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Better off without Krikke and Pmac

I’m sure the next game will be different no doubt about it. OP said Brauns and Dembele all day ahead of Krikke and P Sandfort. Today was not their day at all. Check the box score it will explain a lot. Brauns played 1 minute and 2 fouls…..Dembele played 9 minutes with 2 fouls 0 points. Point is every game is different and Fran needs to make the correct decision!

A coach should coach stategically for the season and Braun would have been more experienced by now.....Braun had a hard hedge and got a foul...little too hard..not the worst play. He's had maybe 10 minutes of PT the entire season? He shold have gotten PT earlier in season vs scrubs/games we lost. Freeman is going to get into foul trouble on regular basis because post players get called for most fouls...Krikke can't defend the post...that leave Brauns and some Dimbele.
 
A coach should coach stategically for the season and Braun would have been more experienced by now.....Braun had a hard hedge and got a foul...little too hard..not the worst play. He's had maybe 10 minutes of PT the entire season? He shold have gotten PT earlier in season vs scrubs/games we lost. Freeman is going to get into foul trouble on regular basis because post players get called for most fouls...Krikke can't defend the post...that leave Brauns and some Dimbele.
Agree. I'm surprised Brauns didn't get more minutes in the preseason. He was getting 20 minutes a game in the MVC at the 5. I thought that would translate to more than 2 minutes a game this season. But Freeman also wasn't a starter in the preseason so I suppose Fran didn't see the need back in November. Per his minutes in the MVC Brauns was a serviceable rebounder and shot blocker. And that's what Iowa needs from him if Freeman hits the bench in the foul trouble.
 
I can agree with lack of playing time…..I’ve watched Braun play every second and every game….it just seems to me he’s a hack machine. 1 minute of play against Rutgers and 2 fouls is pretty quick. Don’t you think that?
 
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With the meds the kid is on I'm impressed he can even play. Thyroid is a crazy part of us and when removed it affects all of life. An 11 am game he's not playing. He's a great kid and have chatted with him a few times. He definitely is struggling with his energy and mental sharpness.
BS. I’m tired of seeing his thyroidectomy used as an excuse for his performance. My thyroid was removed 15 years ago. You get thyroid pills that are adjusted in dosage as you get occasional blood tests. All in all not a lasting effect beyond taking a pill every day.

Something else is going on.
 
Krikke was our leading scorer in a number of games. He’s not bad on offense. Glad we have him. PMac is struggling for sure. This is my starting lineup. Perk, Dix, Sandy, Krikke, Freeman.
 
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I can agree with lack of playing time…..I’ve watched Braun play every second and every game….it just seems to me he’s a hack machine. 1 minute of play against Rutgers and 2 fouls is pretty quick. Don’t you think that?
Yes, too quick on the Braun fouls but I think he was trying to impress because he's been a deep bench player all season. I'm warming up to Krikke playing PF...but we absolutely need a rebounder/defensive guy at center to backup Freeman.

Rutgers game was encouraging in terms of Freeman, Krikke, Sandfort playing at same time. Iowa is little bit unique in the B1G in having a highly efficent 2 pt shooter in Krikke 58% , a highly efficient 3pt shooter in Sandfort 40% and an athletic scorer in Perkins. Really it comes down to improving the defense and improving PG play.

DIx impresses me with his defense and he's an efficient but low volume scorer. In terms of overall play, PMAC is way behind Sandfort on scoring/rebounding and well behind DIx in defense at the SF position--so that means PMACs deserved minutes should be less than what Dix plays right now.
 
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We have seen so little of Brauns and Dembele that’s for sure. I don’t dislike either of them. OP just stated that Krikke wasn’t a Big 10 starter and then has a game like this!! It would take Brauns 4 games to get these stats probably because he fouls too much. Brauns definitely works his butt off.
 
