Iowa and Iowa State MBB Twitter accounts have the same amount of followers. That seems crazy to me
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Iowa and Iowa State MBB Twitter accounts have the same amount of followers. That seems crazy to me
So here we go again with comparisons, you have admitted academic fraud(fact) being lumped with title 9 issue(under investigation(not fact yet). You use the 'if' word again, if I could find an article about fan bases, if the title 9 issue is found to be true, it seems you stand on the 'if' side fairly often while the other side seems to have some facts on their side. Heck even if it is just 'tweeter' and my space.
FYI the academic fraud was in hiv research, you know the disease where people can die the title 9 issue is athletics where death is fairly rare and doesn't usually happen because of unequal scholarship limits or a mean coach. But compare the two all you want. Just remember one has been ajudicated the other hasn't.
The school with the bigger fan base has more tweeter locations, who would have thought that?
Must ignore. All that matters is a one day count of isu license plates at an I-Cubs game. isu grad will tell you so.
Yep by more than a 10:1 count. So much for the bogus estimate that Iowa was only bigger by 5 points.
The 5 points was only for the Des Moines Lowes and Menards parking lots. Albia, Bloomfield, seem to be trending that way as well because rural students are going to an Ag school, it is a new phenomenal discovery that has occurred.
Few if any of the kids down here going to ISU are going there to study Ag, most are in engineering or architecture.
I use "if" because the investigation has just begun, you know the incent until proven guilty type of thing. The academic fraud, was one professor at ISU, he was immediately fired for what he did. ISU did not try to cover it up, stand by him, they dismissed him from the school. I believe that Iowa has had a few professors doing less then honorable things in the past few years also. Does not make any of it right, just saying, this type of activity goes on everywhere. Who would have thought there would be an academic scandal at N. Carolina, but there was. You are implying that since ISU had this scandal its less than a research school, that all the research their is bogus or what? One guy faked his study on HIV. You like to google information, google how many academic scandals have occurred at universities,, I have and most are worse than this one. Does not make it better, the man was fired, ISU apologized, and placed new regulations on research.
As long as isu says they are sorry all must be forgotten.
Glad we cleared that up.
So if Iowa is found to be not 'incent' in this title 9 situation and apologizes and takes action we will never hear about it from you? That is good to know.
As it stands now Iowa is under investigation and is 'incent'.
It reminds me of the temper tantrum isu grads had when some of our football players had Rhybo. They went on and on and on and on and how everyone must be fired because it was so wrong and was going to cost taxpayers millions in lawsuits. Iowa was never going to be able to recruit and isu was going to become the dominant player in the state.
Ring a bell isu grad? Are we still waiting for your stellar views of the future to take place? Yep rinse and repeat. That is what having little bro syndrome is all about.
Silly isu grads clowns are to be laughed at and not taken seriously. But keep up the great work.
Name calling? It is there in your posts.... go back and read it all again. Then go back and find the previous posts where you, in your ever so hypocritical way, were criticizing others for the same actions.
I stated what I did regarding the pay to/of certain isu coaches based upon previous history and knowledge of the political climate of the BOR. There would have been an outcry from here to eternity had isu increased the guaranteed salary to the $3 million per year level immediately following the debacles of Chizik and Rhoads (recall that isu is paying $4.5 million for CPR not to coach in Ames this year.) To try to deny that is to only bury your head deeper into that posterior crevice of yours.
You know so little about 'the way it works' that it is comical and pathetic all at the same time. Already you have been given the example of David Beaty at Kansas; if salaries always increase at the same institutions, why is Beaty making so much less than Charlie Weiss did? Another example might be Paul Chryst at Wisconsin. Is he making more/less than Brett Bielema did just prior? Other examples, looking at it from a different perspective could include coaches like Tom Herman at Houston and Bobby Diaco at UConn. Both men highly regarded, up and coming in their profession yet neither were/are paid at the rate Chizik and Rhoads were at isu. Why is that?
As for one more consideration, take a look at coaches whom were paid handsomely prior to their present positions. Dennis Franchionne once coached at Bama... do you think he commands the same money now at Texas State? How about Bo Pelini? Is he making more now at Youngstown State than he did at Nebraska? Former Notre Dame coach Bob Davie is now the head man at New Mexico, but not nearly at the same contractual sum for the same job. Frank Solich, Larry Coker, Paul Rhoads.... there are plenty of examples of coaches willing and able to work for less doing basically the same thing.
