Show me one post on here that says the Hawks deserve to even sniff the playoffs. Cause they don’t….just like the Clowns with their weak-a$$ Lil12 schedule.
You want facts? If MooU makes the playoffs….they will get beat like a drum!
Congrats to Iowa State
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You want facts? If MooU makes the playoffs….they will get beat like a drum!
No one says you can't become an ISU fan and leave. You need help packing?
Massive difference is the schools you mention have largely been in a power conference unlike most of the G5 additions of the leftover league.
Also curious as to what isu’s record is against the schools you mention?
I know we must ignore anything that shows how pathetic the pitiful Big 12 err. the leftover league is because clown fans insist on it.
If you could get my donations to the athletic department back for the Brian Ferentz era, or heck even the last three years of his tenure, I’d be gone so fast. Otherwise you are stuck with me!
This ^^^ totally sums up the current college football FBS CFP landscape. It is a swamp as they say and I hope it settles down with some transparency on all the money.
I think in order to play college fb these players have to have their NIL contracts and payments out in the light of day just like the coaches contracts. Otherwise we are just letting a lot of big time cheating take place.
Iowa State had an overall losing record (18-20) during Brian's final three seasons - whereas Iowa was 28-13. Iowa's worst season (8-5) was better than ISU's best (7-6). They sold out less than half of their home games this season - the best one in school history. But hey, they're awesome. You should jump on board with that powerhouse.
Yes, at another school. He's gone as soon as a better offer comes along.
Who cares?!? Iowa should have been playing for big ten titles. And with Brian we had no shot. Hell, Harbaugh knew the game was over last year when the score was 10 to zero in Indy because it would have taken a miracle for two defensive/special team touchdowns. You guys think I’d stick it out with tickets throughout the Brian Ferentz fiasco and just give up now. I’ll sure raise hell about how bad he was though!
Agreed......he's smart enough to see that the "leftover leagues" don't have a future in college football.
In other words. ISU helped UI SOS and UI is a slight drag on the ISU SOS.
Iowa did play for a Big Ten title - two times in the three year period you are complaining about.
I'm curious - what schools do you feel Iowa has a competitive advantage over in the BIG? Or, if it's easier, who has a competitive advantage over Iowa?
It's hard to believe, but Campbell is about the same age now as Kirk was when he came to Iowa. Clearly Campbell has plenty of time to establish his legacy at a power school.
The question is if he's content to be a secondary player at a regional school - or does he want to achieve greater things that are just not possible at a school like Iowa State. Sure, he's got much better job security if he stays in Ames. But most coaches aren't in it for job security - most want to win at the highest level possible. It's why people like Kirk are so rare these days. Heck, Campbell has already stayed longer than most successful coaches do.
Golly gee really?!? Winning the big ten west and “playing” for a title is not competing for a big ten title. Getting boatraced by Michigan twice is not competing for a big ten title. We had zero chance of winning those games.
Exactly.
He may already have enough money and not care about making a lot more and if so, he'll stay because in a few years, ISU will be paying at the equivalent of an MWC school as it relates to all of college football. If he wants to win a national title ever, he'll have one of two options and his current school are in neither of those two available options.
Depends on what he wants to do but he has about five years to make choice before it all comes crashing down. I personally think he leaves this time and doesn't make the same mistake twice.
The schools that have an advantage over Iowa are Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. With NIL, maybe throw Nebraska in there. That’s it.
I knew this was coming. It's the same tired argument. You can whine about how we weren't competitive, but we were in the game and Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, and Illinois were not.
And are you really going to whine about not being competive with the national champ last year? A team that beat OSU and Alabama and then smoked Washngton in the national championship game? Really?
Anyway, you didn't answer my question. What schools do we have a competitive advantage over in the BIG? Why are you so arrogant to believe our program should be at the OSU level? From a resource standpoint, we are a lot closer to Purdue than OSU, Michigan, and PSU. And yet, when we do have more success than most of our peers all you can do is whine and minimize it? That's a sad way to be as a fan.