During the stretch of Creighton, Arkansas State, Oklahoma, Seton Hall and North Florida, our offense was 0.15 points per possession better with Patrick on the floor (while the defense was 0.02PPP worse). When the Purdue, Iowa State and Michigan games were added that turned into 0.16PPP better on offense and 0.05PPP worse on defense. When Wisconsin is added, it was 0.22PPP better on offense and 0.09PPP worse on defense. These numbers do bounce around quite a bit from game to game. But the offensive improvement with him on the floor is really striking and it's been there for a while now.
There is one defensive set where PMac seems quite effective and that is at the point of the zone press. It would be interesting to know if the defensive numbers skew on the basis of how often the Hawks extend the defense.
 
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There is one defensive set where PMac seems quite effective and that is at the point of the zone press. It would be interesting to know if the defensive numbers skew on the basis of how often the Hawks extend the defense.

I found a site that has BPM ...plus minus by player---it is near bottom of the linked page

PMAC is 8th on the team at +0.7 points, just ahead of Pryce Sandfort. That actually matches what my eyeballs say. Freeman at plus 8.8 is the best and Payton Sandfort at 8.0 is the 2nd best.. The players beyond Top 8 have negative BPMs which makes sense since they are mostly scrub time players playing with other non starters.

As far as PMAC effectiveness on Zone press...yes he's long and slows down the other team from passing over top, but he rarely gets any steals.


 
I found a site that has BPM ...plus minus by player---it is near bottom of the linked page

PMAC is 8th on the team at +0.7 points, just ahead of Pryce Sandfort. That actually matches what my eyeballs say. Freeman at plus 8.8 is the best and Payton Sandfort at 8.0 is the 2nd best.. The players beyond Top 8 have negative BPMs which makes sense since they are mostly scrub time players playing with other non starters.

As far as PMAC effectiveness on Zone press...yes he's long and slows down the other team from passing over top, but he rarely gets any steals.


"BPM" stands for box score based plus minus. This means that it isn't his actual +/- but rather an attempt to predict it based on his box score statistics. In my view, this defeats the whole purpose of +/- which is to quantify a player's impact in ways that aren't measured in the box score.
 
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I found a site that has BPM ...plus minus by player---it is near bottom of the linked page

PMAC is 8th on the team at +0.7 points, just ahead of Pryce Sandfort. That actually matches what my eyeballs say. Freeman at plus 8.8 is the best and Payton Sandfort at 8.0 is the 2nd best.. The players beyond Top 8 have negative BPMs which makes sense since they are mostly scrub time players playing with other non starters.

As far as PMAC effectiveness on Zone press...yes he's long and slows down the other team from passing over top, but he rarely gets any steals.


PMac wouldn't need to get the steals himself to be effective in the role. If his presence forces dangerous passes that other Hawks steal, or contributes to 10 second calls, or even just slows down the other team's offense, then he's done his job.

Unfortunately, he's been a defensive liability when the opponent gets into the front court.
 
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There is one defensive set where PMac seems quite effective and that is at the point of the zone press. It would be interesting to know if the defensive numbers skew on the basis of how often the Hawks extend the defense.
Okay I looked this up. Small sample size warning!!! In the game games I've tracked, we have pressed on 109 possessions. PMac was on the floor for 59 of these and we allowed 0.98 PPP on those possessions. On the 50 possessions where we pressed with PMac on the bench, we allowed 1.14 PPP. So the press has been considerably more effective with PMac in the game. Sample size caveats apply of course but your hypothesis is looking like a good one!
 
"BPM" stands for box score based plus minus. This means that it isn't his actual +/- but rather an attempt to predict it based on his box score statistics. In my view, this defeats the whole purpose of +/- which is to quantify a player's impact in ways that aren't measured in the box score.

Looking at the BPM...it pretty much follow what my eyeballs have said who is playing well and who isn't. Anyway if you are having fun with your hobby---more power to you.
 
Looking at the BPM...it pretty much follow what my eyeballs have said who is playing well and who isn't. Anyway if you are having fun with your hobby---more power to you.
I'll clarify a bit. BPM has value for sure and I appreciate you posting it. I just wish they'd call it something else :). Semantics, I know. It's just that there are obviously things the box score doesn't capture and +/- is designed to capture that stuff. If you are defending on the perimeter and you force a missed shot, you don't get credit for a steal or a blocked shot, but it was still good defense. You box out the other team's best offensive rebounder and one of your teammates gets the board - it doesn't show up in your stats but it's a good play. If you set a good screen to free up a teammate for an open shot etc.

