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Caitlin ends her Iowa Career with 3,951 Points (NCAA & All-Time "Large School" Record). Megan Gustafson finished at 2,804

Update on # games needed to break the record:


Year: Points Scored
2021: 799 (30 games).................26.6 ppg
2022: 863 (32 games)..................27.0 ppg
2023: 984 (36 games so far)......27.3 ppg
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2,646 Total Points so far.............27.0 ppg Career Ave (98 Games)
3,527 NCAA Record
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882 Points needed to Break the record

Looks like she needs 33 games to do it
(27 ppg x 33 games = 891)


NOTE: during the 2022-2023 season (36 games) we played 29 reg season games, 3 B1G tourney games, and 4 NCAA tourney games to get to our current 30-6 record. Next season we should expect around 34 games (29 reg season games plus HOPEFULLY AT LEAST 2 B1G tourney games and 3 NCAA tourney games).



For GOAT Reference:

2,804 Career Points, MEGAN GUSTAFSON (#25 in NCAA History)

...........20.8 ppg, 2015-2019, 135 GP
 
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Update on # games needed to break the record:


Year: Points Scored
2021: 799 (30 games).................26.6 ppg
2022: 863 (32 games)..................27.0 ppg
2023: 984 (36 games so far)......27.3 ppg
........................................................
2,646 Total Points so far.............27.0 ppg Career Ave (98 Games)
3,527 NCAA Record
........................................................
882 Points needed to Break the record

Looks like she needs 33 games to do it
(27 ppg x 33 games = 891)



For GOAT Reference:

2,804 Career Points, MEGAN GUSTAFSON (#25 in NCAA History)

...........20.8 ppg, 2015-2019, 135 GP
Will we get two more years of her at Iowa? My gut says yes.
1. She can make as much money in NIL
2. She is having fun and is close to the team and coach.
 
Maddy Seigrest from Villanova is not using her Covid year and going to the WNBA draft after four years, so Caitlin will have a fair chance to break the NCAA all time scoring record next year in four seasons. Now if she did use her fifth year she could also beat the AIAW record (pre-NCAA) of Lynette Woodard that is another 127 points higher than Kelsey Plum's NCAA record. Saw Woodard with the Globetrotters here in Sioux City back in elementary school and she actually played the first couple years of the WNBA even though she was already 37 years old when it started.
 
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Will we get two more years of her at Iowa? My gut says yes.
1. She can make as much money in NIL
2. She is having fun and is close to the team and coach.
I agree, I think CC will take her optional fifth year at Iowa and establish some NCAA records that will stand perhaps in perpetuity.
 
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Will we get two more years of her at Iowa? My gut says yes.
1. She can make as much money in NIL
2. She is having fun and is close to the team and coach.
I agree, I think CC will take her optional fifth year at Iowa and establish some NCAA records that will stand perhaps in perpetuity.

It will be interesting to see what happens after next year. Do you think she'll have enough talented returning teammates after next season where she'll want to make another go of it? Or will she be ready to move on to the next challenge? Only she knows for sure....and she probably doesn't have an answer yet.

Also, can you help me determine how many games Iowa is expected to play next year in the regular season? Then I would conservatively add on 2 games for the B1G tourney and 3 games for the NCAA tourney. It's going to be really close on her breaking the record next season.

EDIT: This season we played 29 reg season games, 3 B1G tourney games, and 4 NCAA tourney games to get to our current 30-6 record.
 
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It will be interesting to see what happens after next year. Do you think she'll have enough talented returning teammates after next season where she'll want to make another go of it?

I would imagine she'd be a big draw for some talented grad transfers (or regular transfers) to come play with her at Iowa for a year or two, if that's something Bluder is interested in with Monica and Warnock leaving.
 
Will we get two more years of her at Iowa? My gut says yes.
1. She can make as much money in NIL
2. She is having fun and is close to the team and coach.
I agree with your comments.

I think given she can cash in at Iowa, loves to play collegiate BBall, and can favorably impact the sport more at Iowa/college. Do not underestimate the lack of appeal of the NWBA, her appreciation of the sellout crowds, and better TV coverage than NWBA.

IMO, I think she stays two more years unless there is some type of uncontrollable event.
 
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I agree with your comments.

