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Bohannon update....

You want Iowa's greatest shooter of all time and possible the best 3pt shooter in conference history to come off the bench after starting for three seasons?
Where do you think he should start? At the point over a junior McCaffery or at the 2 over sophomore Fredrick? He should absolutely be playing starter minutes, but Bohannon is an offensive specialist, and Iowa is finally getting some guys who can do a little bit of everything to where he no longer has to take on as large of a role as he has the past few years.

It isn’t a demotion, it’s utilizing him in a position where he can best help the team. Don’t really care if he starts or not, but I would have him coming off the bench but playing a lot of minutes.
 
what is his exact injury? Because this sounds identical to the predicament Spike Albrecht was in and then decided to shut it down senior season. He said at the time he was retiring. Then the next year he felt a little better and grad transferred to Purdue, but was still not the same player.
 
It's my understanding that Bohannon's diagnosis is a labral tear of the hip,... not sure which side...
 
“I haven’t really practiced at all,” Bohannon said. “Not to use that as an excuse. I just haven’t really been able to get into a rhythm this season. Like I said, just trying to come in and do what I can to help this team win.


So selfish :eek:

"I didn't get a lot of sleep Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, because these games are what I live for, playing in this type of environmente. I love to have the ball in my hands late game and try to make something happen."

Team of one.
 
No one has answered this question yet. Who is going to be willing to come off of a scholarship if Jordan returns next season? Till will probably go back to being a walk-on or leaving the program. Kriener graduates. Iowa signed 5 recruits for next year that will be on scholarship. Both McCaffery bothers are on scholarship and could relinquish their scholarships to allow for the program to be under the max of 13, or Connor could strictly play baseball and that would clear up the glut of 14 players, or Joe Wieskamp could opt to leave the program early.
What other options will Fran have to keep the scholarship max of 13 or under for next year?
If Jordan returns I can see either 1 of the 2 - 2020 guard recruits asking out of their commitment or Joe T. transferring, but having 5 or 6 guards vying for minutes next year is crazy. Someone will be left out in the cold.
 
Where do you think he should start? At the point over a junior McCaffery or at the 2 over sophomore Fredrick? He should absolutely be playing starter minutes, but Bohannon is an offensive specialist, and Iowa is finally getting some guys who can do a little bit of everything to where he no longer has to take on as large of a role as he has the past few years.

It isn’t a demotion, it’s utilizing him in a position where he can best help the team. Don’t really care if he starts or not, but I would have him coming off the bench but playing a lot of minutes.

Yes he should be playing over McCaffery. lol
 
I will be surprised if he doesn't play against ISU. See Pemsl last season.

Oh GTFO of here with this.

Its just like Naz during the season he took a medical hardship. He played up until the Iowa game and then shut it down. Its nothing like Pemsl last season.
 
Oh GTFO of here with this.

Its just like Naz during the season he took a medical hardship. He played up until the Iowa game and then shut it down. Its nothing like Pemsl last season.

Weird thing to take offense over.
 
Yes he should be playing over McCaffery. lol
You seem to “lol” at a lot of comments without ever providing any sort of substance to back it up. It is early in the year, so of course the body of work is too small to really make any firm judgements on players, but Connor has been one of our three most efficient offensive players this year, trailing only Fredrick and Garza. Beyond that, he actually has the ability to defend three, and at times, four, positions effectively.

Additionally, Bohannon will be coming off a full year of not having played in a competitive basketball game, and Connor will he entering his third straight season of play.

If you want to hold the opinion that Jordan should come back and immediately hold the starting point guard spot, fine. But having a different opinion isn’t that egregious. And, as I said, I believe that regardless of whether or not he starts, Jordan should be logging starter minutes. It would just be nice to have quality two way players starting the game
 
You seem to “lol” at a lot of comments without ever providing any sort of substance to back it up. It is early in the year, so of course the body of work is too small to really make any firm judgements on players, but Connor has been one of our three most efficient offensive players this year, trailing only Fredrick and Garza. Beyond that, he actually has the ability to defend three, and at times, four, positions effectively.

Additionally, Bohannon will be coming off a full year of not having played in a competitive basketball game, and Connor will he entering his third straight season of play.

If you want to hold the opinion that Jordan should come back and immediately hold the starting point guard spot, fine. But having a different opinion isn’t that egregious. And, as I said, I believe that regardless of whether or not he starts, Jordan should be logging starter minutes. It would just be nice to have quality two way players starting the game

I’ve noticed that too Uno. LOL is the weakest response as it usually signifies you don’t have a valid response or you are wrong and know it but don’t want to admit it.
 
No one has answered this question yet. Who is going to be willing to come off of a scholarship if Jordan returns next season? Till will probably go back to being a walk-on or leaving the program. Kriener graduates. Iowa signed 5 recruits for next year that will be on scholarship. Both McCaffery bothers are on scholarship and could relinquish their scholarships to allow for the program to be under the max of 13, or Connor could strictly play baseball and that would clear up the glut of 14 players, or Joe Wieskamp could opt to leave the program early.
What other options will Fran have to keep the scholarship max of 13 or under for next year?
If Jordan returns I can see either 1 of the 2 - 2020 guard recruits asking out of their commitment or Joe T. transferring, but having 5 or 6 guards vying for minutes next year is crazy. Someone will be left out in the cold.

