Saban offered Grubb $2 million to go to Alabama and he declined. Iowa doesn’t have a chance. Next topic.
Beth needs to call Ryan Grubb; just do it
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That's 2M to be the Alabama OC. The OP was suggesting Grubb as Iowa HC, which would certainly be for $5M plus. So the Alabama comparison is meaningless.
But if the decision is made to move away from KF, I would probably lean toward someone with some HC experience.
Is there anyone from Kingsley area, or Buena Vista who knows anything about Grubb? Any chance he grew up a Hawk fan?
They kept mentioning the Dakota connection during the game and how DeBoer offered Grubb the opportunity when he was living at his sisters house doing contracting work while looking for a football job. Which is why he didn't leave for Bama as it sounded like they are very tight and he also felt they had something special at Washington w/Penix and this group of receivers, which they clearly do. Penix is so special, the guy sees the field so well but also is so accurate and his receivers catch everything. I'd say that if offered the right opportunity now he might leave. Unfortunately the timing doesn't look to be right as Kirk isn't going anywhere. And yes, Grubb is going to command a lot of money.
Why does he "deserve" better than that? He's been rewarded like a royal for the past 25 years, and he's turned the program into a national punch line. It's time for him to go, and giving him the option to step down with dignity is doing him a favor. If he doesn't want to go that way, he shouldn't be allowed to hold the program hostage until he breaks whatever personal records he wants to have.
Yep, like saying "well so and so lead the company for the past X years and deserves to leave on their terms", regardless of them running the company (Iowa) and its stock into the ground (national punch line for offense)
Because F*** Wisconsin, that's why.......
Grubb is not taking a coordinator position regardless of the school or ties to that school. He has now solidified himself as a P5 head coach in the waiting. The question for him is when and what school as he will probably have his pick in the next couple of years.
My point exactly, except that I don't think Iowa has "years" to get him. Right now there are ZERO head coach openings in the Power 4. Iowa offering him right now would have no competition and would get him a lucrative head coaching position at least a year earlier than he would have otherwise, and despite many fans here having KF-level "we're just little 'ole Iowa" insecurities, the Iowa HC job is one hell of a gig. If he is still Washington's OC in November '24, he will be receiving dozens of inquiries for HC positions. I just have a feeling that it is now or never.
KF had the luxury of 25 years of an AD with a spineless back; maybe it's time he "man up," and confront the lady face-to-face?
I guess at first I misread and didn't realize this thread was about replacing Kirk right now.
But why would he confront her face-to-face when he just went 10 wins and a division championship? What coach would do that?
KF isn't the reason the Hawks had 10 wins; neither is BF, neither is KC, and neither is GB. But, you keep on drinking the juice...
Yeah, I think that staff is pretty damn good. If there was a pie in the sky scenario, it would be to throw $8M, or more if needed, at DeBoer (which is basically double his salary) to bring his staff and take over the program.... make him turn it down. This would assume no KF buyout, Phil didn't want the HC job, etc.....not going to happen, just what I would do if I could hit a reset button.
So you expect Kirk, who just led the hawks to 10 wins and a division champ, who still has a couple dozen million on his contract to approach Beth Goetz and say "hey beth, ya know, It's not because of me. I need to go. Because people on a free message board said so, peace."
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Like many Hawk fans, I have 25 years of expecting nothing from Kirk. Norm & Phil have always covered for his mistakes. Now, we can add LeVar to the list.
His Offense is a national joke, and he & his son are their leaders. The Citrus Bowl was a national embarrassment; just like any game against a ranked team.
The only thing worse than a Ferentz offense are Ferent supporters "...on the free message board..."
I agree with you for the most part. I just think it's wild that to suggest he face Beth with a ton of cash and time on his contract still when he's winning games.
My suggestion? Beth: Fire KF; build a statue; glorious retirement ceremony; thanks for the memories.
Now: Hire Grubb as HC @ $9M per year.
If guess if that's all me means to you and everyone else after all the shit he's done for the program, university and community then Iowa is a bigger toilet than I imagined...which is truly saying something after the last several years. Would I like a change? Truthfully, if he would step down it wouldn't bother me. I absolutely would like to see things ran a little differently. However, KF is a great man with an even better heart, and as an Iowan I guess I was raised to treat people better than what you're describing. Your attitude toward him is complete bullshit. This isn't the SEC for Christ sake, and if you think we're going to bring someone in that will turn us into Bama your an even bigger idiot than you let on. What WOULD bother me is to kick him to the curb for no GD reason other than your (and other people's) juvenile and wildly indignant behavior.
How much do you have personally invested in the program? Time, money and resources?
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Name him OC and Assistant HC. Put it in the contract that he becomes the HC when KF steps away.
I love all the "we won 10 games" - yes, yes, we did. But we were completely embarrassed against anyone with a pulse 0-92 (and even one with little to no pulse (MN). You can settle for the best of the worst or strive to be amongst the best of the best.
Some folks just can't fathom raising the bar.
I would be all for this, but see two problems:
1) In that scenario, Grubb would probably extend KF's career another 3-5 years, and I don't picture Grubb being a HC at a major program any later than 2025 if he just stays where he is for another season.
2) No way in heck would egomaniac KF allow a high-profile OC to come in and overshadow him, and basically make the entire fan base count down the days until he hands over the keys. It would be easier just to get rid of him.
If If's and but's were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas. If CM, LL, and EA didn't get hurt early on Iowa's offense would have been at least average.
Glad you wasted your time to chime in on a thread that is such a waste of time.
Which threads on this board do you consider a wise use of someone's time?
Yeah, it would be stupid to inject life into the program not seen since the HF hire.
Please describe what you consider to be "not stupid."
Then Beth can write in that KF is done in 3 years with buyout and as long as Grubb has met whatever criteria, he is elevated.
At some point, BG or whomever the AD is will need to find fortitude and do the needed.
Are we...
Are we sure Ryan Grubb doesn't have a meathead son named Brian Grubb?
Are we sure Ryan Grubb doesn't have a meathead son named Brian Grubb?
Well Gary Barnett the old Northwestern coach is on the radio here every Wednesday and he said that in his entire life of playing, coaching and watching football he's never seen that happen. He had absolutely no problem handing the ball off to a running back on a basic play up the middle. The play clock goes down to 15 and nobody questions anything. I'm not going to question a coach who's currently in the national championship right now. And before our guys went down we were still a below average offense.
Because he’s 77 years old? Maybe you should become Washington’s clock management coach.
This is a major stretch. Do you have any idea how far Iowa was from having an "at least average" offense? Troy Aikman, Jerry Rice and Gronk wouldn't have brought this heaping pile of trash up to average.
We all know Kirk is a great guy and all but I’d trade that for a dickhead coach that can beat top 25 teams consistently and put Iowa in the playoffs.
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