I think given she can cash in at Iowa, loves to play collegiate BBall, and can favorably impact the sport more at Iowa/college. Do not underestimate the lack of appeal of the NWBA, her appreciation of the sellout crowds, and better TV coverage than NWBA.

IMO, I think she stays two more years unless there is some type of uncontrollable event.

I hope she stays 5 years. What's nice for her is she doesn't have to decide for another year.

To play devil's advocate:

* She's reached her goal of making a Final 4.

* She likely will become the NCAA's all time leading scorer by the end of next season

* What if she is not too hopeful about the Iowa roster for 2024-2025 and decides it's time for a new challenge?

* She said recently that she would not necessarily be taking a pay cut if she moved on to the WNBA

* She likes challenges and I am guessing transforming the WNBA is one of them
 
I hope she stays 5 years. What's nice for her is she doesn't have to decide for another year.

To play devil's advocate:

* She's reached her goal of making a Final 4.

* She likely will become the NCAA's all time leading scorer by the end of next season

* What if she is not too hopeful about the Iowa roster for 2024-2025 and decides it's time for a new challenge?

* She said recently that she would not necessarily be taking a pay cut if she moved on to the WNBA

* She likes challenges and I am guessing transforming the WNBA is one of them
All true but the collegiate game is a place that the WNBA cannot replicate in my opinion. WNBA is business and college is about friendships, last time to be a carefree young adult, parents/siblings close, etc. Guess we will find out at some point in 2024.
 
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Here's to Caitlin Clark playing two more games and averaging 40 points. Which is safe to say Iowa will have won the national championship -- I doubt LSU or Va Tech can handle Clark scoring 40 points. Gets on to No. 3 in the single season scoring record.
 
I hope she stays 5 years. What's nice for her is she doesn't have to decide for another year.

To play devil's advocate:

* She's reached her goal of making a Final 4.

* She likely will become the NCAA's all time leading scorer by the end of next season

* What if she is not too hopeful about the Iowa roster for 2024-2025 and decides it's time for a new challenge?

* She said recently that she would not necessarily be taking a pay cut if she moved on to the WNBA

* She likes challenges and I am guessing transforming the WNBA is one of them
I find that highly unlikely. Some have reported that her NIL endorsement deals were already at $1.0 M+ and that was before the Nike apparel deal was made. Her marketability continues to increase and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. She would definitely be taking an overall pay cut in the WNBA (despite a salary for actually playing) as her marketing deals will fall off quite a bit. No one tracks with the WNBA, but women's college basketball interest is on a steep increase. Every young girl in the US who plays basketball knows who Caitlin is and that she's the current face of women's college basketball. She should milk that until the cow runs dry.
 
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If she would stay at Iowa for five years, it's highly unlikely any player could ever come close to her career scoring stats since four years is the standard.
Would she want an asterisk by her scoring mark because of Covid?
Maybe it doesn't matter.

If she stays healthy, she obviously could break the mark in four, but without the inside threat of Monica, I think she'll be even more heavily guarded next season.
 
Would she want an asterisk by her scoring mark because of Covid?
Maybe it doesn't matter.

If she stays healthy, she obviously could break the mark in four, but without the inside threat of Monica, I think she'll be even more heavily guarded next season.
About that asterisk: Clark scored 1847 her sophomore and junior years (plus a few in the Final Four). Add a fairly conservative 1800 in two more years, and she ends up scoring 3647 in four consecutive years, topping the 3,527 NCAA Record. No asterisk needed.
 
About that asterisk: Clark scored 1847 her sophomore and junior years (plus a few in the Final Four). Add a fairly conservative 1800 in two more years, and she ends up scoring 3647 in four consecutive years, topping the 3,527 NCAA Record. No asterisk needed.
I think it's a very real possibility she breaks the record in four years.

My asterisk comment is if she doesn't and blows past the record in a fifth season.
 
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I find that highly unlikely. Some have reported that her NIL endorsement deals were already at $1.0 M+ and that was before the Nike apparel deal was made. Her marketability continues to increase and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. She would definitely be taking an overall pay cut in the WNBA (despite a salary for actually playing) as her marketing deals will fall off quite a bit. No one tracks with the WNBA, but women's college basketball interest is on a steep increase. Every young girl in the US who plays basketball knows who Caitlin is and that she's the current face of women's college basketball. She should milk that until the cow runs dry.