There are some within the analytics field who believe that BPM should be used instead of the actual +/- numbers, which to me is crazy and defeats the purpose.
 
I can agree with lack of playing time…..I’ve watched Braun play every second and every game….it just seems to me he’s a hack machine. 1 minute of play against Rutgers and 2 fouls is pretty quick. Don’t you think that?
He is a foul machine, but I think that’s just inexperience and over exuberance. He WANTS to play defense, which is a positive. I still like his game and I think when Freeman isn’t in there he’s the best option to defend.
 
As for pmac's BPM being better on the press. ... I figured it out that he made 10 pts difference in 15 games total. Now figure out how many rebounds and points he gives up during the times we are having him press. I guarantee it is more like 3-8 pts a game every game.
 
Pmac plays with the starters of course numbers look off. If you had data of him playing either the second team with someone else in his spot then numbers would say something else.
Everyone’s eyes are telling them the same thing. You can’t play defense with locked legs, have a couple fouls and a couple offensive rebounds and be playing hard.
He should get two minutes on and 4 off. He plays better (-and I use that term loosely) the first couple minutes he plays. That’s when he hits shots. After two minutes he’s bad. Real bad.
 
The stats are interesting. I'd be interested in seeing entire games when he's not playing. IMO, his play on both offense and defense is contagious - I guess this part doesn't necessarly show up in the stat sheet. Without him, I see crisper passes, better ball movement, and more cutting.
 
BS. I’m tired of seeing his thyroidectomy used as an excuse for his performance. My thyroid was removed 15 years ago. You get thyroid pills that are adjusted in dosage as you get occasional blood tests. All in all not a lasting effect beyond taking a pill every day.

Something else is going on.
Not to pry, but what's your day to day physical exertion compared to his?
 
Pmac plays with the starters of course numbers look off. If you had data of him playing either the second team with someone else in his spot then numbers would say something else.
Everyone’s eyes are telling them the same thing. You can’t play defense with locked legs, have a couple fouls and a couple offensive rebounds and be playing hard.
He should get two minutes on and 4 off. He plays better (-and I use that term loosely) the first couple minutes he plays. That’s when he hits shots. After two minutes he’s bad. Real bad.
His defense stinks and my +/- stats show that. The defense gets worse by 0.11 PPP when he's in the game. However, the offense gets better by 0.17 PPP when he's in the game so he's a net positive. None of the other starters have such a positive differential on the offense when they are in the game so I don't believe that his +/- is just an artifact of him playing with the starters.
 
I don’t follow other BT programs…but would any of our starters sniff the floor at an upper tier BT program? (Asking anyone) It seems like Fran obviously hit it out of park with the twins and Luka, but beyond that his recruiting has been very suspect IMHO. As someone other poster said - most solid programs do have a single sharp shooter who may be defensive liability, but at Iowa that type of player normally makes ups 1/3 (or more) of our roster…🥲
So you don't remember all the First Team All B1G players McCaffery has had? Time for a checkup, son!
 
There is one defensive set where PMac seems quite effective and that is at the point of the zone press. It would be interesting to know if the defensive numbers skew on the basis of how often the Hawks extend the defense.
He is disruptive at the point of in the zone press. Though his half court D is lacking.
 
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BS. I’m tired of seeing his thyroidectomy used as an excuse for his performance. My thyroid was removed 15 years ago. You get thyroid pills that are adjusted in dosage as you get occasional blood tests. All in all not a lasting effect beyond taking a pill every day.

Something else is going on.
Just my guess. I think he probably reads post like these all the time. Maybe he's addicted to social media. If I read these boards, I'd have serious doubts about my own abilities, and whether or not I am hurting my team. Like I said, just my guess.
 
To bad we can’t all be Duke, Kansas, NC, etc…..

But then again we’d still be mad when we didn’t win🤷‍♂️ kinda make you wonder why more people don’t coach as easy as it is….oh wait…🤔
 
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