Crazy QB Competion Coming!

[hawk_it]

Iowa looks to be in really good shape in the QB department! Seems like each of these QB's has a lot of talent to offer. Competition is going to be at a high level.

Nate Stanley 6'4" JR
Ryan Schmidt 6'5" JR
Peyton Mansell 6'2" R-FR
Spencer Petras 6'5" FR

Alex Padilla 6'2" 19 commit
Deuce Hogan 6'4" 20 commit

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

I agree. The competition for the back up role will be intense.

 

[kceasthawk]

Iowa looks to be in really good shape in the QB department! Seems like each of these QB's has a lot of talent to offer. Competition is going to be at a high level.

Nate Stanley 6'4" JR
Ryan Schmidt 6'5" JR
Peyton Mansell 6'2" R-FR
Spencer Petras 6'5" FR

Alex Padilla 6'2" 19 commit
Deuce Hogan 6'4" 20 commit

Well the one thing that is a near certainty, is that by this time next year at least one of these guys won't be on the roster. Stanley could move on if he has a great year this season. If he doesn't its quite likely either Mansell or Petras move on. The walk on Schmidt will never play a down at Iowa barring a catastrophe of numerous QB injuries.

 

[Roy-munson]

My biggest question?? Is Stanley got one year or two years left, his sophomore year was impressive but a lot of growth was needed.. but he has the size, and arm strength the nfl looks for.. if his deep ball accuracy hits this fall.. he could be a potential first round pick..

 

[Hawktimism]

I think Stanley returns no matter what... maybe if he wins the Heisman but otherwise he returns for his senior year. Just my opinion though

 

[kceasthawk]

My biggest question?? Is Stanley got one year or two years left, his sophomore year was impressive but a lot of growth was needed.. but he has the size, and arm strength the nfl looks for.. if his deep ball accuracy hits this fall.. he could be a potential first round pick..

Stanley played in mop up duty as a true frosh under the old rules. That would make this season his third, so he would have the option of leaving after this year or staying for one more season in 2019-20.

 

[mpfeiler]

That is a problem all teams want to have every year. QBs stacked up!

 

[Johnsoda123]

I'm going to enjoy Stanley, A. Nelson and Hooker this year and not worry about the NFL.

 

[chiphawk59]

It's like a roster full Tom Bradys' with a couple of Drew Brees for good measure

 

[mazda1]

Pump the breaks a bit.

I really like Stanley, but he's got things to develop. He's not an NFL lock to be drafted. Until the others take at least 1 college snap I'm going to hold off on the Brady and Brees comparisons. If the back ups function enough to get the job done when/if their number is called we are in good shape.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Pump the breaks a bit.

I really like Stanley, but he's got things to develop. He's not an NFL lock to be drafted. Until the others take at least 1 college snap I'm going to hold off on the Brady and Brees comparisons. If the back ups function enough to get the job done when/if their number is called we are in good shape.

IMO Stanley could have gone at the end of last year and gotten drafted somewhere on measurables alone.

 

[scotthawk1964]

I'm going to enjoy Stanley, A. Nelson and Hooker this year and not worry about the NFL.

NFL, what's that? I quit watching two years ago when Colin took his knee and haven't missed it. My Filipina wife is happy that I have all day Sunday's open now to drag me around Des Moines to the Asian food stores. Hmm, maybe I should consider watching this year.......

 

[txhawk I]

NFL, what's that? I quit watching two years ago when Colin took his knee and haven't missed it. My Filipina wife is happy that I have all day Sunday's open now to drag me around Des Moines to the Asian food stores. Hmm, maybe I should consider watching this year.......

We have rules here.

Pic of Filipina wife.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

The only one of the backups that COULD or WOULD transfer is Mansell, especially if Petras passes him up for #2. Petra’s won’t transfer as he will likely redshirt barring QB catastrophe.

 

[clayborn_94]

Well the one thing that is a near certainty, is that by this time next year at least one of these guys won't be on the roster. Stanley could move on if he has a great year this season. If he doesn't its quite likely either Mansell or Petras move on. The walk on Schmidt will never play a down at Iowa barring a catastrophe of numerous QB injuries.

Mansell would be the only one that might leave after this year and that’s if Petras is a clear number two. If Mansell battles for number 2 gives him reason to say and Petras will NOT transfer after a redshirt season.

 

[kceasthawk]

Mansell would be the only one that might leave after this year and that’s if Petras is a clear number two. If Mansell battles for number 2 gives him reason to say and Petras will NOT transfer after a redshirt season.

