This.
I'm also really hoping a satanic school opens up so we can see all the tiny Republican brains explode.
Dubuque private school raises tuition by 58% after voucher expansion
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I'm also really hoping a satanic school opens up so we can see all the tiny Republican brains explode.
How does the voucher program help the public schools that are required to educate these students that require additional staff, time and resources?
Why not provide resources to public schools that will improve public schools instead of just vilifying public schools and providing funds to private schools? Kim has done absolutely nothing to help the issues that you described. If anything, she has added more reporting requirements that public schools must now find time for.
It doesn't. This is a grift to fund religious schools and subsidize families who are already sending their kids to private schools. There are about 40,000 students in private school compared to 400,000 public school students in Iowa. The vast, vast majority of the $200M+ is going to the priviledged minority and the vast majority are made to do with even less than before.
And the church sponsored schools benefit the most - they can raise tuition dramatically and still keep the same families they have chosen to accept. They get to do this with no oversight of where the money goes or standards on the effectiveness of their education.
The people supporting this are those who are part of the minority that benefits from this and the rubes who can't bother to look beyond a misleading slogan like "school choice".
Well no shit. Or blacks and Mexicans. Unless they play football or soccer for said Catholic school.
What I find funny is when I was growing up Dowling was certainly not for the rich kids. Catholic schools have certainly changed over the last 25 years. I’m amazed even in the nice Johnson County suburbs the people who aren’t even Catholic who send their kids to Catholic schools when they’ve got the best public schools in the state. Paying 12-15K a year (minimum) to get just an ok education, especially if you have a gifted kid for which they aren’t really set up for. But they’re good in sports!
Now that the private schools have raised their tuition (thanks to the vouchers), are there ANY good reasons why the voucher plan is good for Iowans?
We have had multiple families bring their kids BACK to us from private to finish elementary school and then they will move them back to private later for athletics.
Private schools do not have special ed teachers, so are you saying a school should be forced to accept students they have no capacity to teach? Nobody benefits in that world.
Plenty of good reasons and zero bad reasons. They student is being educated what does the tuition have to do with it?
You guys don't even know what tuition actually costs. And, we just spitting out lies.
Wow, you've all got some personal issues to work through on this. This clearly goes much deeper than just a political/educational issue.
Many of you have some childhood trauma to work through apparently.
1) they could easily afford to hire some if they wanted to.
2) depending on the school, most of them could handle at least some special ed students if they chose to.
But they don’t because there’s no requirement and no oversight.
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That would have been a massive financial loss for a private business that was not receiving any money to assist with educating those children until two years ago. They didn't spend the money, because there was no funding, and no demand. That may change in the future with this new law, it will take time for the funding and resources to catch up. The public schools have a huge head start in this area thanks to all the tax money they've received through the decades.
Schools are not businesses.
Private ones were/are, until things changed two years ago.
The public schools did it to themselves, their solution has always been to pour more money into problem which has never worked.
Private schools have always done more with less, for every dollar spent at a public school the private school has spent a nickel and done a better job.
Public school Districts in Iowa are top heavy and always have been. They pass students for merely showing up and never opening a book or turning in a homework assignment. They simply push a kid to the next grade level and at the 12th grade level they hand them a diploma and push them out the door and slap each other on the back congratulating each other for improving the graduation rate.
The public school system in Iowa - It's a total F---ing scam.
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Thanks for agreeing that the voucher system is a scam.
How does the voucher system help educate students?
If it was “all about the kids” perhaps. This is anything BUT abut the kids. Parents living vicariously thru their kids, perhaps. Parents using their kids as crutches, more probable.
You do know I was referring to the public-school systems push em out the door philosophy, that's the scam dumbshit
That's a pretty amazing stat. Link?
If that were true (I don't think it is) we should privatize all schools in Iowa!
It's reality. Public Schools in Iowa are a money pit. You have Administrators falling over each other, you have teachers and teacher aids and associates and then they have helpers all sucking off the publics (taxpayers) tit.
The private schools have been doing this on their own and producing a much better product, and now you begrudge parents who want the best for their child's education.
Just how petty are you?
You are always good for some insults and "deal with its" in a thread like this, but yet again nothing of substance.
Remember when you thought public schools were already receiving money for private school kids on their district? Lol.
So, you don't have any support for your statement that educating a student at a public school costs 20 times what it does at a private school?
Petty? At no time, ever, have I denied the right of parents to send their kids to private school. But -
1. I am opposed to government support of private schools.
And
2. The voucher program doesn't make private school more affordable for anyone.
No. YOU are spitting out lies. You've been wrong from the start but here you are pretending you know what you're talking about. I TOLD YOU.
So what does tuition actually cost? What is included transportation? breakfast? lunch?
I've actually been right all along.
It’s cute that you think all private schools are high minded and would never push kids out the door.
I think you have the definition of right and wrong mixed up in that case.
Depends on if you belong to the church, or if you volunteer, or if you do nothing. 3 tiers of tuition. And, it costs different based upon the grade. But, in general, if you belong to the church or volunteer, it will range from 3k to 6k/year. So, soon to be no cost for most, with the education voucher, until the school is full.
Save for the fact that we know from the original article that they’re upping their tuition rates…
Wrong school. Nice try. Were you just wrong there, or intentionally lying?
What about the other 2 tiers? Does the school provide transportation, free or reduced meals?
It goes up from there. The school provides transportation. They have their own buses. Iowa City dropped them from their bus program years ago, which actually turned out to be great. Iowa City's buses were filled with problems. The school provides free and reduced lunch plans where needed. Those numbers should rise with the voucher program. Which should be great with the IHSAA's recent free and reduced lunch BEDs reduction plan.
I think about double? Maybe a little more?
Most would just pretend to go to church or volunteer a little instead. Very few are just paying the full rate I would think.
Mostly just the foreign students.
So you really don't know how much tuition is either for those that aren't church members.
Not entirely sure. But, the cost of education goes up every single year for public education, so I'd have every reason to expect private schools would have similar needs.
