Biden to Meet With His Family on Sunday
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This is all being discussed behind closed doors. If Biden exits, there’s a chance he makes his delegates pledge to support Kamala because she’s already on the ticket. If he says to send it to the convention, then there will be choices. I personally think he’s staying in the race and if he leaves, it’ll be Kamala.
I get the need for anyone but Trump. But really? Harris or Newsom? California is a shithole and that’s on Newsom. And you want that to spread to the rest of the country?
Joe will stay. Jill is a selfish you know what. Joe will lose by the largest margin ever. The dems will lose both the senate and house. Mtg might become speaker of the house. These things actually seem plausible. Some people on here will continue to live in blissful denial.
Those state laws don’t have provisions for death or incapacitation? How can they commit to a candidate on state ballots when we are currently seven weeks before the convention. We don’t have an official nominee.
I don’t know the source but this sounds like more disinformation from Team Jill.
Too many people are openly against Joe staying on. Jill isn’t going to have a choice. It may take donors throwing their weight around and threatening to cut off funds but this won’t be allowed to continue more than a few days.
It's more like not trusting the Trump judges. Rs will absolutely sue to keep a new nominee off the ballot.
That is a genuine concern but it is a far greater risk to run, what is now being referred to by overseas press, a cadaver. That will result in the biggest landslide of all time and will provide a mandate for Project 2025 and the permanent TRUMP dictatorship.
do you think whomever it is would have to have obama's blessing? well, not michelle, she's already got it.
That's why I favor replacing Harris. It mitigates these lawsuits, Gretchen brings Michigan and other Midwest states with her. It sets her up nicely in 2028. And it comforts voters that we are in good hands when Biden goes down.
I just saw a poll where whitmer polls 4 or 5 points lower than biden- against trump. she will get beat worse than biden. so yes please bring her on!!
SIAP- I know this won't happen but I wonder if Biden's cabinet removing him due to his impairments would make an open convention any easier to hold.
"The 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which governs presidential succession, says that the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet may vote to declare a president “unable to discharge the powers and the duties of his office” and give the vice president the duties of acting president."
"The 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which governs presidential succession, says that the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet may vote to declare a president “unable to discharge the powers and the duties of his office” and give the vice president the duties of acting president."
I was distracted by her face, tons of makeup and looked like she just had surgery. I couldn't listen.
She's smart just not for politics. Which is why we need to dump her. She is less popular than Hillary and was such a lousy candidate that she didn't even make it to the primaries before dropping out. Math just isn't matching to keep her.
You truly can't believe this. You know what happens if Trump gets elected? In 4 years we will elect someone else. That's it.
Dude. He can’t even vote for himself. What a crazy world we live in when you can be on the ballot AND now being the leading candidate, yet you can’t even vote for yourself because you are a felon. Strange times indeed.
Wrong. He wont leave until he dies. That will be his primary goal the next four years. He will purge every last safeguard to dismantle the two term limit.
I don't believe the coup de grace option would be accepted by most democrats. I also believe that Harris or any of the cabinet would have the balls to employ it without universal approval of any democrat in power (congress or senate, living past pres, money donors).
I've been reading these threads since Thursday. Maybe Joe steps down of his own volition, maybe he doesn't (I think he stays). I do know that there has been much hand wringing on here and I think it is unwarranted. I watched the debate, and it was bad, but not nearly as bad as reported.
Simple solution is to replace Harris with a moderate or someone who is likeable to all Americans, Joe invokes the 25th, new VEEP takes over. I know that was suggested, just saying that would be preferable.
The meeting is an intervention with Jill. Biden will be feeding ducks or something
Jan 6 actually happened despite your willingness to ignore it. Trump is a cancer. The world has lost faith in the US regardless who wins in November. We are witnessing the rapid decline of our country. If you think what is happening is BAU and of no concern then you are delusional.
Hey, I'll say it again. That would be great. Obama 2028/32/36
I really don’t see what specifically will change no matter who wins besides opinions and people’s mood.
US will still have the strongest military.
US will still be the driving force for world economy.
US will still be the world’s piggy bank.
US will still set debt records.
China is screwed long term because of their aging population.
If the Dem powers that be genuinely think Kamala is presidential caliber, they might want to suggest Biden resign as President so that Harris can BE PRESIDENT for the next 4 months.
Some may recall that I suggested something similar many months ago - namely that Biden needed to give Harris some high profile, important jobs/projects so she could be in the limelight, strut her stuff, and prove that she has what it takes.
To some extent that may have happened. She was briefly active on the border, also on abortion, and a little on Ukraine. But the impact (for me, at least) was underwhelming. Whether that's because she underperformed, or because the media ignored her, I don't know.
SO . . . on the one hand the Rs predictably mock and lie about Harris while, on the other, she has not stood out or dispelled doubts.
I'm left thinking that it's probably too late for Kamala. As I said before, the Dems need someone who can generate excitement. That's simply not Kamala.
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I wish. SCOTUS will probably allow red states to kick anybody they don't like off their ballots. I have zero faith in them.
As much as you want to keep trying to make this about Trump, this is all about Joe…which means Trump wins.
The people who decide elections, you know, who write columns nobody reads except politicians and the Pod Save America hosts
I think we're underestimating the PRESS in this discussion.
In 2004 Howard Dean was running an excellent center-left, anti-war campaign, leading the media and DLC-preferred candidate John Kerry.
Then came "the scream." It was nothing but the media and the Dem power brokers instantly blew it way out of proportion to destroy Dean. It was all they had and they milked it for all it was worth.
As of now, a few in the media have called for Biden to withdraw from the race. But despite 100 times the provocation, there's no firestorm.
Why the difference? All I can think of is that Biden is the insider's choice; whereas Dean was an upstart. Sort of like the Hillary vs Bernie situation.
In 2004 Howard Dean was running an excellent center-left, anti-war campaign, leading the media and DLC-preferred candidate John Kerry.
Then came "the scream." It was nothing but the media and the Dem power brokers instantly blew it way out of proportion to destroy Dean. It was all they had and they milked it for all it was worth.
As of now, a few in the media have called for Biden to withdraw from the race. But despite 100 times the provocation, there's no firestorm.
Why the difference? All I can think of is that Biden is the insider's choice; whereas Dean was an upstart. Sort of like the Hillary vs Bernie situation.
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