Then I stand corrected. Good to know that it took an interception to prevent isu from scoring the winning points. Didn't isu come back from a ten point or two touchdown deficit in the fourth quarter to tie the game? More to the point here, how does this 'blue blood' of a program, ranked so highly at the time, allow isu to play them to OT?
ESPN says there are 8 Blue Bloods in College Football
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Then I stand corrected. Good to know that it took an interception to prevent isu from scoring the winning points. Didn't isu come back from a ten point or two touchdown deficit in the fourth quarter to tie the game? More to the point here, how does this 'blue blood' of a program, ranked so highly at the time, allow isu to play them to OT?
It's football. How does a Big Ten school lose to a MAC school at home? Some things just can't be explained.
In this context and sense it can and has been. Nebraska of today is not a blue blood program. Thanks for the assist.
Man, that was hilarious. IIRC, the receiver was so wide open, the holder could have headered the ball to him. Instead he tried to throw it...Iowa State.
We're back to the Callahan days of looking at stars again.
Give me football players, walk-ons 2,3,4,or 5 stars that WANT to play hard nose, physical style football and let's go from there.
Nah, it takes talent, development, and good coaching. If you don't have all of them, you're not going to get where you want.
So, our schedule was very similar to Michigan's. Good find.
I can't say that we enjoy being 3 - 2 vs Iowa since joining the B1G, because our history vs Iowa has been much better. Like I said earlier, we haven't been up to our standards.
Just how dense are you? Wait, don't answer...I've seen a pretty good sampling of your posts to already answer that.
Are you really going to hang your hat on a one game sampling? Well, I guess you have already answered my question. You most certainly are. And that's precisely why you are being laughed at right now.
We are 86-17-2 vs Iowa St. all time. Now slink away from the conversation, like I know you will.
We've gone over this before. Take a look at Iowa's record against the Big 12 and Big 12 North, and it isn't pretty.
You're lucky to be 3-2. It must suck to be a "blueblood" and to get beat by everybody in the Big Ten West, even Purdue and Illinois.
Well this thread has turned into a look at the 1900 schedules, and losing to cuppycakes discussion again. 2 more days until we can talk about football in todays form.
I find it amusing how both sides use close victories and rare losses to the clones as ammunition against each other. Whatcha looking at Willis?
I find it amusing how both sides use close victories and rare losses to the clones as ammunition against each other. Whatcha looking at Willis?
Yeah, because ESECPN is considered such a terrific source of information and impartiality.
Sure thing, Dunce....
One game sampling? Try reading at a pace that allows you to comprehend and retain what is written. There would be two games where UN was all of 1-1 against one of the poorest programs in major football history. Those two games happen to be the most recent meetings between the two institutions and can be just as representative of the relative strength/weakness as anything you have pulled from the sky thus far.
YOU are nothing versus isu or anyone else. UN is 1-1 against isu in the last two meetings. That is a irrefutable fact. Ranked UN somehow managed to lose in Lincoln to isu in 2009 and barely escaped in OT the next year in Ames. Nothing you can say/post will ever alter that, Dunce.
What you keep dodging is the claim you made of UN being able to rule and dominate the Big Ten. That was referring to way back in the day as you now want others to believe. It was you on this very message board not long before UN opted for the move and found out that the Big Ten is not that easy at all.
Isn't Iowa 1-1 vs the clones the last 2 meetings? 2-3 in the last 5? The game in Lincoln where we lost 9-7 we had 7 or 8 turnovers. If it could happen to a team it did that day. Since when did Iowa become a regular world beater?
Maybe you can show me exactly where it is that anyone in this thread had referred to Iowa as "a regular world beater". That is far from the point. The debate is all about the worthiness of a team that has accomplished zero over the last fifteen years and still wants to come to an Iowa message board to beat their collective chest about how good they still must be. No one with any sense and objectivity is buying it.
FYI, Iowa is 6-4 versus isu over the past decade and 24-13 during the campaigns of the last two coaches tenure. Six of those defeats to isu occurred while former Hawkeye Dan McCarney was head coach in Ames. Now, I do not ever expect Nebraskans to understand the dynamics of such an in-state contest, but to come to this forum and cherry pick an absurd period of time to try to prove that UN is now better than Iowa is dumb. You have Dunce to thank for that.
