My one hope, and presumption, is that the next head coach will be given time to work through any rough patches and build this thing back up, and to wherever the new coach is hoping to take us.
I understand your point about some fearing the end of Kirk is the end of IA football. I do not see that at all. What I am saying is we have no idea how successful the new coach will be or when it will happen. Of Couse it is going to happen. Just some on here want it right now and some do not. I have no control over it, so I am going to support the players that are wearing black and gold. Just my opinion.
Using Indiana to prove a point about the good that can come from getting a new coach is deeply flawed. In fact it actually proves the opposite point.
Uggghhh. For the one millionth time: That. Is. Not. The. Point.
Even if stadium was empty there's still tv money coming in
The point is not to be scared of the next hire.
I've said this for years. Iowa should be able to attract some of the best and highest profile coaches in football for all the reasons you said. Add in cost of living and it's a no brainer
Well, I don't think anyone is, since 95% want him to retire or get fired on this board.
Just about the same odds of Ferentz ever taking Iowa to the CFP. I look at the National Championship the same way I used to look at Playmates....Would love to visit, but know it will never happen!
I think there’s A LOT to like about Iowa if you’re a coach being pursued by Goetz/the search committee.
Indiana's meteoric rise is due to a few factors including a favorable schedule. But don't let that overshadow the legit point. The right coach can come in and change things pretty quickly if they're good. Cig is not a fluke, he's been on the rise. Find that kind of coach and you can be competitive pretty fast.
These guys like to quibble with every possible little point to justify wanting Kirk to coach until he’s 90. They will never admit it, but deep down that’s how they think.
This is what I see as well. There might be occasional lip service to acknowledging the reality that one day he will be gone. But then it quickly goes to all the usual arguments for him to stay indefinitely, "earned the right to leave on his own terms", etc.
You make a good point but I don't think it is the one you are trying to make. Yes, turnarounds don't have to take 5-10 years like they used to and teams like Indiana have shown they can take only 1 year.
You know, this is probably one of the best posts I have read on here…possibly ever.
No, that will never happen. Nor should anyone expect it to.
Agreed, NCHawkeye made some great observations. Best case scenario is that Kirk plays GM (his strength) and lets his OC and DC run their show. He's done that with DC. The question is...can he get over his fear on the offensive side of the ball and allow Lester some freedom.
how was he able to get so many good players from small schools? Amazing story., shows that Kirk is trash and needs to be fired asap but there is too much loyalty to him all because he is a good person. all bs.
Maybe, but our facilities and salary just might bring them back. Not to mention the 100K we get from the B1G Conference every year. Most decent coaches, with their inflated egos, just assume they can win about anywhere. Iowa is more attractive than most. Lots of positives surrounding the Iowa job.
We've had twenty plus years of Kirk's recruiting, or lack of it. Not to mention his mismanagement of offensive personnel. What gives you a sense that suddenly he will actually improve at either?
I have no sense either will actually improve—two of many reasons I am in favor of Kirk retiring.
After 45 years of two great coaches like Hayden and Kirk, certainly the odds are that the next coach won’t be as successful.
Kirk’s recruiting has been consistent with Hayden’s recruiting, maybe a little better. There isn’t a coach in this country who can come to Iowa and load up on 4 and 5* recruits. Both Hayden and Kirk have been successful because they understood that to win they had to identify guys with potential and develop them. Sure, we can get a few top level recruits but to succeed we need to spot guys with potential and with the right intangibles, they coach them up. Both Hayden and Kirk have done a great job of that. The formula for success isnt going to change, doesn’t matter who is brought in. I hope our next coach is as smart as Hayden and Kirk. If not, they will learn the hard way.
He won’t. He wants to win his way which is with statue QBs who are stronger leaders than playmakers.
Oh, and there is no longer the big ten west, one of the greatest gifts of all.
Coach Fry was much better than Ferentz at identifying skill players that would succeed in our system. I'm not even sure that Ferentz considers the QB position to be a skilled one.
Hayden had really good QB’s from 1981 to 91, but after that not so much . Hayden benefited from have the best offensive coordinator in the nation, Bill Snyder through 1988 for sure. Kirk has had good QB’s through most of his tenure until 2021.Coach Fry was much better than Ferentz at identifying skill players that would succeed in our system. I'm not even sure that Ferentz considers the QB position to be a skilled one.
LOL, have you forgotten that Kirk is averaging just about 10 wins per year the past 5 seasons if you adjust for the covid season. If that isn’t good enough for you , you need to get your head out of your ass.
Yes, that would eliminate coaches who solely want to step into an “easier-to-win-quickly” situation. That type of candidate is probably not a candidate.
