i’m not saying that you should post what you know. i’m saying if you can’t post it, don’t say that you know it but can’t tell. i wouldn’t go around the grocery store and say “you hear about billy? something wrong. pretty serious. i know what it is but i’m not supposed to say.”
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Could be nothing, but Drake's family has been buying up extra tickets on facebook for Friday.
But he wasn’t listed on the probables for this weekend, certainly the coaches wouldn’t mess with us fans like that ; ).
Because I know why they didn't wrestle and he doesn't. His reasoning is mind games by the coaches and some on here eat it up. I was trying to help those of you that think he knew something but you can lead a horse to water....
23sofar I get being pissed about not seeing our full lineup. This season has sucked so far for all of us. I also understand the frustration about the lack of information. Fans want to know because they care. I don't agree with those that won't watch the team that's put out on the mat if they don't have those answers, but respect your right to feel that way. I'm not a better fan because I'm going to Carver regardless of the line up. I just have a different perspective. The program is lucky to have such a passionate fan base. I just got sick of a certain guy who I used to respect regurgitating the same garbage. I tried bringing it up on the IC forum but he must not be a member there any more.
I guess you get different vibes than I get. When somebody that's been shown to be connected says something, I'm appreciative of the little info that they do give, as it at least sheds a little light in the situation.
I don't see it as flexing on insider information. If somebody is going around saying "hahaha I know but can't tell" then yeah that's a pointless comment and I agree, but if somebody who knows is saying "I can't say more, but this guy is way off on what he's saying", then that is good insider info to me, because that narrows down the reasonable conclusions I could draw from a situation.
I love and expected the blow back from tarpies rainbow club.
So, anyone with a similar opinion to Tarp is member of the rainbow club? That sounds a bit….. simplistic at best.
But, you do you. (Most) fish don’t fly, but people still fly fish. Some of the best people, I’ve heard.
i suspect this is a reference to something else, but i’m not sure what.
I put it through the El Dub translator:
Although Tarp was somewhat of a fish (sorry Tarp) in the Hawk wrestling room back in the day, he still toed the line with some of our greatest lightweights...therefore El Dub has a high opinion of Tarp. Either that or El Dub just needs his afternoon allotment of Ho-Ho's.
Got it. I should take it on faith that Acuhawk has inside information that "100%" disproves Tarp's take, and at the same time I should also accept that Acuhawk is prudently withholding that information b/c disclosure on this forum might provide a competitive advantage to future opponents wrestling Iowa's third best 125 lber. In the meantime, Acuhawk is free to attack Tarp's bona fides on the basis of this same undisclosed information. Well, that clears it up.
There you go, took ya long enough.
If you can't figure it out from there, then nobody is going to be able to help you.
I think sometimes Tom just lets the backups go to get their chance at a live go in a dual. This is even more likely if the starter is banged up (not enough to keep them out in a "must go" situation, but enough to take a safety first take on the situation). This keeps the room a lot tighter I'm sure too. I think they really do "like their guys" and expect everyone to go out and perform and win every match, underdog or not. This year has been frustrating so far for sure, but I'm really starting to believe we are just snakebit when it comes to injuries at Iowa. I really have a gut feeling Drake will get his shirt pulled. What I'm not sure on is if it will be this weekend or not. I would love to see him against McKee and Shroeder as those are two podium guys. If Drake ends up our 125 this year and Kem gets back sooner rather than later (would like to see him knock the rust off before B10's) we are still in this against PSU. Pulling Drake's shirt to start the night and sending Kemmerer out on either Friday or Sunday will get Carver rocking for sure. Tom says he wants to entertain the fans and both these guys going will do that. Lots of huge duals coming up to get our best on the mat. I'm more concerned Covid will screw us again then Tom not getting our best lineup out there tbh.
Let me guess, you're one of the guys that told Randy he was lying when he came on here and defended the coaches saying that we didn't cut the HWC girls team because Smalls and Micro P said otherwise.
Some people just can't be helped.
Well said IMO. ^^ College D1 wrestling has seemed to drift to more and more wrestlers sitting out a meet to avoid a possible loss, etc, or MFF'ing out of a tourney once 1st place is no longer available, etc.
Yes, there are some times very legit reasons why a person cannot go, but I think it has gone way past that now...for a number of programs. I hate to see it and it is frustrating for fans like me...but it is also very hard for all of us outsiders to know the true reasons and the legitimacy of those reasons.
It's a real balancing act, you can't, as a coach, reveal real health/injury stats willy nilly, but if everything is strictly "you have to trust the coaches no matter what" and there are key people missing key events...then fan interest is going to wane.
Dude…. I’ve been trying to kick sugar.
