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Ferentz visited Waggoner last night, UCLA also involved

I got asked a question and answered unlike what most of you cowards would have done, particularly the one who asked.
 
I'm giving him credit for the fence guys, but he should be cognizant and get off his ass before they get on the fence and lock it down. Oliver didn't have anything to do with effort, you're right. His name shouldn't have even been evoked in this conversation. Obviously Ferentz is going to in-home visit a 4 star Iowa City kid.
You are giving him credit by claiming he is a lazy fat cat???? And yet wonder why we consider you a troll? Saying KF is bad at clock management is one thing and I get some criticism like that, however; when you attack his character and work ethic you lose 100% credibility and are an obvious troll or dipshit....my guess is both
 
You do realize that since the 2002 draft 60 Iowa players have been drafted by the NFL. That averages four a year. Yeah, Ferentz sucks at recruiting.

If you're cool with 7-5, losing to NW/PUR, and getting throttled in bowl games, great. Just don't expect us to see eye to eye.
 
Seems odd that Ferentz would go visit Waggoner and then they are suddenly moving on in another direction. I know he's a class act but would he need to tell him personally. Could had the case though, as we are reportedly no longer hosting DL Taylor. Something about new priorities.
It is not about Waggoner it is about DE from Ohio
 
I'm 34, UIowa alum, degrees in History/Poly Sci, smarter than Brian Ferentz (because he copied off me in college), recruited by Rick Heller to play baseball, banged Jake Christensen's girl, and have millions under my control on a daily basis. What about you? Show Iowa diploma or GTFO.

The sooner you fogies die off, the better it is for this football program.
I am sure all of this is 100% truthful
 
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Didn’t read any of this thread so SIAP, but Waggoner is no longer a take for Iowa
 
Didn’t read any of this thread so SIAP, but Waggoner is no longer a take for Iowa

He gone. If he wanted to be a hawk would have committed a while ago. This is Oliver Martin all over again. Waiting game then goes elsewhere.
 
I left off my employer because I'm not a baby boomer idiot like yourself that doesn't understand the internet. Where's your diploma?

I was recruited by Heller when he was at UNI.
Congrats I guess. What kind of cookie do you want? We can all make up crap that doesn't stick when it comes down to it. Anyways, even if it's all true about you, what does it have to do with Iowa Football? I could post my education, experience, and sports accomplishments, but it doesn't mean my opinion about Iowa football is truth like you like to state your opinion. Why don't you ask Blair how many in-home visits KF does. I believe you'll be surprised how wrong you are.
 
You guys are a bunch of literal dolts that are glossing over the point. My point is Kirk Ferentz doesn't work hard on the recruiting trail and that's something that cannot be refuted. He coasts by unchecked when we need him pounding the pavement. If he's not willing to put in the work, it's time to go. Simple as that. If you don't believe that, then you're part of the problem.


You are literally the most unenlightened man I've ran into on here, you couldn't manage 10 cents for me. The diligence, hard work & ability to identify talent on the recruiting trail of this Iowa staff is about as well documented as anything there is to say about Iowa and KF.

I'm going to get very real with you, The world (and if you are who you say you are you should know this) is all about efficiency and bang for you buck and not wasting resources on a wild hair.. We are NOT going to recruit the west coast well period, unless we have someone who comes in from there and helps us or we have a connection....Hayden did marginally, KF has marginally and it isn't a good use of our resources. My 13 year old could tell you that and he knows NOTHING about recruiting.

People like you are limited thinkers, you say hey, there is 300 recruits in California, why arent we out there. The interesting thing (and this is why "some people in our midst and we see them in the news, struggle to understand") it seems logical and like..."hey yeah no kidding"...but it doesn't take into account monies, likely hoods, resources spent vs ROI, etc....it also shows a blatant lack of understanding of the mechanics of recruiting and who does and who doesn't successfully recruit out west...

Honestly and I'd think a big mouth critic like you would know this, there are very, very, very few programs that truly recruit nationally and they ain't Wisconsin, or Iowa or MSU, etc...unless they have an alumni connection or a coach from there.

You arguments are ignorant and easy to see through and oh by the way, you sound the same on the Tennessee board, your name down there though is window licker....
 