I would agree thats the most likely scenario.

 

[staygoldponyboy]

LOL
Same folks hoping for transfers will be decrying lack of depth to explain their take on why Iowa shouldn't have Wisconsin-like expectations.

 

[thecarls]

I’m probably a rare one on this. I hope Mansell is the guy post Stanley

 

[LUC8]

Peyton Mansell 6'2" R-FR
Spencer Petras 6'5" FR
Alex Padilla 6'2" 19 commit
Deuce Hogan 6'4" 20 commit


Competition should be intense for sure. 2 potential transfers out of this group wouldn't be unexpected.

 

[nu2u]

I’m probably a rare one on this. I hope Mansell is the guy post Stanley

I get the impression that many have crowned Petras as the successor but I wouldn't sell Mansell short. Peyton Mansell would certainly bring a dimension that no other QB on the roster can match - he can make plays with his feet and is a legitimate threat to scramble for a big gain when under pressure. Opposing DCs would have to account for that,

 

[thecarls]

If Petras wins than good on him. Either way it’s gonna be a fight. I love the more mobile guys. Banks, Tate, and pre bum leg Beathard. Just bring another demension. That being said guys like Stanzi and Rudock were very effective.

 

[JupiterHawk]

Pump the breaks a bit.

I really like Stanley, but he's got things to develop. He's not an NFL lock to be drafted. Until the others take at least 1 college snap I'm going to hold off on the Brady and Brees comparisons. If the back ups function enough to get the job done when/if their number is called we are in good shape.

Not a lot of QB's can make this play. That's a 3rd round NFL draft pick hanging on to him.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

Pump the breaks a bit.

I really like Stanley, but he's got things to develop. He's not an NFL lock to be drafted. Until the others take at least 1 college snap I'm going to hold off on the Brady and Brees comparisons. If the back ups function enough to get the job done when/if their number is called we are in good shape.

No kidding.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

It's like a roster full Tom Bradys' with a couple of Drew Brees for good measure

Nah. These guys each have a couple inches on Brees.

 

[citizenHawk]

Far more interested in a QB winning college football games than I am about their supposed NFL potential. That's great if Stanley is the guy, but he better earn it, and he better move aside if someone else proves to be better for this team. Stanley still has a long ways to go, and a lot more on his shoulders without Wadley on the field.

 

[HawkeyeMcNutt]

I think Stanley returns no matter what... maybe if he wins the Heisman but otherwise he returns for his senior year. Just my opinion though

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, speaking with someone very close to Nate, their opinion was they’d be shocked if Nate left early for the NFL, even with a monster season. Nate and his family want him to finish school, and he’s the quiet, loyal kid who wants to finish what he started. (FWIW)

IMO, if he has a huge year, and the opportunity is there to be drafted round 1 or 2, he should go, get paid, and school will always be here for him.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, speaking with someone very close to Nate, their opinion was they’d be shocked if Nate left early for the NFL, even with a monster season. Nate and his family want him to finish school, and he’s the quiet, loyal kid who wants to finish what he started. (FWIW)

IMO, if he has a huge year, and the opportunity is there to be drafted round 1 or 2, he should go, get paid, and school will always be here for him.

Furthermore, I'd point to how the team seems to be building up to the 2019 season. The D should be cresting to a high point ... and our skill players on O will finally be more experienced too.

I would surmise that love and excitement for the program will lure many guys to stick around for the 2019 season ... because odds are that it could really end up being a special one.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Mansell would be the only one that might leave after this year and that’s if Petras is a clear number two. If Mansell battles for number 2 gives him reason to say and Petras will NOT transfer after a redshirt season.

Petras likely learns more from Nate Stanley's tape ... but O'Keefe has had success developing guys with mobility. Mansell's mobility is an x-factor that could be a serious advantage ... just as long as he still develops favorably as a passer too.

Anyhow, I doubt that there is any clear leader between Mansell and Petras up until the summer/fall camp of 2020. I don't think that either of those guys transfers out until after that competition has been played out to its "natural" conclusion. Who wins? I have no idea ... and I have no preference either ... because both guys are Hawkeyes ... and I'll pull for each until one is a clear leader.

 

[HawkeyeMcNutt]

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, speaking with someone very close to Nate, their opinion was they’d be shocked if Nate left early for the NFL, even with a monster season. Nate and his family want him to finish school, and he’s the quiet, loyal kid who wants to finish what he started. (FWIW)

IMO, if he has a huge year, and the opportunity is there to be drafted round 1 or 2, he should go, get paid, and school will always be here for him.

