Anyone else looking forward to the last few weeks of the season IF Iowa St. is close to 5 wins and watching their fanbase squirm trying to come up with how to make up the SDSU game?
Cy-ing over spilt milk... CF boards are filled with blubbering masses
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If they have a good season it will help us so I hope they upset some teams.
He might just be. I don't see them with another 8 win season this year and his window for a better gig will be closing quickly as the stench of crap football in Ames permeates him. He seems like a decent enough guy, I hope he can break free and move up in the world before he tarnishes in Ames and is fired McCarney-esque in 3 years.
Their problem will be the Oline and qb. Injuries would be decimating if the starters are as bad as I think. The schedule is front loaded... so starting 1-4/1-5 will have a mental effect. Make no mistake... that's a very average team.
If he gets 6/7 wins... no good program will notice. Rather... last year will be viewed as an anomaly.
Chizek got the Auburn job after winning a total of 5 games in 2 years. 6-7 wins again gets him the Patriots job.
And to think ISU fans were afraid that tOSU was going to come calling if UM got canned.
Campbell just hoodwinked Pollard and the fans with the two upsets last year. What we saw last weekend is likely the REAL Matt Campbell.
It is also entertaining to see some of their fans have already turned on their savior Kempt. Even before the injury he looked worse than Stanley has, and that's saying something.
And half of these boards are still melting down after a win....nonsense.
Yeah, that’s the kind of stuff that angers me about fans. Kempt played a huge part in two of their best ever wins. And one of their best ever seasons. Now they want Zeb. It reminds me of when Tate was struggling somewhat and there was a vocal call for Christensen. Careful what you wish for!
ISU has a really good defense and their offense will be good enough in the Big 12 against some of those defenses to win games. I think OU beats them and WVU but I could see ISU winning any of the other games on their schedule.
Honest question - what did Iowa State gain from this game? Lost the QB, and has almost no tape or success to build on.
The defense was good. But they can’t play the way they did in this game. LB’s can’t crash down into a zone scheme because they aren’t going to play one again. No success at all on offense and defensive performance that can’t be replicated. To me it’s just frustrating because we had no game week 1, a game as throughly unenjoyable to watch as any I’ve seen in a while in week 2, we’ll have a pissed off OU team coming in week 3, etc. Quite frankly there hasn’t been anything fun about this season as an Iowa State fan, and it could be a while before there is. Just my opinion.
The defense was good. But they can’t play the way they did in this game. LB’s can’t crash down into a zone scheme because they aren’t going to play one again. No success at all on offense and defensive performance that can’t be replicated. To me it’s just frustrating because we had no game week 1, a game as throughly unenjoyable to watch as any I’ve seen in a while in week 2, we’ll have a pissed off OU team coming in week 3, etc. Quite frankly there hasn’t been anything fun about this season as an Iowa State fan, and it could be a while before there is. Just my opinion.
Bottom half of the Big 12 is pretty pathetic.
Melting down or just concerned about the offense? I think most intelligent fans are concerned and should be. It's concerning to me that our oline got man-handled by their dl. They moved the line of scrimmage. Rewatched it on DVR and they were very disappointing. I hope like hell they along with Stanley get better.
Reasonable observations but still a lot of very winnable games in the b12 coming up for ISU.
Yep, that’s insane. Noland plays the whole game, ISU throws about 4 interceptions.
Without a functioning Oline... ISU is a team destined for the bottom half of that conference. Montgomery and Butler will not be factors with a line that can't block or give a qb time to throw.
That's, at best, a 5 win team.
History has told us that the oline usually takes some time to ‘gel’ so I’m not overly concerned....IKM being out hurts I think and changes the playbook a lot...hopefully they figure it out in the next 10 days or so and he gets back on the field healthy....and I think the ISU defense is actually pretty good...they were very quick to the ball(maybe because of predictable play calling?) I don’t believe it was just us making them look good...we should k ow more on Saturday....time will tell I guess. But 2-0 looks good to me.