I think a lot of people underestimate the amount of work some coaching staffs put into recruiting vs other less motivated coaching staffs. I played a sport in college and unfortunately half the coaches got lazy about recruiting while I was there, so it cost us big time by my senior year. This is one of the advantages to having a younger more energetic coach that's going to put in the work on the recruiting trail.


Great point, we do have some young go getters as evidenced by Indiana opening up.
 
I think our staff works very hard, especially over the past few years with the injection of youth, but not our head coach.


That's because you don't like him, you are jaded by your hostility and your irrational belief he is a bad coach.
 
Congrats I guess. What kind of cookie do you want? We can all make up crap that doesn't stick when it comes down to it. Anyways, even if it's all true about you, what does it have to do with Iowa Football? I could post my education, experience, and sports accomplishments, but it doesn't mean my opinion about Iowa football is truth like you like to state your opinion. Why don't you ask Blair how many in-home visits KF does. I believe you'll be surprised how wrong you are.

It has absolutely nothing to do with Iowa football and I have no idea why that dummy brought it up. Being that I'm an Iowa alum and safely assuming most of you are not, I'm not going to accept getting talked down to about Iowa recruiting by a bunch of farm hands that have never left Shenandoah and Ottumwa in their lives.

Blair, how many in-home visits did KF do this past year outside of B1G territory? Include B1G states east of OH as well if you wouldn't mind. How many in-home visits has KF EVER done west of Nebraska?
 
The diligence, hard work & ability to identify talent on the recruiting trail of this Iowa staff is about as well documented as anything there is to say about Iowa and KF.

I'm going to get very real with you, The world (and if you are who you say you are you should know this) is all about efficiency and bang for you buck and not wasting resources on a wild hair.. We are NOT going to recruit the west coast well period, unless we have someone who comes in from there and helps us or we have a connection....Hayden did marginally, KF has marginally and it isn't a good use of our resources. My 13 year old could tell you that and he knows NOTHING about recruiting.

People like you are limited thinkers, you say hey, there is 300 recruits in California, why arent we out there. The interesting thing (and this is why "some people in our midst and we see them in the news, struggle to understand") it seems logical and like..."hey yeah no kidding"...but it doesn't take into account monies, likely hoods, resources spent vs ROI, etc....it also shows a blatant lack of understanding of the mechanics of recruiting and who does and who doesn't successfully recruit out west...

Honestly and I'd think a big mouth critic like you would know this, there are very, very, very few programs that truly recruit nationally and they ain't Wisconsin, or Iowa or MSU, etc...unless they have an alumni connection or a coach from there.

You arguments are ignorant and easy to see through and oh by the way, you sound the same on the Tennessee board, your name down there though is window licker....

You just love putting words in poster's mouths. I'm not TN board guy so get that out of your head. I did not say a thing about identification - it's evident they do a good job in that regard. My argument here is that KIRK FERENTZ is not working hard enough to get recruits outside of our "normal" recruiting grounds. His staff tries, but I haven't seen him personally make much of an effort to reach outside the upper Midwest throughout the years. I may be wrong, but I doubt it because there's very little evidence to the contrary.

I get the efficiency aspect, but our ROI will always be zero west of the Rockies if we put in zero effort. We aren't going to get a single recruit from California if we don't try. If we don't try, we're never going to build any sort of connection or pipeline. It's people like YOU that are the limited thinkers. You miss 100% of shots you don't take.

You guys are getting the offense you deserve. Let's just continue to convert 2 star IL QBs to receivers and pray it improves.
 
I got asked a question and answered unlike what most of you cowards would have done, particularly the one who asked.
I do know this Hawkeye Report will use pseudo-names and these "posters" try to create traffic by making brash comments and calling out the intelligence of small town farm Iowans just to create more traffic. I was just probing. I already knew who you were!
 
It has absolutely nothing to do with Iowa football and I have no idea why that dummy brought it up. Being that I'm an Iowa alum and safely assuming most of you are not, I'm not going to accept getting talked down to about Iowa recruiting by a bunch of farm hands that have never left Shenandoah and Ottumwa in their lives.

Blair, how many in-home visits did KF do this past year outside of B1G territory? Include B1G states east of OH as well if you wouldn't mind. How many in-home visits has KF EVER done west of Nebraska?
You sound like a Clone troll talking down to Iowa fans who didn't attend Iowa. Why do some think one has to attend a school to be as much of a fan as someone who attended the school they are a fan of.
 