Furthermore, I'd point to how the team seems to be building up to the 2019 season. The D should be cresting to a high point ... and our skill players on O will finally be more experienced too.

I would surmise that love and excitement for the program will lure many guys to stick around for the 2019 season ... because odds are that it could really end up being a special one.

A lot of that may depend on how this season goes as well, though. If Iowa beats Wisconsin and goes 10-2 and wins the West, or by some chance in hell wins the B1G, it may give guys a little more thought that they should go get paid.

I would love to have that problem.

Regardless of how this season goes in the W/L column, I’d be HIGHLY surprised if Noah Fant wears the black and gold next season. (unless it is in Pittsburgh with the Steelers)

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

A lot of that may depend on how this season goes as well, though. If Iowa beats Wisconsin and goes 10-2 and wins the West, or by some chance in hell wins the B1G, it may give guys a little more thought that they should go get paid.

I would love to have that problem.

Regardless of how this season goes in the W/L column, I’d be HIGHLY surprised if Noah Fant wears the black and gold next season. (unless it is in Pittsburgh with the Steelers)

Yeah, Fant is the only guy who I think is likely gone (assuming that he has a great '18 season).

 

[anon_gjzkhykcp9iuj]

Far more interested in a QB winning college football games than I am about their supposed NFL potential. That's great if Stanley is the guy, but he better earn it, and he better move aside if someone else proves to be better for this team. Stanley still has a long ways to go, and a lot more on his shoulders without Wadley on the field.

Dammit, he better!

 

[dawgs_04]

Furthermore, I'd point to how the team seems to be building up to the 2019 season. The D should be cresting to a high point ... and our skill players on O will finally be more experienced too.

I would surmise that love and excitement for the program will lure many guys to stick around for the 2019 season ... because odds are that it could really end up being a special one.

Agree 2019 might be the better team. Unfortunately the schedule sets up really poorly in odd years. @ISU/WI/NW/NEB. Having all four of those games home or away each season really sucks. Crossover games include @MI and vs PSU. Not a great schedule on paper.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I think Stanley returns no matter what... maybe if he wins the Heisman but otherwise he returns for his senior year. Just my opinion though

Yeah, I'd say you can go ahead and push that scenario with confidence.

Stanley is a 4 yr guy (barring injury), unless he somehow overcomes the Alabama/ESPN hype train and puts up enough numbers, coupled with a stellar Iowa record and wins the Heisman............More than likely that won't happen, as unfortunate as that would be, because nobody wants to see Alabama and its players and Dictator Saban ruling college football anymore.

 

[deanhawk88]

I'd love to jump on board thinking Stanley stays but then I think this... Nate Stanley > Tanner Lee (6th rd). Tell me this Interception throwing machine is better than Nate!? How many thought Daniels/Jackson had a chance even 6 games in? Hopefully he stays but success has a down side, but also a bright silver lining. No disrespect to Mansell and Padilla, but Petras and Hogan are the higher rated, have the more typical pro style measurables and are fan favorites. Kurt Warner says anything can happen though so we'll see. I'll also add that Athan Kaliakmanis in the 2021 class is an Iowa fan with an offer after his freshman year at 6-4 190. Virginia Tech, ISU and Syracuse have also offered with many more to come. He'll be really good with 3 yrs yet to develop! Early exoduses can make great recruiting tools, hopefully this keeps paying dividends because it most certainly has in the last couple classes already.

 

[the24fan]

A lot of that may depend on how this season goes as well, though. If Iowa beats Wisconsin and goes 10-2 and wins the West, or by some chance in hell wins the B1G, it may give guys a little more thought that they should go get paid.

I would love to have that problem.

Regardless of how this season goes in the W/L column, I’d be HIGHLY surprised if Noah Fant wears the black and gold next season. (unless it is in Pittsburgh with the Steelers)

That is a real possibility. Pittsburgh will most likely be in the TE market and Fant would be an awesome addition to my Steelers....

 

[TheHawkeyeDudeAbides]

Right now, let's be thankful for the young men here at Iowa who are trying to become a starting QB and wins games for the program. I'll follow the general rule set by Bill Parcells that you want see a QB who has been a starter in college for at least two years. Experience has value, especially how well one performs in big games against top caliber teams. I believe Stanley stays another year, simply because playing another college season beats holding a clip board in the NFL , although the money is better.

