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Anyone still an undecided?

Are you an undecided voter?

  • Yes I am unsure for whom I’m voting.

    Votes: 23 17.6%
  • No, I have my mind made up and it would take a force of nature to change it

    Votes: 88 67.2%
  • I’ve decided I’m not voting

    Votes: 10 7.6%
  • Something about OPs mom.

    Votes: 10 7.6%

  • Total voters
    131
  • Poll closed .
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I’m for sure doing a write in this year for POTUS. Either going Luis Litt or Jack Reacher. I’m actually serious

Are you a new Reacher fan from the Amazon series or long time book reader? If you haven't tried the books, consider it, very easy reads and great entertainment.
 
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Biden now has a 6 point lead over Trump.

Trump needed this election to be 6 months ago.

The more he opens his mouth the further he will drop behind.

It’s over.
 
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I'll make it easy for you.

I will NOT vote for Trump.
I may vote third party.
I may vote for Biden. I voted for him last time, but shit has his brain gone south in a hurry.
I may not vote at all.

I'm like the Alaska guy...my vote actually means something to me. Hell, I won't put my name next to a buddy at the office if I think he's a shit worker simply because he's a friend. Integrity matters, man.
Fair enough.

I’m not jazzed about Biden/Harris. Far from it. I just want to be able to feel I did my part to help keep Trump out of the White House.
 
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I'm saying I care so much, that I actually value my vote. It's not something I cast lightly, like voting for my favorite sandwich at Subway.

2024 needs to have the lowest voter turn-out in history. American's need to demand better. The fact this country is going to roll out these two senile old men is an embarrassment to the entire world--one who deserves to be in jail and the other a nursing home. I won't be any part of it.
100% spot on. Why are we allowing ourselves to be reduced to saying “well this one is not good but this one is worse so I’m voting for the lesser of the two losers?”
We should be raising holy hell and demanding a turning of the page and two better choices.
This is for the future of our country.
 
Biden now has a 6 point lead over Trump.

Trump needed this election to be 6 months ago.

The more he opens his mouth the further he will drop behind.

It’s over.

That is one poll, which is an outlier. It will be neck and neck, especially because so many moderates get their news from social media and have decided, with the same lack of evidence that Trump points to regarding rigged elections, that Biden has been a bad president and has dementia.
 
If your top priority is keeping Trump out of office (and that SHOULD be your top,priority) then you should vote for Biden. This is math.

90% chance I will vote for Biden.

I also live in Maryland, which will go to Biden regardless of my vote.
 
And that’s part of the problem with the electoral college, in all but a handful of states the winner is already known, so the motivation to vote is low.

I think we will see record turnout this election.

I hope Trump doesn't win.
 
Easily.

If Haley could pull out the nomination I vote Haley.

If Trump wins the nomination I vote Biden(again).

If it’s Trump/Biden and their is a viable 3rd party candidate who I like and could win, I vote for them. Think Cheney or Manchin or even Haley.
This.

They need to reframe the question to get a clear picture.

"Given no other choices who do you vote for? Trump or Biden"

If that was the question I think Joe would be north of 50% by a few pts in that scenario.
 
Are you a new Reacher fan from the Amazon series or long time book reader? If you haven't tried the books, consider it, very easy reads and great entertainment.
I did enjoy the Cruise movie. The series has been great. I didn’t read the books but that is actually a great idea
 
Biden is too old, and there is a very good probability that an incompetent Kamala becomes president sometime in the next term. That sucks.

But…

If it’s Biden vs Trump I will vote Biden without hesitation. That’s how low my opinion of Trump is. We have to keep him out of the Oval Office.

I would vote for Dan Quayle over Trump. It's amazing that we are even talking about Trump running again and people are like "Oh well, I'll write in Homer Simpson instead because I don't like Biden". This is how we get Trump again.
 
Agree.

I'm tired of people telling me how I should vote. My options are more than 2 people. Nothing will change if everyone keeps selecting the lesser of two turds. We will continue to get turds.
Your options are literally infinite. You can write in Smeagol if you like. Your choices are two. Binary. You don't have to like it. You don't even have to believe it just like you don't have to believe in gravity. You can bet on the Super Bowl and put your money on Dallas because you "don't like" the two teams playing. But Dallas CAN'T WIN. Sure, you can make that play but don't whine when you're told you're throwing your money away and viewed as dumb when you brag about it.
 
I would vote for Dan Quayle over Trump. It's amazing that we are even talking about Trump running again and people are like "Oh well, I'll write in Homer Simpson instead because I don't like Biden". This is how we get Trump again.
They want to be viewed as "principled", LOL. And after the fact, they want to be able to claim they didn't vote for whoever won.
 
I'm saying I care so much, that I actually value my vote. It's not something I cast lightly, like voting for my favorite sandwich at Subway.