He's not a bad coach, but he is a lazy recruiter.
Lazy recruiter? Or knows what he's looking for in a player and brings them in and develops them into good football players (see NFL players for evidence) and even better people.
 
You are literally the most unenlightened man I've ran into on here, you couldn't manage 10 cents for me. The diligence, hard work & ability to identify talent on the recruiting trail of this Iowa staff is about as well documented as anything there is to say about Iowa and KF.

I'm going to get very real with you, The world (and if you are who you say you are you should know this) is all about efficiency and bang for you buck and not wasting resources on a wild hair.. We are NOT going to recruit the west coast well period, unless we have someone who comes in from there and helps us or we have a connection....Hayden did marginally, KF has marginally and it isn't a good use of our resources. My 13 year old could tell you that and he knows NOTHING about recruiting.

People like you are limited thinkers, you say hey, there is 300 recruits in California, why arent we out there. The interesting thing (and this is why "some people in our midst and we see them in the news, struggle to understand") it seems logical and like..."hey yeah no kidding"...but it doesn't take into account monies, likely hoods, resources spent vs ROI, etc....it also shows a blatant lack of understanding of the mechanics of recruiting and who does and who doesn't successfully recruit out west...

Honestly and I'd think a big mouth critic like you would know this, there are very, very, very few programs that truly recruit nationally and they ain't Wisconsin, or Iowa or MSU, etc...unless they have an alumni connection or a coach from there.

You arguments are ignorant and easy to see through and oh by the way, you sound the same on the Tennessee board, your name down there though is window licker....
Don't want in the pissing match, but look at it conversely. These Pac 12 schools aren't going to PA, MI, OH, Chicago for kids. It is what CM says return and efficiency. I live in a hotbed of D1 recruiting here in CA. The vast vast majority of these kids go PAC 12....but AL, OSU, Michigan pick off some. Kirk made a nice haul in TX and his assistants screwed it up.
 
You sound like a Clone troll talking down to Iowa fans who didn't attend Iowa. Why do some think one has to attend a school to be as much of a fan as someone who attended the school they are a fan of.

Lazy recruiter? Or knows what he's looking for in a player and brings them in and develops them into good football players (see NFL players for evidence) and even better people.

I don't, but that piece of paper represents my skin in the game. What's yours? Posting on here? Going to a game or two a year? This university is on my resume for life, and, to a certain degree, the University of Iowa's national reputation is tied in with the success of this football program. So yeah, I care and want us to compete for championships on a more consistent basis. I'm not a ~.550 employee and I don't expect this team to be either.

Recruiting players is not the same as developing players. Stay on topic.
 
You just love putting words in poster's mouths. I'm not TN board guy so get that out of your head. I did not say a thing about identification - it's evident they do a good job in that regard. My argument here is that KIRK FERENTZ is not working hard enough to get recruits outside of our "normal" recruiting grounds. His staff tries, but I haven't seen him personally make much of an effort to reach outside the upper Midwest throughout the years. I may be wrong, but I doubt it because there's very little evidence to the contrary.

I get the efficiency aspect, but our ROI will always be zero west of the Rockies if we put in zero effort. We aren't going to get a single recruit from California if we don't try. If we don't try, we're never going to build any sort of connection or pipeline. It's people like YOU that are the limited thinkers. You miss 100% of shots you don't take.

You guys are getting the offense you deserve. Let's just continue to convert 2 star IL QBs to receivers and pray it improves.

Yeah your on the Tennessee board, there are idiots down there that sound just like you, are just as unenlightened as you and just as hostile...They may not be called "greenlight" but they are just as "mad" that their team doesn't care enough or work hard enough or, or, or...all the while you are spending time on a message board working your ass off, let that sink in for a minute.

You have ZERO clue how hard any of these men work and it is very telling of your character and who and what you are about to come on here and call them into question. People like you are whats wrong with the world not whats right.....and your also whats wrong at Texas, or UT or, A&M or name the team.....
 
Yeah your on the Tennessee board, there are idiots down there that sound just like you, are just as unenlightened as you and just as hostile...They may not be called "greenlight" but they are just as "mad" that their team doesn't care enough or work hard enough or, or, or...all the while you are spending time on a message board working your ass off, let that sink in for a minute.