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Wisconsin has a huge advantage over us - from size of school to being the lone power school in a state that's almost twice the size of Iowa. You could argue the same of Minnesota, but their fan base isn't as strong. Illinois is the premier state school in a state of 12.5 million people. None of those schools have an another power 4 state school in the state to compete with for resources and recruits.
MSU is a larger school than us in a state of 10.4 million people - and they are situation closer to the population bases of Ohio, Pennsylvania and the east coast. And going forward, obviously USC, UCLA, Washington, and Oregon can all be argued to have competitive advantages over us as well.
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He has to be smart enough to know this is his last sure chance to better his position. I'm sure he learned his lesson after struggling from 2021-2023 - it's not easy to win in Ames and he better leverage this season's success while he can.
If the right job comes calling, he's gone. But of course it has to be the right job. I'm not sure North Carolina is that job given the uncertain future of the ACC. I'm not sure anything else worth taking to upgrade his position is available at this point.
Hell might as well throw in Rutgers and Maryland because they have huge populations near them. And Northwestern because of their academics. Purdue because they have a beautiful campus. Indiana because they have more letters in their name than Iowa. Am I missing anyone?!?
Absolutely refuse to say anyone but the three blue bloods and maybe Nebraska have a competitive advantage over Iowa. West coast schools are different, but in the last ten years, it’s been PSU, Ohio State, Michigan and maybe Nebraska.
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It is clear to me many on this board are becoming sour that Iowa State is in a better spot to play in the playoffs over the next 5 years than Iowa. They have a better coach, better QB, and have started getting top 10 recruits in our state that they never used to get.
Yep, very true regarding the bolded. After that though... wouldn't want to be in their position at all. Nobody would. In fact, everybody will be trying to get out of their position. Short sightedness at it's finest.
Wisconsin and Iowa are the exact same program. They’ve just won more in the last decade until recently. There is no competitive advantage on either side in my opinion.
So you would rather finish 5th in the Big 10 and have our best players opt out for meaningless bowl games opposed to playing in a lesser conference with the potential to join the blue bloods in the CFB playoff? Not sure about that one. I'll take a meaningful post-season every time.
How much $$ you willing to pony up? The Swarm is waiting. Talent costs $$…and no one can escape this any more.
No one is suggesting otherwise. But when your coach is more about contracts and stubbornness than innovation and scoring ... welp.
If we're talking about this year, Iowa didn't belong anywhere near the CFP given the state of the passing game. We've already seen what happens when they go up against a capable defense and it starts to look a whole lot like last year. Iowa can't compete against a very good team until that gets rectified.
About the 50000th time that’s mentioned on here. Other offers have come along and he’s still there.
This is my whole point, Iowa isn't on the same level as 4-5 other teams in the Big 10 and never will be. How would we ever consistently be in the top 4 in the new Big 10 to play in the post-season? Just look at the schedule next year, Vegas will likely have our win total around 6. That is the new reality - but hey, at least we're getting more TV money.
He appears to want to build something and is in the process of doing so. Curious that fans of KF find that an odd concept.
Yeah, that...and we'll still have a team to root for at the end of the decade. We won't win a title most likely but at least we'll have a team on TV to watch and will still be in the playoffs format.
You Cyclone fans seem perpetually short-sighted. Have you already forgotten the desperation you felt the last two go arounds? Nothing has changed except the inevitable inching closer. The next realignment is likely the final nail. No more playoffs for you. No more viewers. No more TV. Sucks but it is what it is.
Not bragging either. I don't like where it's all gone. Just saying what is on the way. So yeah, celebrate and be jovial about the conference championship. You're still on the brink. Be merry for there is no tomorrow...
This exact prediction was touted on this board in all of the last 3 conference alignments since 2012, and have been incorrect all 3 times.
Are you deliberately obtuse or just a troll? I can't tell. I know you're an ISU fan but I feel like I'm lecturing a child here. I probably am.
I've been on this board since 2007 - nice try. Show me proof of why you think the Big 12 is the worst conference, all I'm asking for. I'll wait.
I'm giving all the credit to Captain Kirk. Boy Wonder is simply an idiot and didn't know any better. Captain Kirk let that ship sail and continue to sail.
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