Better off without Krikke and Pmac
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so will Fran (hope) He and Margaret were out embarrassing themselves again last night at Xavier.
Hopefully Patrick is out the rest of the season.
Team sure is looking good today.
Actually have a point guard. You listening, Fran?
Sorry but they look so much tougher without Patrick.
Sad and mean to root for but unfortunately true because of Dad’s BS playing him way more than deserved.
The only reason I watched today is because I heard he wasn't playing.
Granted, Rutgers is not a great team but Iowa looked so much better today without PMac.
Well op is half right. Krikke still needs to play a lot.
19 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists today for Krikke.
Krikke hasn't been rebounding like that most of this season. The combo of Krikke at PF and Freeman at center looked pretty good. Freeman is best player on this Iowa team because he improves the post defense and cleans up on rebounds. When Sandfort is shooting like today, then playing him at the 3 is okay because he brings more offense than you lose on defense.
The thing that didn't work was no PG on the floor. Perkins and/or Dix at PG is vulnerable to turnovers. Fran needs to bite the bullet and play Bowen more.
PMAC being sick made it easy for Fran to not put out ridiculous lineup. The reallity is PMAC should be bench player playing behind Sandfort. Fran will put him back in starting lineup.
We’re clearly not better off without Krikke. He’s our most efficient offensive player. And yes, he’s not good on defense. PMac? Yes.
Heard the B1G showroom guys say Krikke was +28 today. Might have misheard that, but if true that's pretty incredible in a 9 point win.
And the thing is, I think Patrick is well aware of this. I think mentally he is done with Iowa basketball, and the only reason he hasn't up and quit is because he doesn't want to upset his family. He is basically doing time at this point, and I'm guessing that he can't wait for this season to be over so he can finally move on from Iowa basketball.
Addition by subtraction with no pmac.
Vs Iowa with the number one offense. Iowa hit their average today of 86.7 ppg.
Iowa is objectively better without Patrick. What will Fran do?
Game announcers throw that in every season, but honestly id Utoff can't hang in the league there's no way Pmac is getting paid. I still wonder if A White had stuck around in the G league if he'd have made his way in. He's become a really good Euro player. I could see him being a decent reserve in the league.
Is there any way to track the games without Patrick and our offensive and defensive ratings? The eye test is already significant
what he has done for 3 years. play him anyway.
I think the d league had some pretty crappy contracts when white graduated and they made some increases in minimum and guarantees since then. Seems more common today for players to stay in states.
Honestly I think the OP made some valid points……Krikke had a night as well as P Sandfort to sort of prove him wrong. Hate to say it but with Patrick not playing was the difference maker! Go Hawks
I do this manually. My dataset comes from the following games: Creighton, Arkansas State, Seton Hall, Oklahoma, North Florida, Purdue, Iowa State, Michigan and Wisconsin. I watch the games with an Excel spreadsheet open and track what happens each possession. I measure the points scored and points allowed every possession when each player is in the game and then compare with what happens when that player is out of the game. In those games, we score 1.18 points per possession with Pat and 0.96 points per possession without Pat. We allow 1.18 points per possession with Pat and 1.09 points per possession without Pat. So the defense is significantly worse when he's in the game (+0.09 PPP) but that is offset by the offense being dramatically better with him in the game (+0.22 PPP).
Edited to add that these numbers bounce around a lot from game to game so I'll continue to update this as the season goes along.
Rutgers is the worst team in the conference and we still gave up almost 80 points to them without PMac. Bowen only wants to drive into trees and attempt impossible layups, but gets a pass why? Pmac should get 10 minutes and do nothing but pass or shoot as soon as he catches the ball. No dribbling, just cut cut cut and try to get an open dunk or 3.
I’m sure the next game will be different no doubt about it. OP said Brauns and Dembele all day ahead of Krikke and P Sandfort. Today was not their day at all. Check the box score it will explain a lot. Brauns played 1 minute and 2 fouls…..Dembele played 9 minutes with 2 fouls 0 points. Point is every game is different and Fran needs to make the correct decision!
Bowen should 100% be doing what he's doing--keep driving. As he gets stronger those drives will turn into fouls. He gets a pass because I'm also 100% positive that's what Fran wants to see.
Hopefully today has swayed Fran. Dix went 7/4/4 in 26 minutes and played great on-ball defense all game.
Iowa went 11-6 to end the conference season last year with Pat coming off the bench/DNP in those handful of games
Well Krikke getting 19 and 10 says different. Freeman is amazing but Krikke is a veteran we need.
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With the meds the kid is on I'm impressed he can even play. Thyroid is a crazy part of us and when removed it affects all of life. An 11 am game he's not playing. He's a great kid and have chatted with him a few times. He definitely is struggling with his energy and mental sharpness.
He was plus 19 today in the first half. Playing against a really good player.
That is different from my system. I drink more when Im angry. When Patrick is in the game I average 6.5 beers per half. When he is not playing I average 1.5 beers.
I am significantly more angry and drunk when Patrick plays. I am less angry and drunk when he does not play
During the stretch of Creighton, Arkansas State, Oklahoma, Seton Hall and North Florida, our offense was 0.15 points per possession better with Patrick on the floor (while the defense was 0.02PPP worse). When the Purdue, Iowa State and Michigan games were added that turned into 0.16PPP better on offense and 0.05PPP worse on defense. When Wisconsin is added, it was 0.22PPP better on offense and 0.09PPP worse on defense. These numbers do bounce around quite a bit from game to game. But the offensive improvement with him on the floor is really striking and it's been there for a while now.
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