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For those who are petrified of life after Kirk…

You must be related to @Frosty7130 Flakes.
Wow. “A coaching change is a coaching change…” LMAO. Okay. Yeah, because Alabama, Washington, and Michigan were all trying to move on from coaches who took their teams to the CFP. Excellent point. And Nebraska should have stuck with Frost and Wisconsin should have extended Paul Chryst through 2032. Btw, has Nebraska been better since Matt Rhule took over? Without question. Jesus.


Again, though, the point is one bad hire isn’t a death sentence to a program. When a change is needed, a change is needed. But if you enjoy Kirk ball, more power to you.
My free rent will be due again in a month! Not surprising your threat to be done was empty too lol
 
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My free rent will be due again in a month! Not surprising your threat to be done was empty too lol
I knew your bitch ass would show up eventually. 😝

You’re entertaining to me. Of course I like the dialogue.

As stated, I am done watching Iowa football until Ferentz is gone. That is true. Somehow that got interpreted by you and other members of the Ferentz fellatio fan club that I was done posting. I enjoy your wit and football acumen too much.
 
I knew your bitch ass would show up eventually. 😝

You’re entertaining to me. Of course I like the dialogue.

As stated, I am done watching Iowa football until Ferentz is gone. That is true. Somehow that got interpreted by you and other members of the Ferentz fellatio fan club that I was done posting. I enjoy your wit and football acumen too much.
Of course, I know you can't go more than a month without crying for your daddy, something else has to stave off the constant temper tantrums and pathetic attention-seeking lol
 
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Be careful what you ask for, remember what happened when we ran Tom Davis off.








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Brilliant response. You do realize KF is mortal, right, and that some day . . . maybe tomorrow, maybe in 20 years . . . KF will be dead. I presume he will no longer be coaching football at Iowa at that point, but I could be wrong.

Ask Indiana how hard it is to find a new coach who can win games and entertain at the same time.
 
2 problems:

* KF has a $30M buyout. Who's gonna cut that check when we can barely compete in NIL?

* He is signed thru 2029.

Beth: "You know coach, some day your statue will be outside Kinnick. Hell, if things go right, it might even be called Kinnick-Ferentz by then."

Kirk: "Awwww, shucks."

Beth: "Wouldn't it be something if you and Mary were still alive when that happened, so you could be there to enjoy it?"

Kirk: "Yeah....wait....what?"

[long pause]

Beth: "Why don't you stop by my office later so we can chat about your future."



See how it works fellas, he's got all the money he'll ever need, now it's about legacy and whether he'll actually get to see that glorious moment before the pine box arrives.
 
Brilliant response. You do realize KF is mortal, right, and that some day . . . maybe tomorrow, maybe in 20 years . . . KF will be dead. I presume he will no longer be coaching football at Iowa at that point, but I could be wrong.

Ask Indiana how hard it is to find a new coach who can win games and entertain at the same time.
you should ask them---how long has Indiana been down and how many coaches have they went thru till they found this current one---seems sort of like Iowa in the 60-70 before Fry does it not....
 
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Indiana is living proof in the era of NIL and the transfer portal that with the right coach a program can be turned around in one year.

That’s all.
I completely understand your sentiment, but let's slow the IU hype train down a little. They have not played anybody yet. And let's see how they do over more than one year. Take a look at KU for example. After an initial flurry, it appears they may be revering back to their long-term mediocrity.

My fear is that schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois... will occasionally catch lightning in a bottle (via the portal or NIL), but will fall further behind OSU, Oregon, PSU and UM in the arms race.
 
I completely understand your sentiment, but let's slow the IU hype train down a little. They have not played anybody yet. And let's see how they do over more than one year. Take a look at KU for example. After an initial flurry, it appears they may be revering back to their long-term mediocrity.

My fear is that schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois... will occasionally catch lightning in a bottle (via the portal or NIL), but will fall further behind OSU, Oregon, PSU and UM in the arms race.
I agree with you, but none of that is my point.

The point is it’s ridiculous to fear the end of Kirk’s tenure because of the possibility the next hire could be worse. Doesn’t matter anymore. One bad hire isn’t going to tank your program that takes years to climb out of.
 
I completely understand your sentiment, but let's slow the IU hype train down a little. They have not played anybody yet. And let's see how they do over more than one year. Take a look at KU for example. After an initial flurry, it appears they may be revering back to their long-term mediocrity.