Also, I would consider posters on here wanting mansell to start right now would be slightly panicking or ‘melting down’....jmho
Maybe , but Kansas, K-state, Texas Tech.and Baylor are all games that ISU should win, and Texas, West Virginia. and Okie State are games that they will have a decent shot at winning.
Maybe , but Kansas, K-state, Texas Tech.and Baylor are all games that ISU should win, and Texas, West Virginia. and Okie State are games that they will have a decent shot at winning.
Maybe , but Kansas, K-state, Texas Tech.and Baylor are all games that ISU should win, and Texas, West Virginia. and Okie State are games that they will have a decent shot at winning.
There were more than a handful yesterday which I find to be hyperbole....but to each his own....there was actually a thread for it....i think it was titled ‘I’m ready for.....’ or something like that....too lazy to link.
I get the SOS thing, but I believe in the long run Iowa State having a good season does NOT help us. Need to be the biggest fish in a small pond. It is better for us if they are terrible.
I almost guarantee Iowa State loses one of KSU, BU, and TT. Will likely be underdogs in UT, WVU, and OSU games.
I've always thought a 5-7 win ISU team is good for Iowa. They aren't considered awful but aren't taking over the state either.
You don't "luck" yourself into 2 wins like they had against OU and TCU.
Also, if you're talking about the "real" Matt Campbell ... what we saw from the ISU D was the best defensive play that I've seen from them in something like 20 years. Also, they executed plenty of it with only 3 down linemen ... so it wasn't quite the huge stretch from their base D that they'll use against the rest of the Big 12.
For as much as Iowa fans will claim that ISU's OL isn't any good ... they still played 4 guys versus the Hawks who had prior starting experience. It's early in the season ... OLs tend to improve as they come together as a unit. Hawk fans should understand this ... our OLs sometimes seem to take a good third of a season to gel. Once that happens ... their O will be poised to demonstrate improved play. It sucks for them that it likely won't come early enough ... given the looming game against OU.
However, as others state ... there are A LOT of winnable games ahead for the Cyclones. I don't know if they'll win all the games they should ... but they'll be competitive. And, for the Cyclones, that is a significant change from past precedent.
Last season's two upset wins were the likely a case of those two teams "looking past" ISU. We'll see how they respond Saturday, but OU will be looking for revenge and I will be extremely surprised if the Sooners don't cover the spread.
Iowa fans know how conservative the play calling is, on offense, during the OOC. I think you're overestimating the ISU D.
What they gained was playing a game against a decent opponent and getting real experience for your new players. Just trying to give you some optimism
OU was going to be pissed off no matter whether ISU won or lost the game. If Cyclones can find a way to go 2-3 or better in the first 5 games the schedule lightens up. Much will depend on the health of the QB.
OU "looking past" ISU made sense ... and I even think that is probably what happened. However, for TCU to look past ISU too ... that makes much less sense.
If you watched ISU play in those game ... among others, they had a pretty decent squad. Oklahoma State and Memphis weren't bad squads last year either ... and ISU should have defeated the former AND did defeat the latter.
Of course, I agree with your premise that the ISU program might be somewhat limited. Just because a team does well one year does not guarantee a repeat performance. Now opposing teams have more film on what ISU's D is going to do ... so they can try to counter things accordingly. Furthermore, opposing teams will see ISU coming this year ... so there is much less opportunity for ISU to get "looked past" this year.
However, all the same, it will be interesting to see how competitive ISU can be ... even in defeat.
One of the reasons ISU might have a hard time duplicating last year is because they pulled off 4 upsets and rarely turned the ball over. They only had one lost fumble all year and that was a questionable one. TOs can be random and I don't see them having 4 upsets. But their defense is good and they have enough weapons on offense to beat a lot of other teams. KU, Baylor, Texas, KState, Tech are all wins they can get and I think it's possible to beat a WVU or OSU at home. I don't think the Big 12 is very good this year.
an ISU/Nebraska match up would be great. I actually don't see Nebraska agreeing to this. Getting beat by two former b12 schools in Frost's first year is probably not something Nebraska wants.
Amen. And although there's no rational reason for it, the cancellation feels like a loss.
