Please provide some examples. Honestly anything that he brings to the offensive end. I’ll let the other stuff slide. Even though he’s too slow to matchup with guards and not big enough to bang down low with B1G posts
Connor. What did you do???
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I've already given those examples. Page 3, I believe
If Iowa’s offense and defense were better when he was on the court like you said, it would be reflected in his +/-. His win share per 40 minutes is last on the team as well. It seems all of the things you are mentioning can only be seen through your eyes and nobody else who watches the games would be able to understand them
Ding ding we have a winner. The amount of meaningful game time when one of them is not in the game is not high.
He really is a detriment to the offense. His presence allows other teams to collapse down into the lane and/or double team as he is zero threat to shoot the ball.
In order for Connor to get playing time, he would need to play elite defense and rebound at a high level. That simply hasn't happened this year. I suspect a lot of it is the injuries/surgeries that have slowed him down.
I think Connor is a tough player, gritty, and a leader. He just is so limited at this point, he's hurting the team by getting extended minutes. Kris Murray, Perkins, or Ulis should be getting the bulk of his minutes. Not to say the three of them have been exceptional either but they all three have the upside to be much better and they need the experience.
Previously, I've kind of shrugged at the nepotism screams on here because I thought both PMac and CMac should have gotten the minutes they were getting. That isn't the case this season and it becomes less and less the case for CMac the worse he plays and the further we get into a season that appears to be a rebuilding/experience building year. Play the younger guys with higher upside to try to turn this season around and/or to get them the experience they need for the future.
Exactly the way I feel. I used to be able to justify Connors minutes with the “intangibles” a few years ago. I can’t anymore
So you’re saying that they are going to change the way they call they game now because of what he said? Ok, good, we agree that the refs let biases interfere in calling the game.
Manipulation/adjustments always take place. Haven't you ever noticed coaches working the refs for calls? Conner has worked the refs too. His won't end up so positive. They won't cheat on the calls; but, people influence their calls all the time. Often it is called "home field advantage". Glad you wanted this little lesson.
When you publicly call out the refs, it is "something crazy like that."
+/- is incredibly problematic as a measurement tool. Particularly when his 16 mins are typically with younger players.. Neither of those stats get at what I'm talking about.
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The funny thing with this suggestion is that on EvanMiya.com Garza had the worst chemistry rating with Connor last year by far than any other player on the team a whopping -45,3 rating. You know why? Because Connor's guy was allowed to double down on Garza at free will as players loved to leave CMAC open top of the key to throw up another shot/turnover. When you shoot that low of percentage it's a turnover.
The post feed blah blah, was such a media mouthpiece myth. Connor had 5/8 of the lowest two man chemistry combos on of the entire team including the last 2 (Keegan and Garza). He actually drug pro prospects down...
I have yet to see any true evidence outside of feels that Connor does anything of considerable value to deserver playing time. Connor logged 2x the minutes Keegan did last year... 2X!!!
There is hardcore evidence over the entirery of last year where Iowa had 3 NBA Prospects. You fail to address the hardcore metrics staring you in the face.
I will say that he has to be careful. Davison got the reputation for flopping on charges and it lead to a ton of blocking calls (some of which were legitimate charges). Obviously refs can be influenced. I’ll never forget how Coach K dogged the refs bad at half time of the national title game against the UW and then how differently they called the game in the second half. It happens. It sucks but it is part of the equation when you have the human element of reffing. Calling the refs out nationally on Twitter will not help his case.
Wisconsin gets its defensive imagination from watching Missouri Valley games. Flop & flail like a little bitch on D, then hope the refs bail them out.
The ball was already out of his hand being dribbled. The guard just grabbed his hand/arm, which is a foul. No two ways about it. Two officials standing 10-15 feet away from them, one of them should catch this happening. Not a hard call to make. I saw it in real time and then confirmed in replay. It's not that hard. Murray's whole body moved away from the defender but his whole arm stood still. It's not rocket science, he was being held.
You can't grab the ball handlers arm or hand in basketball. That is a foul.
You haven't seen many games/seasons that have different rules in each half, game or week?
If you think foul count is how you judge refs, then you're a moron. Pure stupidity lmfao
Never said it was the only way to judge. But that game was not called bad either way. Might have been a few bad calls but that happens in almost every game. Even if we say they were bad, they didn’t change the outcome by over 10+ points. And Iowa lost by about 15 (if you don’t count garbage time). Either way, you just come off as a whiner when you dwell on the reffing when you get beat like that. I do think the number of fouls for each team can tell part of the story and no objective observer would say that UW was playing more dirty on defense. Yes they were more physical on the glass and played with more intensity but that doesn’t automatically lead to more fouls.
Yes. The Big 10 award, not the Iowa award. My lord, please go back to clownfanatic
You can complain about even if it doesn't change the outcome. Not sure why that's hard to comprehend
SIAP but Bohannon got roasted by Badgers. KF is still a genius for keeping kids off social media while he could.
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JBo chimed in? Shocker of the century! Talk about horrible senior leadership. Stupid!
JFC social media is trash, but they don’t need to be told by their “sports daddy” not to be total f***** tools on Twitter or other platforms. It’s a lesson in being the bigger person. Not a Petras fan, but he’s a prime example of what you should be on social media. He’s mature and has more ppl in his inbox than JBo probably does. I vaguely remember SP being on JBo’s
Podcast and Jordan telling him not to listen to the haters or the noise on social media and to just do him. Good advice lol.
JBo is constantly firing back in his mentions, tries to play it off in the public eye like everything is all friendly rivalry crap. Also heard him say “Brad and I our actually friends off the court” on his podcast, but he’s basically just thrown him under the bus in front of everyone. It’s about time for him to grow up, he’s like 47
Totally agree they shouldn't have to be told but you see all the guys on the hoops team not handling it well. I really can't believe Bohannon actually banters with these other fans.
I don't want to hear about about another player or family member complain about how Iowa fans are tough on them on social media, when they (players and family) go down that rabbit hole and stoke the flames. It is pretty simple to stay off that stuff. Why complain when you engage it.
BS. Are you telling me you haven't seen Ferentz go ape shit on the refs? I've seen it more times than I can count. The difference being that Kirk is in a stadium and Fran is in an arena, so it seems more personal. Oh, and Fran makes funny faces and gets red.
It just doesn't matter to a faction of the board. No matter how much data is shared, they will say that what he brings can't be measured. That is just not true in today's basketball. There is the ability to measure it, and the smart coaches and teams use it. Iowa has played 15 games and he has played 40% of the minutes. And has 4 field goals. 4. I don't even know what to say beyond that.
That is bad. Really bad. There is zero reason for Connor to be getting that much playing time. Anyplace else, he would be riding the bench and only playing spot minutes or mop up time.
I’m 63, 5’9 and slow as molasses, but I could put up more than 4 FG’s playing 40% of the minutes over 15 games just out of sheer dumb luck.
I'm not going there as these types of comparisons just don't help the point being made. I'm also old, and no, neither one of us could make 4 FG's playing 15 college games.
If you watch games from his first year, he is not remotely the same player anymore. It's too bad as the injuries have taken their toll.
Do guys on really good teams behave this way on Twitter? Our team leader is too emotional and unfocused and now that attitude is rubbing off on the other players on the team. The last thing we should want now are more distractions.
I'm sure JBo would tell me I am just saying he should shut up and dribble and that he knows what's best. But jeez they need to tune out social media and get focused, not just because it might help them win but also because this kind of crap ticks off the fans.
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