Denmark Responds

[goldmom]

Well you are somewhat historically challended as far as post war economics goes. The US and Australia were about the only two modern countries that had not been devastated by WW2. It took 20 to 30 years for Europe, Britain, Japan, and China to get their industries and populations back up and working. You cant understand that our so called US largesse wasnt also to help these countries re-build to make for better global markets for US goods? Our private enterprise system had no free handouts to these countries; our govt did but again it was to help boost us.

I say this and you dont hear it very much but the US was able to take advantage of this void to become the top industrial nation by far right after and for 30-40 years after WW2. We immensely gained dominance over the world in that time.

So dont go blabbing and slobbering around about how much we help those countries as we made out like bandits. The last 40 years our companies have sent their jobs overseas to maintain huge profits and they have sold out the US citizens in many ways by off-shoring their operations and monies and paying little in taxes.

If you and I were face to face we’d have a good conversation (without slobbering involved) and you’d find out that we’re in 99% agreement. We needed to have jobs for returning vets and we converted wartime plants back to manufacturing goods and products to sell to devastated countries. Since they had little money to buy those products we sent them foreign aid to help them buy our products and rebuild their infrastructure and businesses thus giving their people a job. It’s one of the reasons America was able to “gain and retain” world dominance in the 50’s, and the parents of Boomers like me decent financial security.
We kept our dominating presence in Germany and some other spots in Europe to keep the peace as a conquering nation and to limit Soviet expansion in the Cold War.
Is it time - it’s only been 80 years after all - to dust off that policy and consider a reset? I think it’s a very fair question.
My response is obviously just skimming the surface here - and it’s been over 20 years since I taught Economics and History but I think I’ve got my basic facts covered here.

 

[preshlock]

The larger picture here is that the status quo for the last 80 years in post war Europe has been one of nonstop US largesse providing a safety blanket for the continent that has allowed them to enjoy enormous growth and prosperity - and it’s almost a third rail issue when politicians even broach the subject.

I forget who said it but a noted observer recently said that it was wise to take Trump “seriously but not literally”. He was right.
Greenland isn’t for sale. I’m not worried.

UIHawk went over some of the economics.

As for the military. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union there really hasn't been a major threat to Europe. Obviously there were concerns about Russia. But the war in Ukraine has shown the Russian military to be a complete paper tiger.

Lend Lease & the Marshall Plan were two of the greatest moves we ever made. Lend Lease helped enable the decisive Soviet victory over the Germans while saving countless American & British lives. Marshall helped rebuild trading partners for us.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Of course he is. Unlike the maggots who refused to even claim biden, fairly elected in his Landslide 2020 win over Bonespurs, I'll admit Bonepurs won. He's going to be somewhat a president. Doing what Musk tells him to do. You see, real men admit when they got beat. They don't lie about things like stolen elections and stuffed ballot boxes and all the things Bonespurs made up in The Big Lie. Real men face the truth, which is why Bonespurs didn't do it. His ego just refused to admit the truth, it hurt him too badly. I'd love for Bonespurs to do well, I just don't think he has it in him, cuz he's too ignorant and too egotistical. And he's lied to everybody in the country so many times, nobody can even keep track of his lies anymore. And you dupes in the cult just keep on sucking it in and even being afraid to admit when you've been lied to and you know it. So I'll be here everyday, calling out those lies, the old ones and the new ones, lest anyone forgets them. And the legal system will do the same for all of his financial felony convictions and found sexual abuse judgments. It's called accountability. Bonespurs hates that concept.

Translation = He's still Butt Hurt over the fact Headboard Harris lost.

 

[sabula]

Translation = Bonespur's still Butt Hurt over the fact he lost.

FIFY. You're welcome!!

 

[uihawk82]

UIHawk went over some of the economics.

As for the military. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union there really hasn't been a major threat to Europe. Obviously there were concerns about Russia. But the war in Ukraine has shown the Russian military to be a complete paper tiger.

Lend Lease & the Marshall Plan were two of the greatest moves we ever made. Lend Lease helped enable the decisive Soviet victory over the Germans while saving countless American & British lives. Marshall helped rebuild trading partners for us.

Lend Lease was more a lifeline of goods for Britain as at that early time in the war the Nazis and Soviets had a non-aggression pact. We built a lot of military arms for britain and sent them food and fuel etc at a very high cost in merchant marine lives and sunk ships.

Once Hitler made the stupid decision to attack the Soviets we did give the soviets a lot of aid but they also had a lot of raw materials, ores, and fuel to make tanks and airplanes and munitions

 

[uihawk82]

If you and I were face to face we’d have a good conversation (without slobbering involved) and you’d find out that we’re in 99% agreement. We needed to have jobs for returning vets and we converted wartime plants back to manufacturing goods and products to sell to devastated countries. Since they had little money to buy those products we sent them foreign aid to help them buy our products and rebuild their infrastructure and businesses thus giving their people a job. It’s one of the reasons America was able to “gain and retain” world dominance in the 50’s, and the parents of Boomers like me decent financial security.
We kept our dominating presence in Germany and some other spots in Europe to keep the peace as a conquering nation and to limit Soviet expansion in the Cold War.
Is it time - it’s only been 80 years after all - to dust off that policy and consider a reset? I think it’s a very fair question.
My response is obviously just skimming the surface here - and it’s been over 20 years since I taught Economics and History but I think I’ve got my basic facts covered here.

You have it correct as far as I can read. Way too many Americans thought and think we just were better right after WW2 but the rest of the world was destroyed which left a huge vacuum for our economy and capitalism to grow. We still have the best system for economic growth being capitalism, low enough taxes to promote entreprenurial chance taking etc, a large populations and generally good educational systems. But our widening gap in wealth and people wanting to take us back 60 or more years as far as freedoms and liberty will probably lead to more unrest in the country.

At some point the US will run out of petro fuels and be lower on raw materials and ores and if we have not replaced them with newer, safer 4th and 5th generation nuclear energy, green energy, bio and synthetic renewal fuels especially for airplanes, better materials science and recycling, and a mostly electrically powered economy then our country will suffer and we will be like Japan in the 1930's without raw materials and oil/energy.

Unfortunately, our electorate and citizenry is is pretty lowly educated looking at stats showing about 50% of americans read at a 6th grade level or lower, they are very illiterate about science and technology, and low on logic skills which makes them unable to realize how they are getting ripped off by the healthcare and

 

[win1forthe]

He’s a joke and he has turned our country into a joke. He’s an idiot