My fear is that schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois... will occasionally catch lightning in a bottle (via the portal or NIL), but will fall further behind OSU, Oregon, PSU and UM in the arms race.
Nothing is going to change college football's hierarchy at this point, especially with the elevated scholarship limit.
 
I completely understand your sentiment, but let's slow the IU hype train down a little. They have not played anybody yet. And let's see how they do over more than one year. Take a look at KU for example. After an initial flurry, it appears they may be revering back to their long-term mediocrity.

My fear is that schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois... will occasionally catch lightning in a bottle (via the portal or NIL), but will fall further behind OSU, Oregon, PSU and UM in the arms race.
In other words, nothing has really changed.
 
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Indiana is living proof in the era of NIL and the transfer portal that with the right coach a program can be turned around in one year.

That’s all.
Sparty is also proof. I think that guy can coach. He's taken over an absolute shitshow and more than made them competitive. Kirk has been a great representative for the school and we've won a lot of games but he does not deserve a golden parachute. The league is evolving, and we need to evolve w/it. Could we turn into Nebraska? Sure, it's possible. Big Ten and SEC are going to continue to pull away from the other leagues money wise, and you either keep up or don't. We're not going to get any skill players playing the way we play. We're 3-4 years into this now w/out a legit number 1 receiver. Every receiver we get is a project or an athlete from high school hoping we can develop him and it's pretty obvious we can't at this point.
 
Nothing is going to change college football's hierarchy at this point, especially with the elevated scholarship limit.
KU lost their O coordinator in the Summer, which has clearly hurt them and really helped Penn St. Look around. Vanderbilt is in the top 25. Ohio St has been good for 50 years, Bama, etc. Actually things are changing. Bama has lost twice, hardly anyone is undefeated 6-7 weeks into the season. Upsets galore. And then there's Iowa, chugging along.
 
KU lost their O coordinator in the Summer, which has clearly hurt them and really helped Penn St. Look around. Vanderbilt is in the top 25. Ohio St has been good for 50 years, Bama, etc. Actually things are changing. Bama has lost twice, hardly anyone is undefeated 6-7 weeks into the season. Upsets galore. And then there's Iowa, chugging along.
Since 1994 when the 85 player limit was established, the top G4 teams by winning percentage are...

1. Ohio St.
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Oklahoma
5. Oregon
6. Florida St.
7. LSU
8. Michigan
9. Florida
10. Clemson
11. Wisconsin
12. Texas
13. Penn St.
14. USC
15. Virginia Tech
16. Utah
17. TCU
18. Miami
19. Kansas St.
20. BYU

I would hazard to guess that the 12 playoff teams this year will come out of that pool, and will continue to. Currently, there are only three in the top 12 that are not on this list (Tennessee, ISU and Notre Dame). Which one of those three doesn't belong? ND and Tennessee are historic blue bloods.
 
Since 1994 when the 85 player limit was established, the top G4 teams by winning percentage are...

1. Ohio St.
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Oklahoma
5. Oregon
6. Florida St.
7. LSU
8. Michigan
9. Florida
10. Clemson
11. Wisconsin
12. Texas
13. Penn St.
14. USC
15. Virginia Tech
16. Utah
17. TCU
18. Miami
19. Kansas St.
20. BYU

I would hazard to guess that the 12 playoff teams this year will come out of that pool, and will continue to. Currently, there are only three in the top 12 that are not on this list (Tennessee, ISU and Notre Dame). Which one of those three doesn't belong? ND and Tennessee are historic blue bloods.
Bama, Oklahoma, FSU, probably LSU, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, USC, VA Tech, Utah, , TCU and are definitely out this year. That's over half your teams. Now BYU or K St have a chance to make it along w/Iowa St I guess, one of those 2 but definitely not both. So that's 12 of your 20.
 
Bama, Oklahoma, FSU, probably LSU, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, USC, VA Tech, Utah, , TCU and are definitely out this year. That's over half your teams. Now BYU or K St have a chance to make it along w/Iowa St I guess, one of those 2 but definitely not both. So that's 12 of your 20.
Bama and LSU will be in.
 
This is truly the 1st game I am completely apathetic about. I don’t care if we win or lose this or any future game, until Kirk retires.
I am right there with you. It’s time. I’m afraid it’s going to get very ugly with the fan base before he decides to hang it up unfortunately.

I have reached the point where I don’t care if we get 10 wins or whatever with Kirk….this is just awful football to watch. It used to be “complimentary” football. But the last 5 years it has pretty much turned into relying on the defense to be absolutely perfect (and score themselves), and being able to run for 200 yards with an NFL back this year….or else we are completely out of luck.
 
