever, overturning what the court believes to be unconstitutional has also been going on forever, it literally is their job.
Instead we operate on a White Christian Nationalist, minority rule.
Well, we agree that you're confused.
It was only 2008 with Heller that the court recognized a clear individual right to bear arms for the purpose of self-defense. If that's not 'modern' I don't know what is.
People can have sex with anyone they want within the context of the law, so I'm not sure where this dystopia you're speaking off exists. Yes certainly things happen when you engage reasonably in certain activities and "things happen" but you still have to deal with that in a moral way. I believe abortion is a great moral evil but I do not believe women that have them are murders I believe them to be victims of a culture that has convinced them that not only is it acceptable but in some cases even say it's a moral good. I do believe it's a discussion that can be had in a reasonable way, I understand that it's complicated to do that because it is a issue that many people who have opinions on it have strong opinions.
Saying something is statistically rare is not in anyway justifying said thing. It is in fact stating something that is true. Rape and incest, no matter how rare is disgusting and vile, pregnancy from it is unimaginable and I can certainly never grasp the feelings that could bring. But only in 2022 is a true statement considered disgusting when it is in no way meant as a justification for something evil.
not really. the issue hadn't really been presented previously to scotus. so new decision? sure. 'modern' right? hardly...as Heller itself made clear .
Thanks for helping prove my point.Ironically the Mississippi law before the court that bans it after 15 weeks has pretty split polling.
A Marquette University Law School poll released Wednesday found respondents by a 2-1 ratio said Roe vs. Wade should not be overturned.
But when survey respondents were asked if they would favor or oppose a ruling to “uphold a state law that (except in cases of medical emergencies or fetal abnormalities) bans abortions after the 15th week of a pregnancy,” 37% said they favored upholding it, while 32% said they would oppose such a ruling.
Polls: Most Americans support the right to abortion, but many are also OK with 15-week limit
Supreme Court will hear Mississippi's request to uphold its 15-week limit and also overturn Roe vs. Wade.www.latimes.com
Your defense of his statement minimizing rape is not a twist on my part. It's twisted on your part.
That is a bunch of gibberish that equates to "just say no to sex". It's wildly ignorant of the real world.
And the analogy is stupid.
It's minimizing it - that's the point. And it's not so rare - study showed 5% of rapes end in pregnancy.
You are completely out of touch.
Then repeal the second amendment and add an amendment to the constitution making abortion a constitutional right. If this what the people want then let’s do it. It’s not the Supreme Courts job to legislate from the bench.
Ok you are a very dishonest person in your discussions, there is no reason for me and you in particular to discuss this issue because you seem hell bent on twisting the intention of my posts.
If you think they will get a Constitutional amendment for 1. Abortion or 2. Remove the Second Amendment, you will be very disappointed.
I’d say bodily autonomy fits well into the 14th Amendment. So did a sane Supreme Court:
14th Amendment
Federal vaccine mandate anyone?? I’m pro-choice by the way.I’d say bodily autonomy fits well into the 14th Amendment. So did a sane Supreme Court:
14th Amendment
www.law.cornell.edu
The "right" as pretty much stayed where they were. Calling them "alt" is just an indication of how fruity your side has become
Everyone was required to have a vaccine? News to me.
That’s exactly my point Sockeyes! Thank you! The federal vaccine mandate was brilliantly based on who you worked for. Ergo, if you worked for someone with 99 employees it didn’t apply. But if you have 101 employees, it did apply.
There was no federal vaccine “mandate” for ANYONE in the private sector. Weekly testing was always an option instead. As usual, an American Conservative either didn’t do their homework, or is simply lying.
That was part of the mandate! Please keep up Sockeyes. I mean the mandate was struck down anyways.
You think requiring a negative COVID test once a week at a place of employment of over 100 people, if you aren’t vaccinated, is ALSO violating autonomy over your own body? OR did you not really know that and pretend you did? I kind of hope for the latter, because that is at least an understandable human error. The alternative is that you’re a nutjob.
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