You know as little about market dynamics and negotiating as might be expected of an overly obsessed isu fan here on HR. Keep flying the flag high because it is all you have and it is very cheap entertainment for the rest of us.
(BTW - Did I miss you identifying your previous screen names for us?)
Whoosh.... right over your head!
When both Chizik and Rhoads were hired, isu was dependent upon monies from the general fund of the State of Iowa. Every tax paying citizen could claim to be supporting the isu athletic department. (Now it is the parents/guardians paying tuition and exhorbitant 'student fees making up some of the difference.)
Bury yourself head first down to your waist. It will not change anything. isu is not able to pay any amount it so chooses for its head football coach. To suggest otherwise is foolish.
Hooray for 0C! He finally got something right.
It has merit to the conversation merely by the timing you mention. Both those coaches were hired by the current AD and were provided extensive sums for the resumes each had at the time of their respective hire. Recall that the isu coach in 2006 was fired with what, two or three games remaining to be played just so the person in charge could get the right man to lead isu to the next level.
How did that work out? Then it was on to hometown hero and he too was a bust, but not without nearly breaking the proverbial bank. Ten year, twenty plus million dollar deal. Sounds a whole lot alike egos writing checks that cannot be honored where it matters - on the field of play. Maybe McCarney was not the root of the problems after all?
Yes. Now it is 2016 and we have yet something new to add to the pile. Campbell somehow manages to wiggle an incentive that will pay him 250% (I know how isu fans love percentages) to do less than Paul Rhoads was expected to do just one year ago. Makes perfect sense to delusional and obsessed isu fans!
So to go back to my original question, why would you care what ISU plays their current football coach? That's weird
Yeah, its weird because you say it is.... get help.
Go away and you will not have to worry yourself about what others discuss here. That 0C will always be yours! No matter what.
But, just to play along (what else is there to do while waiting for your brother to return?), someone here was describing the AD from Ames as a "financial genius". Comparing the contracts of Chizik to Rhoads to Campbell does not exhibit any stretch of 'genius' whatsoever.
you said it yourself, the last two coaches he needed tax dollars to help pay for their salary and now he can do whatever incentives he wants because he's raised the money. Sounds like a financial genius to me.
I had a friend post a family reunion pic on Facebook, shit you not, I counted two ISU shirts and one Iowa shirt.
Times are changing.
You keep believing in your little fantasy.... no one here will be surprised by that.
When it all shakes itself out someday, will you be posting the same thing then?
Once a 0C, always the 0C.
We will only have to wait 5 years or so, when ISU is hiring the NDST coach claiming that NDST is better than half of the P5 teams since they beat Kansas and ISU.
An outcry from Iowa fans, yes, people like you would be raising hell. Has the BOR ever told any university, they are not allowed to do something. I would guess if Pollard wanted to pay a coach 3 million, and explain it to the board, then the board would say yes to the idea.
As you coaching going to a smaller school making less, no kidding. Campbell went from the Mac to the Big 12, his salary went up. No surprise in that. Your comment about Rhodes being the highest paid coach last year is typical you. Rhodes was paid his salary, and then his total buyout this past year. ISU could afford to do it, so they got the dead money off the books. Only you would then claim that Rhodes was the highest paid coach in the big 12 last year, only you. Its disingenuous at best, just more half truths and leaving out the rest of the story. But you are good at that. When someone brought up the Pierce rape case, you immediately stated two fb players at ISU that were accused of rape. What you left out, is one was tried by a jury of his peers and found not guilty, and then the charges were dropped against the other. Neither ever played another down of fb at ISU. You like to leave out the truth there 5 when it does not suit your way of framing the story to show Iowa in a positive light, but ISU always in a negative light.
More whining from the 5, I remember a time less than five year ago, the third highest paid coach at Iowa, was a man, that was no longer coaching basketball for the school. It continued for three years. It was Iowa's choice, ISU paid Rhodes all out at once, hell, maybe that is what the contract said. I do not know, and neither do you.
PP wasn't convicted of rape while at Iowa either. Amazing how pesky facts get in the way of an isu grads argument yet again.