You have ZERO clue how hard any of these men work and it is very telling of your character and who and what you are about to come on here and call them into question. People like you are whats wrong with the world not whats right.....and your also whats wrong at Texas, or UT or, A&M or name the team.....

Yeah, ok buddy. Show Iowa degree or GTFO.
 
You just love putting words in poster's mouths. I'm not TN board guy so get that out of your head. I did not say a thing about identification - it's . It's people like YOU that are the limited thinkers. You miss 100% of shots you don't take.

You guys are getting the offense you deserve. Let's just continue to convert 2 star IL QBs to receivers and pray it improves.

This statement and your response is why I mentioned it in the first place...its the new democratic process, those that think they are enlightened and open minded are really the ones who are closed minded, that was the point.....thanks for playing
 
I do know this Hawkeye Report will use pseudo-names and these "posters" try to create traffic by making brash comments and calling out the intelligence of small town farm Iowans just to create more traffic. I was just probing. I already knew who you were!


You serious Clark...?!?!
 
I do know this Hawkeye Report will use pseudo-names and these "posters" try to create traffic by making brash comments and calling out the intelligence of small town farm Iowans just to create more traffic. I was just probing. I already knew who you were!
Not a chance nor would there be any incentive to do so. Why you continue to post this is beyond me.
 
I don't, but that piece of paper represents my skin in the game. What's yours? Posting on here? Going to a game or two a year? This university is on my resume for life, and, to a certain degree, the University of Iowa's national reputation is tied in with the success of this football program. So yeah, I care and want us to compete for championships on a more consistent basis. I'm not a ~.550 employee and I don't expect this team to be either.

Recruiting players is not the same as developing players. Stay on topic.


I actually disagree.....you can't develop just anyone and that's a real slap in the face of all these kids who come here. It also doesn't take into account the 50 plus 2 stars that have played as Frosh....how much developing happened there...not a lot.
 
Kirk made a nice haul in TX and his assistants screwed it up.

No, the assistants had them in the bag. KF didn't know what these assistants were telling these recruits (taking visits, etc) because he wasn't clued in as to WTF was going on for a period of time. JUST MAYBE if he went to visit them down in their home in Texas after they committed and told them exactly what's up, that whole thing could have gotten sorted out and not closed off our pipeline and progress into TX for the foreseeable future.
 
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No, the assistants had them in the bag. KF didn't know what these assistants were telling these recruits (taking visits, etc) because he wasn't clued in as to WTF was going on for a period of time. JUST MAYBE if he went to visit them down in their home in Texas after they committed and told them exactly what's up, maybe that whole thing could have gotten sorted out and not closed off our pipeline and progress into TX for the foreseeable future.
KF can't do in-home visits until the contact period starts and that's late November. All the Texas stuff had already blown up by then last year.
 
So, Iowa has to recruit against this? Uh, oh.

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It has absolutely nothing to do with Iowa football and I have no idea why that dummy brought it up. Being that I'm an Iowa alum and safely assuming most of you are not, I'm not going to accept getting talked down to about Iowa recruiting by a bunch of farm hands that have never left Shenandoah and Ottumwa in their lives.

Blair, how many in-home visits did KF do this past year outside of B1G territory? Include B1G states east of OH as well if you wouldn't mind. How many in-home visits has KF EVER done west of Nebraska?
Iowa rarely recruits west of Nebraska, so not very many obviously, only a handful when they go after guys that way. If they continue to recruit this California QB, Spencer Petras, he'll visit him for sure.

I know last year he visited Kyshaun Bryan and Josh Turner in Florida, Trey Creamer in Georgia, Brandon Smith in Mississippi, and Thomas Johnston in Alabama. If you want to include the East Coast, Ihmir Smith-Marsette in New Jersey. He also went to see Peyton Mansell and Matt Hankins in Texas.
 
No, the assistants had them in the bag. KF didn't know what these assistants were telling these recruits (taking visits, etc) because he wasn't clued in as to WTF was going on for a period of time. JUST MAYBE if he went to visit them down in their home in Texas after they committed and told them exactly what's up, maybe that whole thing could have gotten sorted out and not closed off our pipeline and progress into TX for the foreseeable future.
Also I have my piece of paper from U of Iowa. My Dad didn't and he was a bigger fan than me.
 
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