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My bad Pollard didn't cut Baseball or the other sports. He just claimed that with his financial genius he would bring them back.
So much for being a financial genius. Or maybe isu just isn't stable enough financially.
https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/new-iowa-state-ad-plans-to-bring-mens-swimming-back/
If you read the article he did say 3 to 8 years in the future, since it was written 2006, I would say that either ISU thought it was not viable, or they did not see the need. Pollard has said in regard to bringing back baseball, it would not be happening, unless a large booster would come forward with the money. The costs of running a bb program at ISU with the travel, just does not make sense. Now if they had unlimited funds like Texas or Oregon, why not. That is not ISU, they still have the smallest budget among the big 12 schools.
"Struggled to find wins..." that just might qualify as the understatement of the century!
Pollard was fortuitous in that he was in place when huge revenue jumps to conferences occurred. He had very little to do with the change in fortune. Or, maybe you can explain why it was that isu continued to take State of Iowa money to supplement its needy athletic department right to the bitter end (circa: 2011 which was five years into the 'financial genius' tenure). Idolize him all you want, it is what delusional isu fans are best at doing, but he is no more responsible for the financial gain than the man in the moon.
Take your argument for Rhoads to the person authoring the article/report. It is his data, not mine. You revert to denial mode each and every time someone successfully refutes one of your rather nefarious claims. Too bad for you.
Those attendance records are at levels seen elsewhere in this state multiple decades ago. You are making more of something than is there. The question you should be asking is why not one of the conference games were close to being sold out to demonstrate the ultra-loyalty of the isu fan base.
If you are a financial genius you don't need a large booster to come bail you out. If you are a financial genius you don't start and stay as the smallest budget in the big 12.
Supposedly he has more resources than he knows what to do with... where is the addition of sports? Shouldn't this 'leading' educational institution be closer to the mark on the number of opportunities (athletic scholarships and total number of athletes) than where it currently stands? There is a disconnect somewhere and it is fairly obvious to most others.
Why do you spend nearly every single day trolling (quite poorly) an Iowa message board? You bring nothing of value.
You know where a large portion of that money is going, to improve the football field, and build up the rest of the sports stadiums. I would think the next project is increasing the press box and suites for the well to do crowd. If they can find the money in the future, I would think, ISU will offer more sports,if the money is there.
But if Pollard is the financial genius isu fans claim then why can't he simply do what he said he would do?
If he isn't good at his job you shouldn't dislike him as a rival fan, that doesn't make sense
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Look, I was not the one that said he was a financial genius, what I said and believe is Pollard has done a great job as the AD at ISU. Look at the football field before he came and now, the bb practice complex, the football complex and other things. ISU will never have the money Iowa does, but they are making it work. They are in the black and have been for the past 3 or 4 years, if they were not the BOR would be all over them to cut back. That has not happened, so he must be doing something right. Now just win more at fb.
So now the definition of a great AD isn't the sports a school offers or how well they do in those sports it is about the facilities they build.
8 wins in 3 years is making it work.
You were the one who said he was a financial genius. All I did is show just how myopic that view is. If he is so awesome at his job why hasn't he been recognized nationally for it the way Barta has?
http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...tor-gary-barta-earns-national-honor/81205804/
So let me get this straight, Pollard is a bad AD and you are trying to convince ISU fans that he's bad at his job? If he was so bad at his job you'd think you be happy ISU fans like him and want to keep him. Do you want him on the hot seat or something?
Try reading son. You might like it. It was a cy fan that said Pollard was a financial genius. I simply pointed out the fallacy of that statement. I also went on to say that if Pollard was a awesome as cy fans claim then why isn't he winning national awards the way Barta is?
If a Hawkeye fan told me Barta was a financial genius I wouldn't correct them. As an Iowa State fan I hope he is a lifer in Iowa City.
With all the success Barta has actually brought to Iowa and being recognized nationally for it we are in agreement.
I hope isu keeps Pollard forever. His press-conferences and billboards will keep isu in the position they have always been.
Do you also agree that all that Pollard has really done is keep isu in the place they have always been?
Not at all, as others have pointed out in past football hires ISU needed help to pay their salaries where now he can do whatever he wants. Plus look at the facility upgrades and our basketball program. I still don't get why anyone would try to convince a rival fan base that their AD is bad at their job, what's next, Iowa fans will start a petition to fire Pollard because he's so bad?
If he can do whatever he wants then why doesn't he just do what he said he would do and bring back the 3 sports?
The "financial genius" as you call Pollard, is borrowing more than half the football facility upgrade. Do all financial geniuses believe adding tens of millions of debt is a good thing?
Only an isu fan would say they want a National Award winner of an AD around for a long time at their biggest rival. What is next you also want KF to win more Big 10 and National Coach of the year awards?
Better get that petition fired up, I'm sure there are a ton of Hawkeye fans willing to sign it to get Pollard out the door for being so bad at his job.
Get that petition fired up. Clone fans are ready to run KF out the door. I mean he and Barta are both doing such a piss poor jobs that they are winning national awards.
Maybe you can share for us all the links showing the nationally recognized work being done in ames.
I've never wanted Barta and KF out the door to be completely honest. Same with Fran but I actually like and follow Iowa basketball, I can't say the same about liking football or wrestling
I've never wanted Barta and KF out the door to be completely honest. Same with Fran but I actually like and follow Iowa basketball, I can't say the same about liking football or wrestling
Iowa fans love Pollard. Who else can put isu into debt as far as he can? Who else can hire/extend underperforming coaches and run off the successful ones?
Jamie Pollard with his billboards and press-conferences are what makes isu isu.
"Has the BOR ever told any university, they are not allowed to do something." Yes, do you even read the paper/internet/anything?
"Its disingenuous at best, just more half truths and leaving out the rest of the story." Does anybody else see the irony in this? Wow is all I can say at times.
"You like to leave out the truth there 5 when it does not suit your way of framing the story to show Iowa in a positive light, but ISU always in a negative light." Flip the schools and then you have, well you. It's like deja vu all over again.
We do agree. Iowa will keep the national award winners and Iowa fans fully support isu keeping staff in place that make isu isu.
This is a canard and you know it, do you think Iowa will be paying for their new North end zone project with cash? Look in the Iowa budget, it listed under debt service. They will be borrowing just like most schools. ISU is no different, they are borrowing against future revenue.
Talking the Iowa BOR here, have they ever told Iowa or ISU what they could not do, on the subject of salary for a coach?
The role of the AD is basically three things.
1, Keep the money flowing into the program, glad handing the big donors and get them on board to finance the next project.
2. To present the school in the best image if a crisis occurs.
3. Hire competent coaches and provide them with every resource they need with in reason to be successful at that school. Each school would define its own level of success, and that can and does change. At Alabama, success is winning national championships, at Iowa it is winning the division and getting a new years day bowl. At ISU for the time being, its increasing the win total in football, making a bowl appearance every few years and making the NCAA tourney in BB and advancing to I would say the second weekend.
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