I don’t understand the Joe T transferring that I have seen multiple people say. There is zero indication that is even a possibility at this point. They lose Kreiner, Evelyn, and I’m sure Till. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pemsl graduates and plays his final year somewhere else or hangs it up due to so many injuries. Than I’m sure Fran is thinking that in this day and age, it’s likely to lose at least one player to transfer or he expects Wieskamp to look again to NBA. He has the luxury if everyone does return to roll his kids off scholarship.
 
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It seems pretty black and white to me. If Fran misleads the entire fan base, the AD and Jordan and his family....one of the most popular Hawkeye basketball players in 30 years and deprives everyone of his senior season because of his mismanagement, it would probably cost him his job. I'd like to think Fran, having been around the college basketball basically his whole life, and our compliance people know the rules well enough to know this is 100%.
A little over the top there, of course IMO.
 
I don’t understand the Joe T transferring that I have seen multiple people say. There is zero indication that is even a possibility at this point. They lose Kreiner, Evelyn, and I’m sure Till. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pemsl graduates and plays his final year somewhere else or hangs it up due to so many injuries. Than I’m sure Fran is thinking that in this day and age, it’s likely to lose at least one player to transfer or he expects Wieskamp to look again to NBA. He has the luxury if everyone does return to roll his kids off scholarship.

There could certainly be some surprise changes in Iowa's roster come next season.
 
Oh GTFO of here with this.

Its just like Naz during the season he took a medical hardship. He played up until the Iowa game and then shut it down. Its nothing like Pemsl last season.
Yeah. Pensl played it that one game only, nyet?

I wasn't being critical. You are correct that it's what Naz did, and I'm sure the desire to play against the Hawks was part of the reason, perhaps the main reason. I was just just making an observation.
 
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Look at it this way. By getting the 10 games in this year he could end this season with around 290 career made 3 pointers. The all time record is 374. He could have a legitimate shot at the all time record if he takes a redshirt.
 
Yeah. Pensl played it that one game only, nyet?

I wasn't being critical. You are correct that it's what Naz did, and I'm sure the desire to play against the Hawks was part of the reason, perhaps the main reason. I was just just making an observation.

Nyet. He played against UMKC before the ISU game.
 
No one has answered this question yet. Who is going to be willing to come off of a scholarship if Jordan returns next season? Till will probably go back to being a walk-on or leaving the program. Kriener graduates. Iowa signed 5 recruits for next year that will be on scholarship. Both McCaffery bothers are on scholarship and could relinquish their scholarships to allow for the program to be under the max of 13, or Connor could strictly play baseball and that would clear up the glut of 14 players, or Joe Wieskamp could opt to leave the program early.
What other options will Fran have to keep the scholarship max of 13 or under for next year?
If Jordan returns I can see either 1 of the 2 - 2020 guard recruits asking out of their commitment or Joe T. transferring, but having 5 or 6 guards vying for minutes next year is crazy. Someone will be left out in the cold.

Ulis was ranked in the like 240ish rank and the other guard coming in is somewhere in the mid 300s. I'm thinking they knew the competition for playing time would be pretty uphill as freshmen. Plus, we're their only major offers I think, they're thrilled to get a chance to play in the Big Ten.
 
You seem to “lol” at a lot of comments without ever providing any sort of substance to back it up. It is early in the year, so of course the body of work is too small to really make any firm judgements on players, but Connor has been one of our three most efficient offensive players this year, trailing only Fredrick and Garza. Beyond that, he actually has the ability to defend three, and at times, four, positions effectively.

Additionally, Bohannon will be coming off a full year of not having played in a competitive basketball game, and Connor will he entering his third straight season of play.

If you want to hold the opinion that Jordan should come back and immediately hold the starting point guard spot, fine. But having a different opinion isn’t that egregious. And, as I said, I believe that regardless of whether or not he starts, Jordan should be logging starter minutes. It would just be nice to have quality two way players starting the game

Connor has been more efficient because he's NOT playing PG when JBO and JoeT are in the game. He's a distributor/role player guy. He still can't hit a 3pt shot at better than 31% clip and he can't drive by any P5 PG because he is too slow. HE's doing pretty well as a 2nd PG in 3 or 4 guard system and getting some inside fadeaways/drives vs bigger/slower players.
 
I don’t understand the Joe T transferring that I have seen multiple people say. There is zero indication that is even a possibility at this point. They lose Kreiner, Evelyn, and I’m sure Till. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pemsl graduates and plays his final year somewhere else or hangs it up due to so many injuries. Than I’m sure Fran is thinking that in this day and age, it’s likely to lose at least one player to transfer or he expects Wieskamp to look again to NBA. He has the luxury if everyone does return to roll his kids off scholarship.
I don't know if Joe W will be "Looking" at the NBA, but at this point its highly unlikely they will be "Looking" at him. Joe will be a very good college player, IF he lets the game come to him, but he's a long way from being NBA ready.....
 