They’re not taking 4 from the SEC. Texas, Bama, GA, Tennessee, and LSU. 2 of those won’t make it.
Who says?

You have four other "conference champs" which leaves seven at-large teams. You don't think 3-4 more of them will be from the SEC?

Who else do they take?

I would imagine the Big Ten and SEC get 7-8 of the spots total.

Big Ten: Oregon, PSU, OSU/Indiana
SEC: Georgia, Texas, LSU, Bama, Tennessee
ACC: Miami, Clemson (might only get one)
Big 12: One of ISU, BYU or KSU
G5: Boise St? (who has the #2 winning percentage since 1994)
Does ND count as G5?
 
KU lost their O coordinator in the Summer, which has clearly hurt them and really helped Penn St. Look around. Vanderbilt is in the top 25. Ohio St has been good for 50 years, Bama, etc. Actually things are changing. Bama has lost twice, hardly anyone is undefeated 6-7 weeks into the season. Upsets galore. And then there's Iowa, chugging along.
So coaching changes can make a team worse, which could be what happens at Iowa. By the way why couldn't their HC find a decent OC. They are 2-5 beating Lindenwood and a 2-5 Houston, now they have to face the top Big 12 teams.

So Iowa is chugging along at 4-3 playing 2 top 10 teams and Kansas is 2-5 playing 0 top 10 teams. What is Kansas doing?
 
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So coaching changes can make a team worse, which could be what happens at Iowa. By the way why couldn't their HC find a decent OC. They are 2-5 beating Lindenwood and a 2-5 Houston, now they have to face the top Big 12 teams.

So Iowa is chugging along at 4-3 playing 2 top 10 teams and Kansas is 2-5 playing 0 top 10 teams. What is Kansas doing?
Well of course it can happen. On the other hand firing the o coordinator at Penn St and hiring the one from KU helped them. How about that?
 
So coaching changes can make a team worse, which could be what happens at Iowa. By the way why couldn't their HC find a decent OC. They are 2-5 beating Lindenwood and a 2-5 Houston, now they have to face the top Big 12 teams.

So Iowa is chugging along at 4-3 playing 2 top 10 teams and Kansas is 2-5 playing 0 top 10 teams. What is Kansas doing?
Kansas also has to travel 90 minutes-2 hours round trip to KC to play their home games at Arrowhead because their stadium in Lawrence is being renovated. I don't know where they're practicing, maybe the fieldhouse.
 
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Kansas also has to travel 90 minutes-2 hours round trip to KC to play their home games at Arrowhead because their stadium in Lawrence is being renovated. I don't know where they're practicing, maybe the fieldhouse.
I would guess they stay in a hotel before home games like Iowa and ISU. Get a hotel near Arrowhead. How does UCLA handle playing in the Rose Bowl? Iowa does not practice at Kinnick stadium, Kansas does not have practice fields?
 
Indiana is living proof in the era of NIL and the transfer portal that with the right coach a program can be turned around in one year.

That’s all.
The immediate turn-around worked for IU because CC brought several quality players with him from JMU. They already had played together in CC's system. He then obviously did a great job of getting the other pieces he needed to go along with them and the key holdovers from the previous regime (e.g., the o-line).

If a coach can't bring a core group like that and/or doesn't inherit much, then it would take longer. But, to your point, not as long as previously. There are a lot of good players on Iowa's roster, so it wouldn't take a complete overhaul if a coach can fill the key positions of need.
 
How about petrified of life with Kirk? The old man has been around for a quarter of a century. If he had some decency and common sense, he would know that it's time to exit. The parade has passed him by. He will never accomplish any more or do anything different than decades past. It's time for Iowa football and its fans to not be content with a shit bowl every year.
 
Indiana is living proof in the era of NIL and the transfer portal that with the right coach a program can be turned around in one year.

That’s all.
Judging by the attitude of many who post here it is safe to say that Indiana has a better nil program. So don’t count on that happening at Iowa.
 
The immediate turn-around worked for IU because CC brought several quality players with him from JMU. They already had played together in CC's system. He then obviously did a great job of getting the other pieces he needed to go along with them and the key holdovers from the previous regime (e.g., the o-line).

If a coach can't bring a core group like that and/or doesn't inherit much, then it would take longer. But, to your point, not as long as previously. There are a lot of good players on Iowa's roster, so it wouldn't take a complete overhaul if a coach can fill the key positions of need.
True. But it's also true that he recruited those guys, coached them up into the team they were. No reason he can't do that at IU.
 
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