The thing I take away for the stock of better QBs in the Hawkeye program is the more quality reps that WRs and TEs receive. A better selling point to those skill position stars Iowa wants to attract to become a better program. If Iowa could land a couple of 4 star WRs to go along with its QB corps, Iowa would be a productive offense. I foresee the braintrust of BF, Polasek, Copeland, and Foster making headway and challenging the old status quo.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Agree 2019 might be the better team. Unfortunately the schedule sets up really poorly in odd years. @ISU/WI/NW/NEB. Having all four of those games home or away each season really sucks. Crossover games include @MI and vs PSU. Not a great schedule on paper.

If a team is playing well and executing together well ... then where the game is played often doesn't matter as much. I've seen seasons where teams seemed to play better on the road ... because they were more focussed with their preparation. For home games, you're often getting patted on the back so much by fans ... that you get distracted a little by all the adulation. However, in contrast, for away games - you know that you'll be in a hostile environment ... and consequently, if momentum swings away from you, then that could be the nails in your coffin.

Traditionally, Ryan Field has been a poor home-field advantage for the Wildcats. They typically play the Hawks just as well at Kinnick as they do at home. It will still be early in the Scott Frost era ... so I don't know what to make of their home-field advantage in that game. However, I'll wholly agree with you that the game at Jack Trice and Camp Randall will be extremely tough ... very hostile environments.

However, to reconnect to my prior point, in 2009 the Hawks had a very tough schedule too ... essentially ALL of our toughest games were away games too ... and we kept on winning! That season we were @ISU, @PSU, @Wisconsin, @MSU, and @OSU. The first game we lost was a home game against Northwestern! Losing Stanzi was HUGE in that game. Furthermore, with Vandenberg as a RS FR starting QB, we went into the SHOE and almost won!

Thus, to me, the schedule will be secondary to the leadership, toughness, preparation, and attention to detail that the '19 squad demonstrates.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

It's fascinating. I recently rewatched the Iowa game against Wyoming ... and then contrasted it with the performance we saw from Stanley in the Nebraska game. It was pretty remarkable all the improvements that Stanley made. He was still throwing touchdowns to Fant ... but that is where the similarities ended.

By the end of the season, he was taking much better care of the football. He was making decisions more quickly. Against Wyoming ... most of his incompletions were attributable to timing issues ... with him often being late making the throw. Later in the season, timing was much better .... and more of the incompletions were either due to him throwing the ball away OR from drops (or passes defended).

Between the end of last season and the start of the next - Stanley will have experienced 2 more camps ... times that are crucial in the development of players. I'm really excited to see what sort of improvements Stanley will be continuing to make. As a first year starter, I'm sure that Brian and Ken were trying to measure how much they were putting on Stanley's plate ... that way he would be less apt to be overwhelmed. As a 2nd year starter, I'd imagine that the new challenge for Stanley will be handling having increasing autonomy ... he'll be having more options at his disposal when making checks and audibles. Given the greater number of options ... he'll have more recognitions to make relating to the opposing D. Now that he'll have more on his plate ... how will he respond?

In principle, the Hawkeye O will likely be more "adaptable" to adversity in '18 with Stanley being even more of a field general. Furthermore, as his pre-snap reads will be coming faster to him .... I predict that he'll be more likely to tuck the ball and run if there's nothing open. Even though Stanley isn't a "mobile" QB ... nor was Nathan Chandler ... and Nathan did a great job of helping to move the O with his feet.

 

[td77]

Furthermore, I'd point to how the team seems to be building up to the 2019 season. The D should be cresting to a high point ... and our skill players on O will finally be more experienced too.

I would surmise that love and excitement for the program will lure many guys to stick around for the 2019 season ... because odds are that it could really end up being a special one.

All good comments, but the schedule is as important as the guys returning. PSU at home, away to Michigan, Wisconsin, NW and Nebraska. That’ll be quite the challenge.

 

[cocoem]

Iowa looks to be in really good shape in the QB department! Seems like each of these QB's has a lot of talent to offer. Competition is going to be at a high level.

Nate Stanley 6'4" JR
Ryan Schmidt 6'5" JR
Peyton Mansell 6'2" R-FR
Spencer Petras 6'5" FR

Alex Padilla 6'2" 19 commit
Deuce Hogan 6'4" 20 commit

Whoever the coaches decided on it will be the wrong guy because the other guy is obviously better