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I look for JBo to sit out MI (which I think we stand little chance of winning) and then play against MN, @ ISU, and Cinn in Chicago. The latter 3 winnable games, the first one - not really.

He has played in 7 games, he has 10 to play and should put him in a position of compliance with the medical hardship waiver.
 
Connor has been more efficient because he's NOT playing PG when JBO and JoeT are in the game. He's a distributor/role player guy. He still can't hit a 3pt shot at better than 31% clip and he can't drive by any P5 PG because he is too slow. HE's doing pretty well as a 2nd PG in 3 or 4 guard system and getting some inside fadeaways/drives vs bigger/slower players.
He was efficient last year too, pretty much exclusively playing PG. I don’t really agree that he can’t drive by any P6 guard. He doesn’t seem to try very hard to get in the lane, but when he does, he gets that floater which he seems to always bank in. His lack of athleticism is overstated imo. He’s done well posting up smaller guards as well
 
I look for JBo to sit out MI (which I think we stand little chance of winning) and then play against MN, @ ISU, and Cinn in Chicago. The latter 3 winnable games, the first one - not really.

He has played in 7 games, he has 10 to play and should put him in a position of compliance with the medical hardship waiver.
What’s the latest he can play his 10th game? Prior to new year?
 
Connor has been more efficient because he's NOT playing PG when JBO and JoeT are in the game. He's a distributor/role player guy. He still can't hit a 3pt shot at better than 31% clip and he can't drive by any P5 PG because he is too slow. HE's doing pretty well as a 2nd PG in 3 or 4 guard system and getting some inside fadeaways/drives vs bigger/slower players.

Use some logic. That would not explain his efficiency rating last year.
 
What’s the latest he can play his 10th game? Prior to new year?

I believe, based on my interpretation of the medical hardship rule, that he can play 30% or 9.3 games (based on a my earlier calculation I did about a month ago, I don't feel like validating again) so they must round up to 10 games. That is what the number of games coming from the IA camp. Furthermore, he can only play in the first half of the season which puts it into January as I recall (again, based on my recollection from the assessment I did about a month ago).

All that tells me he skips MI and plays MN, ISU, Cinn. This statement being total conjecture on my part mind you.
 
Oh GTFO of here with this.

Its just like Naz during the season he took a medical hardship. He played up until the Iowa game and then shut it down. Its nothing like Pemsl last season.

Certainly similarities, but not exactly the same. Both are playing within the defined rules, so I have no problem with it. I don’t remember if the rule has changed, but in the 15-16 season, I believe Naz played in 8 games and that was what he was allowed for the medical redshirt. Iowa was his last game as it was the 8th game on the schedule (they did have one exhibition game that didn’t count towards the 8).

I believe (from what I have read) that Jordan can play 10 games and still get a medical redshirt. ISU will be the 11th game in Iowa’s schedule (not counting the exhibition game), so to be able to play in game number 11, Jordan would have had to skip one of the first ten, which he did. Was it because of pain and he couldn’t play, or because he wanted to play against ISU? I don’t know. However, Jordan has been quoted as saying Iowa State game has a lot more weight to it than most games https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/s...caffery-joe-wieskamp-cy-hawk-game/2216782002/. The whole Super Bowl comment gets thrown back and forth to get under others’ skin, but there is no denying this is a rivalry game for both teams, even if it isn’t a conference game.
 
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I don't know if Joe W will be "Looking" at the NBA, but at this point its highly unlikely they will be "Looking" at him. Joe will be a very good college player, IF he lets the game come to him, but he's a long way from being NBA ready.....

I totally agree. I meant that going into the year I’m sure Fran and Joe have talked and understand that Wieskamp’s intention is to get to the NBA as much as possible and might at least explore that option again after the season. As you said, there is still a lot of work to do on his end.
 
He was efficient last year too, pretty much exclusively playing PG. I don’t really agree that he can’t drive by any P6 guard. He doesn’t seem to try very hard to get in the lane, but when he does, he gets that floater which he seems to always bank in. His lack of athleticism is overstated imo. He’s done well posting up smaller guards as well

You are correct. People don’t like the way he drives because it isn’t pretty or fast and with fancy ball handling. But he is capable of methodically driving in the lane and using his strength and length.
 
Yeah, if his hip hurts that bad that he isn't practicing at the beginning of the season I have to imagine he is going to shut it down. Hopefully he isn't doing any additional damage or setting himself back in his recovery. But shows what kind of teammate he is.
A few years back Naz Long did the exact same thing for Iowa State. Played ten in pain and shut it down....it was basically to bridge the gap until Burton became eligible at semester.

Anyway, at first I was wondering why Jordan would play at all but it makes sense to me now. He's basically bridging the gap until Joe T get's up to speed. Help steal a couple early season W's. We don't beat TTech without him. Give time for Joe T and a lesser degree Fredrick to develop and be ready for the B1G.

Hopefully Jordan catches fire in his last game in Hilton and then shuts it down.
 
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