You think that Caitlin would definitely be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA. However, when asked if she would be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA, Caitlin said, and I quote, "not necessarily."

You also said that "marketing deals will fall off quite a bit" when she heads to the WNBA. How do you know that? Have you talked to Hy-Vee, Nike, H&R Block, etc, to see if they'd drop her? Of course not. But you know who probably has? Caitlin & her family.
 
You think that Caitlin would definitely be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA. However, when asked if she would be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA, Caitlin said, and I quote, "not necessarily."

You also said that "marketing deals will fall off quite a bit" when she heads to the WNBA. How do you know that? Have you talked to Hy-Vee, Nike, H&R Block, etc, to see if they'd drop her? Of course not. But you know who probably has? Caitlin & her family.
Exactly. There are people watching womens basketball just to see her play. I imagine many will continue to watch her in the WNBA. Whoever drafts her is likely to get a major bump in ticket sales.
 
You think that Caitlin would definitely be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA. However, when asked if she would be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA, Caitlin said, and I quote, "not necessarily."

You also said that "marketing deals will fall off quite a bit" when she heads to the WNBA. How do you know that? Have you talked to Hy-Vee, Nike, H&R Block, etc, to see if they'd drop her? Of course not. But you know who probably has? Caitlin & her family.
It's not for sure though, but she's talented and marketable enough to possibly eclipse $1 M+ of NIL money a year. There's only a handful of WNBA stars that have endorsements in excess of $1 M a year, which is why so many of them play overseas and in the WNBA. No guarantee that Caitlin's current endorsements would continue or stay at the same level of compensation either.
 
It's not for sure though, but she's talented and marketable enough to possibly eclipse $1 M+ of NIL money a year. There's only a handful of WNBA stars that have endorsements in excess of $1 M a year, which is why so many of them play overseas and in the WNBA. No guarantee that Caitlin's current endorsements would continue or stay at the same level of compensation either.

Again, Caitlin and her family know way more than any of us. And when asked if she'd be taking a pay cut by heading to the WNBA her reply was "not necessarily."
 
It will be interesting to see what happens after next year. Do you think she'll have enough talented returning teammates after next season where she'll want to make another go of it? Or will she be ready to move on to the next challenge? Only she knows for sure....and she probably doesn't have an answer yet.

Also, can you help me determine how many games Iowa is expected to play next year in the regular season? Then I would conservatively add on 2 games for the B1G tourney and 3 games for the NCAA tourney. It's going to be really close on her breaking the record next season.

EDIT: This season we played 29 reg season games, 3 B1G tourney games, and 4 NCAA tourney games to get to our current 30-6 record.
She appeared close with Hannah. Overall, I agree that is the key.
 
I think Clark is gone after four years. She wants to be the best of the best, and play the best of the best. Staying in college isn't her MO.

Why limit herself to NCAA records? Soon she will be targeting WNBA records, and beyond.
 
I think Clark is gone after four years. She wants to be the best of the best, and play the best of the best. Staying in college isn't her MO.

Why limit herself to NCAA records? Soon she will be targeting WNBA records, and beyond.
Completely disagree. I don't know if she comes back for year 5, but I do know after watching countless interviews and video clips is that she loves the experience, environment, and playing with her friends. I genuinely believe she comes back because she wants to see it through, all the huge crowds at Carver , cementing her legacy as a GOAT etc.....
 
I think Clark is gone after four years. She wants to be the best of the best, and play the best of the best. Staying in college isn't her MO.

Why limit herself to NCAA records? Soon she will be targeting WNBA records, and beyond.
I think it will depend on whether she thinks there's a realistic chance at a national championship or not. I could see her staying if there as a solid chance to play for the title.

If they have no chance, I could see her going pro.
 
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I think it will depend on whether she thinks there's a realistic chance at a national championship or not. I could see her staying if there as a solid chance to play for the title.

If they have no chance, I could see her going pro.

I think she'll look at the 2024-2025 roster, determine how good it looks, and then weigh the pros and cons of coming back one more year vs going pro. And if she has already broken the all time D1 scoring record, who knows, she might be ready for some new challenges like transforming the WNBA.

And I think she probably already knows whether Nike, Hy-Vee, H&R Block, Buick & Topps (trading cards) will want to continue their endorsement deals once she heads to the WNBA.
 
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