You really are having trouble staying with the topic at hand, SC. Must be from posting all hours day and night.... and to think, you claim to be a grandpa!
The BOR routinely asserts itself, often where they are not necessary. By and large, it is nothing more than a politically motivated appointed group that feels it has more clout than it really does. I will stand by the statement that isu would not be allowed to pay Matt Campbell $3 million dollars per year guaranteed salary if, for no other reason the record from the previous two coaching hires is a strong indication of what might happen again.
Is Kansas in the big xii? What are they paying David Beaty? Oops - there goes the opinion that simply being in the big xiii commands more money be paid. You can make the analogy however with just this example. KU was paying $3.0 mil for Charlie Weiss. Charlie did not live up to his billing, the two part ways and ole Charlie is still collecting a tidy sum from KU and ND. Is that what you are so sheepishly trying to say in all of this? That isu is just as good at making hiring mistakes as KU and by gum, can afford the buyout no matter the cost. Only you can come up with something that stupid.
It is not me at all making claims about Paul Rhoads. Back in October of 2015, a person claiming to have a law degree and expertise in contracts did a piece on Paul Rhoads and most every other college coach. His metric of choice was average annual salary and according to his data from reviewing actual employment agreements, Paul Rhoads was one of the highest paid of the eight public institutions comprising the big xii. No link - as I told you before, it is out there and relatively easy to find. Go get 'em or continue to rant and rave and bay at the moon because that is what you do.
Campbell is the same coach that he was months ago. The only difference is the scenery. Simply arriving on site in the bastion of all things football hopeful is not reason enough to pay through the nose for the third coach hired by the same AD. He outfoxed this 'financial genius' that we keep hearing about. Either he will fail to meet expectations ala Chizik and Rhoads or he will have success at which time I think he will be on to bigger and better things than what Ames, Iowa can offer.
Do you really want to go down the path of which school has paid more for coaches NOT to be there? Think about it.
BTW... the contract stipulated the payout to be $750,000 multiplied by the remaining number of years. It is public record and not at all hard to find. Well, for most that is!
(I know, I know.... it just is not fair to introduce facts to one of your 'debates'.)
What fantasy am I believing? The last two football hires ISU needed tax paid dollars to pay for their coach. Now Pollard has brought in enough money we can give half a million dollar bonuses for winning 6 games. I$U has a financial genius as an AD
Go ahead and cite every other program paying that type of money for winning just six games...
Go ahead and cite any other program that has a financial genius like Jamie Pollard running their athletic department...
5 are you on the BOR? I would guess not, so do not come across and say what they will and will not do. Rhodes was not one of the highest paid coaches in the Big 12, go to the USA Today, and look at the data base. His salary was at best 9th ahead of the guy from Kansas. We now know that the Baylor coach was paid around 6 million, and the TCU coach makes 4 million. Both salaries have been reported on ESPN, in the past two weeks. I get it, you and a lot of people hate Pollard with a passion, but if you look at where ISU was at in the terms of money before he came to ISU and its current place he has been very successful. ISU has improved the football field, built a new training and locker rooms for football, built the bb training center, a new softball field and a new track. All under the watch of Pollard. The bb teams has made the NCAA 5 straight years, first time in school history, and will mostly likely make it 6 this fall. Yes, the football team has struggled to find wins, but attendance is at all time records. The man has made mistakes, in hiring, every AD does. The one thing Iowa fans hate about Pollard, the billboard, is one of the reasons, ISU fans like him. He showed to the ISU fan base, "we are not going to take a backseat to Iowa any longer." That is what pissed Iowa fans off.
The Auburn coach went 2-6 in the league last year, and was given a raise to four million a year. Auburn was last in the SEC West last year.
Wouldn't a financial genius be able to do so without cutting sports?
Yet isu still does take a back seat to Iowa. Will Pollard tell us how awesome isu is in the Directors Cup or is that only valid in select years that isu finishes above Iowa?
Pollard was not the one that cut baseball, that occurred before he got there, it was either Smith, current ad at OSU or Urick.
Iowa sure has not been showing that front seat against ISU on playing field these past few years. BB 1-5, FB 7-8. Are we still hoping for a fry run of 15 years or what? But Iowa leads the all time record, so that's what is important.
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