Yeah, it must rank right up there with getting throttled 17-48 in your inaugural Big Ten game as a member institution. Of course, there was the loss at home to Northwestern that same season (and to think that great UN would never stoop so low as to lose to NW!) Then it was the 17-45 shellacking at the hands of Michigan - a lesser ranked UM by the way. Following season, more of the same. Surrendered 63 points to Ohio State, barely beat NW and get absolutely embarrassed in the conference championship game (31-70 and it was not even that close!). Year three, lose as the ranked team at Minnesota, once again manage to squeak by NW by a field goal difference and somehow come up twenty-one points short of lowly Iowa. Rinse and repeat during year four with losses to Michigan State, Minnesota and Wisconsin (24-59!). One year ago Illinois and Purdue ring the collective bell against UN; Purdue amassing 55 total points to garner the Boiler's lone conference victory in 2015.
Do you mean like that, Dunce?
You were the one who "cherry picked the time," saying Nebraska was 1-1 the last two meetings. You set yourself up by calling them one of the poorest programs in college football history. If that is what they are according to you, congrats on your 6-4 and 24-13 record.
No, I was the one that chose to respond to a very wayward UN fan that 'cherry picked' the time. Take it up with Dunce or better yet, take him with you on your way out.
Right back at ya with UN's 0-1 record against Purdue taking into account last year's game only. It is quite the distinction to be the only Big Ten team to be able to lay claim to such stature!
Jeez people it is a historical list. Nebraska is historically a blueblood program. Its just a fact. They have the 4th most wins alltime. THe most conference titles in college football.
From 2002-present. Nebraska's "down period" they have more wins that Michigan, ND, & PSU. Past 15 years or so are factored in, but it is an alltime list.
Nebraska has the wins since
1895 - 4th most
1905 - 6th
1915- 8th
1925 - 8th
1935 - 6th
1945 - 5th
1955 - 1st
1965 - 1st
1975 - 1st
1985 - 2nd
1995 - 8th (7th P5 schools)
2005 - 20th (15th P5 schools)
Nebraska's "down period" is being a Top 20 program.
From 2002-present. Nebraska's "down period" they have more wins that Michigan, ND, & PSU. Past 15 years or so are factored in, but it is an alltime list.
Nebraska has the wins since
1895 - 4th most
1905 - 6th
1915- 8th
1925 - 8th
1935 - 6th
1945 - 5th
1955 - 1st
1965 - 1st
1975 - 1st
1985 - 2nd
1995 - 8th (7th P5 schools)
2005 - 20th (15th P5 schools)
Nebraska's "down period" is being a Top 20 program.
Strange that actual rankings of the teams do not reflect that. Or, perhaps you can show me all the times UN has been considered 20th or better since 2005.
(Also note the convenience of the mid-decade time frames.... completely arbitrary, no doubt.)
I'm not sure I would argue Nebraska has been a top 20 team the past decade but I don't think it's as simple as looking at final rankings. Probably top 25. For instance...a team could have finished in the top 20 three to four times in the time span but finished under .500 the remainder of the years. Does that make them a top 20 team? Probably not. Either way, ESPN's article was pertaining to all time...not the past decade. If you couple in Nebraska's rich history then they are a blue blood despite the mediocre to good resume over the past 15 years. In fact, every team on that list has had a period of time where they were "down."
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Somehow, for being as smart as you repeatedly say that you are, I would have thought that you knew that Nebraska wasn't in the BIG in 2000. We were supposed to have won a BIG championship when we weren't in the league? You must know something I don't about how that works. Your rhetoric is confusing me. gbr
The difference is most of the teams on the list will come back to blueblood status even if they have down years. Most of them have built-in recruiting advantages that Nebraska doesn't have. In reality Nebraska doesn't have any better future prospects than Iowa. Why would they? Sure, Nebraska will have a good year here and there just like Iowa did last year.
Darn it!! I couldn't wait to see how cool it was to ride on the back of the truck and pick up people's refuse.
You're right. I should take the opinion of a slack-jawed Cleti from Iowa. Throw up a sign and antenna on your shanty and start sharing your wisdom with the sports world.
Everyone knows that a 2-year sampling of games carries much more weight than than a 20-year trend. I always forget that, and now you are here to set the sports world straight.
Tom Osborne, whom I wouldn't exactly confuse with Jimmy Fallon in terms of personality-plus, recruited #1 classes to Lincoln, NE and had numerous Top 5-10 classes. If a coaching staff is able to develop talent with a Top 10-20 class, which Riley can easily do at Nebraska, who knows what can happen.
It starts with getting Top level talent to visit campus, which clearly Riley and his staff are doing. 2 5-stars and multiple 4-stars visiting Lincoln this weekend. You gotta get 'em on campus before you can get 'em to commit.
EDIT - Make that 3 5-stars and multiple 4-stars visiting thus weekend.
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Taking N. Illinois or Bowling Green lightly could result in a loss. Most MAC teams play some solid football - especially those two who have dominated the MAC championships over the last few years. The NFL has several former MAC players on their rosters. Like you said: it's football and anything can happen on a given Saturday.