Just taking creative license. Not calling Tarp a fish. However, I do appreciate the unique views of Tarp-on this topic.
Say what you want. Tarp knows the characters in question. He might not have details of specific athletes’ health records, but he does know the general mindset of TnT.
To some, that might not mean much, to others, it might. Lol
Tarp is cesspool legend status IMO. FWIW I don't think he's being negative to besmerch anyone's character....I think he's really ready to take bat to a neighbors car after bad matches...like barely keeping it together plus he's not going on and on like others u know that ya? It's usually a line or 2 when that's very harsh but usually true......75% of the time funny too, can't halt that party.
The general mindset of TnT in the 80s-90s was to slaughter anybody on their path to world wrestling domination..
What about that would lead someone to today think they would be holding out healthy guys or be playing mind games?
I respect Tarp and everything he went through to achieve his goals, loved his blog, dude was a warrior. But he's been out of touch with the room for a LONG time and I think his word gets credited as fact more than it should.
Time flies when you're having fun for some, but for me and Kermit the Frog time's fun when you're having flies.
This. It's a lose lose for our coaches and it truly is a thankless job.
For a decade everybody constantly griped about how our guys looked worn out and beat up when it got to BIGs and Nationals, and now that they're taking a more cautious approach they're destroying the sport by not sending all the top guys out there.
It's a balancing act, that's for sure. One I'm damn glad I don't have to make the decisions on.
Not saying holding out healthy to play mind games. More like a lack of info leads to speculation by fans.
Things surely evolved in the room in the last decades. The coaches, too. But I’m still basically the same person I was when I was five. I have learned and experienced a lot. But somethings were baked in at an early age….
For decades the coaches were bragging about training through duals. There has to be a healthy middle ground, no?
Seems like any time there's a chance to have a negative opinion against the Brands', Tarp is on here throwing it out there.
Now maybe he's just a negative dude (like Art) and that's how he'd be if anybody was our coach. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
The is the Kohawks year!I've probably got some spare Wartburg gear I'd gift you
And as much as it kills me, ive got cousins starting for the Auggies, but you can only root for them individually, not the whole team
I have no doubt that you've been baked since an early age. Sorry I had to.
Agree that there's definitely a middle ground in going too hard and sitting our guys our too much, but maybe we're just going through more injuries/bad luck than other years too?
If it was going on for the last 5 years where we're constantly sitting guys then us being a little soft is something I can get behind.
But we really only started sitting a lot of guys last year and this year, and both years it's been pretty clear we're going through a lot of adversity, so I'm willing to give our coaches a pass.
More this than anything else. With Spencer's injury, it was "training methods." But when he doesn't wrestle, it's "ducking."
Wait until I start drinking and posting novels of random stories at 2am....
lol, check my history..I'm not kidding
I never smoked weed until I was 18. And back then I didn’t really like it much.
Yeah, maybe he does always do that huh? ..Honestly the only thing truly endearing to me about Tarp (besides his blog) is how pissed he can get over matches...I don't know why but I love it. Acuhawk is cool, Tarp is a grown up, Oh...it must Thursday afternoon at the cesspool.
in defense of tarp, for a returning title team with everybody back, things have not gone smoothly this year. injuries, upsets, general mystery around important contributors, etc…it’s not like he’s running around saying the sky is falling. just not a lot to be excited about yet.
On the humorous side, I was once asked if I knew what the definition of “asinine “ was. I said yes I do. See the woman standing by the door? I give her breast a 10 and her asinine.
I'd agree, if he hadn't been like this for years, and last year when we won I don't recall him bouncing off the walls complimenting TnT either.. Maybe I'm forgetting, I'm not sure.
Definitely been a downer of a year so far, hopefully we can pull it together when it really matters.
Humorous? I think you meant to post in the Tommy John surgery thread 😅
By reading his blogs and what he posts on here, I don’t think the Brands were ever friendly with Tarp, so I am not surprised to see no love lost between them.
As far as being negative to coaches goes, Tarp spent his time under Gable. EVERY coach is going to fall woefully short in comparison.
With the above said, I agree that no one should take what he says as “insider” knowledge. But, to be clear, I don’t think Tarp has ever even hinted that he has any…
So you don't want opinions on Hawkeye wrestling on a Hawkeye wrestling message board unless they unanimously positive. That's not the way message boards work. In terms of Tarp, I appreciate his insights. They are never 'insider' posts, they are wrestling posts. Brands is a great leader for the Hawks, but he is definitely not infallible. Tarp is complimentary of the Hawks when he sees it and critical when he sees it.
I appreciate your posts, just as I appreciate Tarps. However, this thread makes you look really hyper-sensitive and annoying, like a teenage girl. Eat a snickers, relax. Fans on message boards will not always agree with head coach.