2024 needs to have the lowest voter turn-out in history. American's need to demand better. The fact this country is going to roll out these two senile old men is an embarrassment to the entire world--one who deserves to be in jail and the other a nursing home. I won't be any part of it.
You can couch it however you like but you're going to a Subway with two choices and pretending like you're doing something honorable by paying for a sandwich they don't serve. They'll take your money and hand you the sandwich you hate the most and you'll toss it in the trash. Then they'll laugh at you for the rest of the day because - read this carefully - you threw your money away.

There is NO analogy that makes you look smart here. Vote for Micky Mouse or for no one at all but - damn - don't brag about it.
 
Let's just see who's on the ballot and still viable,.. Who knows, Trump could be in prison, Biden could be dead or stroked out, and somebody like Manchin could be picking up steam.
 
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Your options are literally infinite. You can write in Smeagol if you like. Your choices are two. Binary. You don't have to like it. You don't even have to believe it just like you don't have to believe in gravity. You can bet on the Super Bowl and put your money on Dallas because you "don't like" the two teams playing. But Dallas CAN'T WIN. Sure, you can make that play but don't whine when you're told you're throwing your money away and viewed as dumb when you brag about it.
Which is it- infinite choices or two teams at a Super Bowl? Or buying a sandwich subway doesn’t serve?

I’m not trying to be principled or clever. It’s my vote- and there’s nothing that says people have to pick from the two front runners. Just you.

Nothing will ever change if people continue your way of thinking.
 
Which is it- infinite choices or two teams at a Super Bowl? Or buying a sandwich subway doesn’t serve?

I’m not trying to be principled or clever. It’s my vote- and there’s nothing that says people have to pick from the two front runners. Just you.

Nothing will ever change if people continue your way of thinking.
It's like saying, "Why bother boycotting....the company is too big. It won't make a dent. Why bother?" Good thing MLK didn't think he was wasting his time.
 
Which is it- infinite choices or two teams at a Super Bowl? Or buying a sandwich subway doesn’t serve?

I’m not trying to be principled or clever. It’s my vote- and there’s nothing that says people have to pick from the two front runners. Just you.

Nothing will ever change if people continue your way of thinking.

Are you genuinely confused by his post or being coy?
 
It's like saying, "Why bother boycotting....the company is too big. It won't make a dent. Why bother?" Good thing MLK didn't think he was wasting his time.
I see what you're saying, and I voted third party in both 2012 and 2016. That said, one of the two major choices in 2024 is so wholly unfit to lead the American people, that I can't afford to "throw my vote away."
 
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I see what you're saying, and I voted third party in both 2012 and 2016. That said, one of the two major choices in 2024 is so wholly unfit to lead the American people, that I can't afford to "throw my vote away."
Same, and agreed.
 
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't understand either one of your posts. I was genuinely replying to Tarheel

It seemed like you legitimately didn't understand the logic that Tar Heel was describing, but it also seemed like maybe you did understand it, but you just disagree with it and we're being coy in the manner of expressing it.

I was asking if you would reveal which one it was, and you gave me the "shrug" gif
 
It seemed like you legitimately didn't understand the logic that Tar Heel was describing, but it also seemed like maybe you did understand it, but you just disagree with it and we're being coy in the manner of expressing it.

I was asking if you would reveal which one it was, and you gave me the "shrug" gif
I think his argument/analogy is flawed. The Super Bowl one for sure.

I think in general his line of thinking is flawed/dated/dangerous.
 
I think his argument/analogy is flawed. The Super Bowl one for sure.

I think in general his line of thinking is flawed/dated/dangerous.

It's still not clear to me if you understood it, but we all communicate differently.

That said, I'll bet you that Dallas wins the Super Bowl.
 
This is nuts. If they elect Trump, in 4 years we'll elect someone else. Democracy is not in danger. Talk like this is blatant fear mongering.

🙄

Tell me you know nothing about history without telling me you know nothing about history.

Hubris like yours is what got us here in the first place. I have little doubt it can make things far worse.
 
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It's still not clear to me if you understood it, but we all communicate differently.

That said, I'll bet you that Dallas wins the Super Bowl.


The presidential campaign isn't the Superbowl. The game itself only allows for two teams- by design. The election - as he mentioned- has infinite possible options.

Are there two (very likely) outcomes? Yes- but by practice, not by design.
 
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The presidential campaign isn't the Superbowl. The game itself only allows for two teams- by design. The election - as he mentioned- has infinite possible options.

Are there two (very likely) outcomes? Yes- but by practice, not by design.

It seems you did understand it. What makes it flawed, dated and dangerous?
 
I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet. But I do know that I will not vote for Biden. I feel we are seconds away from a WW3. I feel his handling of things has been a trainwreck. This last go around is an example. Iran does something and all he has to say is, "we plan to respond to it". WTF? That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy with the feeling of safety for our men/women in uniforms. JFC, that is the most clown show statement ever.
 
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