I don't care where they were predicted to finish. It's always weird when people use this argument. "Look everybody thinks so poorly of our program and they were wrong so we must have overachieved." The real question should be why were we projected to be so poor? Things were sideways in January because prior to that the coaches had done a terrible job coaching defense for years. So finally turning that around somewhat isn't some great coaching job.
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I don't care where they were predicted to finish. It's always weird when people use this argument. "Look everybody thinks so poorly of our program and they were wrong so we must have overachieved." The real question should be why were we projected to be so poor? Things were sideways in January because prior to that the coaches had done a terrible job coaching defense for years. So finally turning that around somewhat isn't some great coaching job.
He had at least 3 NBA players on one team at the same time, likely more! Insane.
Fran is not done.
I do think there is a large enough body of evidence to show that he wants to be a high volume, 3 point shooting, team that plays mediocre defense. When we are on we are a buzzsaw. The problem is his teams have consistently been poor shooting the ball they use for the NCAA's and "defense travels". He has built the opposite of a ncaa tournament team.
I do think there is a large enough body of evidence to show that he wants to be a high volume, 3 point shooting, team that plays mediocre defense. When we are on we are a buzzsaw. The problem is his teams have consistently been poor shooting the ball they use for the NCAA's and "defense travels". He has built the opposite of a ncaa tournament team.
Have to sort of disagree as the team played like they were emotionally detached from the tip-off. This team IMO was not mentally prepared for this game and lost because of that. You might be less disappointed if it was a a quality team, but Richmond finished 6th in their lower-level conference.
IMO the coach did not have his team mentally ready for the biggest game of the year.
Given what the tournament committee has said, yeah I think the Big Ten would be better off moving things back a day and having the championship game on Saturday.
The issue will be coming to terms with giving up that ratings draw that they get from being the last tournament on the channel the selection show is held on.
They'd be losing a lot of money and viewership by doing that, and my guess is they'll value that over what's best for the athletes/teams.
They got clear open shots, and like I said.....They couldn't hit water if they fell out of a fricken boat! 36% from the field, 21% from 3 point range.
Yeah, they were predicted to finish low because Fran completely shit the bed this off season while the ISU guy was turning a 2 win team into an ncaa team that whipped Frans ass because of the portal. 6 good weeks out of coaching out of 12 months isnt impressive at all, but dipshits seriously thought he was coach of the year material. Jesus.
If it was a coach of February award then maybe but we all know that was schedule aided just like the football teams smoke and mirrors season. Maybe Fran will figure out someday that one trick pony teams tend to not do shit in March.
I saw a lot of cluster, and poor movement. Iowa did not require to shoot out a win for this one.
I think there is a lot to this... and it correlates to poor NCAA tourney performance under Fran. Teams have forced Iowa to play slowdown/half court offense ball - where efficiency is the game. Every possession is crucial when you can't rely on a lot of run-and-gun points to build momentum/confidence, etc. on the offensive end.
When teams can take that away (plus not getting to the FT line more often) it becomes a problem. As you mentioned, I saw a lot of standing around and poor ball movement yesterday. Once the ball was going inside more there seemed to be more success, but it was too late.
I've said this the last few seasons.....Fran has never in his career as a head coach surpassed what he has built at Iowa. He is the master at rebuilds and getting an NCAA invite. Fran has reached his ceiling (and again, what he has mastered during his career).
In terms of yesterdays in-game adjustments. How they didn't continue to pound the ball inside when it was apparent they were not going to find a rhythm from outside is beyond me. Way too much holding of the ball while three others look to set a screen for one other moving around. Way too easy to defend. Richmond will now get rolled.
In terms of yesterdays in-game adjustments. How they didn't continue to pound the ball inside when it was apparent they were not going to find a rhythm from outside is beyond me. Way too much holding of the ball while three others look to set a screen for one other moving around. Way too easy to defend. Richmond will now get rolled.
Watching Ohio State and Purdue handle their opponents so far makes it worse today 
Wait, are you saying Fran and the coaching staff all of a sudden miraculously taught the team to play defense in a couple weeks in January and February?
Did you expect them to sulk? JFC, we have some idiots on this board!
Hey smart gut, jfc I'm talking about after the bigten tournament. You are correct about the intelligence here.
For all those who want Fran fired, tell me who Mr. Barta is going to convince to take the job outside of a lower level coach.
So you are saying Fran has made the Iowa head coaching job unattractive? Interesting.
Fans have a very inflated opinion of the attractiveness of the Iowa job. Iowa is a bottom 3 or 4 job in the conference. There is going to be pretty limited interest whenever the job is open next.
I concur. No P5 coach that is currently having success is going to want to go to Iowa. That leaves P5 coaches on their way out or a coach at a smaller school, like Sienna, looking to move up.
This is ridiculous.
I just shake my head at those who think the Iowa head coaching job is so unattractive, that no decent coach would come here. Only those on their way out, or lower level coaches.
The Iowa State head basketball position used to be ”unattractive “……yet in 1980 they were able to hire a man named Johnny Orr. The head coach at Michigan. Who had taken the Wolverines to two Elite Eights and a national title game.
I’m not saying top tier coaches would be lining up to come to Iowa, but to think no decent coach would come is not only ludicrous, it’s loser talk.
That is, unless you think Fran has made the Iowa job unattractive.
I mean who knows when they started working on it. Could very well have been in the off-season and it took until Feb/March to click or maybe the dead put a renewed focus on it.
Are you sure about Arkansas thing. Pretty sure that rumor was based on them meeting with Steve Forbes who was in town for funeral or something
I would disagree to a point. I’d say there are 5 BIG10 jobs worse than Iowa. People sell Iowa sports and their attractiveness short. Is Iowa State an attractive job? Many would say yes. Iowa has historically been a better program, same recruiting state and similar facilities.
Pretty sobering to think we couldn’t even come close to the Sweet16 with those players. I’m at a loss of what it’s going to take for Fran to accomplish this. I do think it would help if he wasn’t so loyal to his players to a fault. Rebraca worked hard but shouldn’t be a starter at a Power 5 school. Fran needs to recruit over him in the portal but doubt he even considers it.
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Good lord.
Iowa is a top 25 job minimum. You’d have to be a real moron to think otherwise. Facilities, fans, even recruiting here is world class. Watch a different conference game once in a while that isn’t Duke-UNC and you’ll see what I mean.
Besides, in the next 5 years athletic departments are going to directly compensate student athletes. Schools with the most revenue will be able to take advantage, and will get the best athletes. This will happen not just because the NCAA happens to be an illegal cartel restricting trade…but athletic departments will want control of the money instead of a byzantine network of NIL collectives.
And yes, Iowa will have one of those NIL collectives sooner rather than later or recruiting will sour so bad that even Kirk (in FB) won’t be able to pull this car out of the ditch in that sport, let alone Fran and basketball
Yea, what coach is interested in making $3 to $5 million per year. We have settled for average.
You are a tool smart guy? What did you expect after winning the big ten tournament? Sulk? Can you comprehend? Who opens the computer for you?
It was because:
1) NPOTY graduated
2) Another 3-year starter left early
(^^ both drafted NBA)
3) An additional big and 3-year player transferred
4) Glassfoot bailed on the team
That could be the reason for lower predicted finish. Just spit-balling.
Right, because there are only two options. Talk about all sorts of unhealthy argument styles.
Wrong. Title IX will never allow athletic departments to pay athletes. That's the very reason schools and leagues jumped at NIL, and the very reason idiots like Cory Booker got laughed out of committee in the Senate.
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