They won't read it.
How much government money does Planned Parenthood receive?
Over 40% of Planned Parenthood revenue comes from government reimbursements and grants.usafacts.org
France becomes first country to explicitly enshrine abortion rights in constitution
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Not until it has a brain.
Very few people want legal abortions for late-term pregnancies.
They want 20-24 weeks (which is when most complications have already occurred, prior to viability).
Not 6 weeks.
Not 15 weeks.
the part of the population that wants abortion wants it for the whole 9 months. You called it an it. What is it? A rock? A never again to be alive being with a unique genetic code?
But you are making a broad argument not necessary and why we can't come to consensus. You want your egg and eat it as well.
He counters what he calls hypotheticals with hypotheticals.
It's like a bar getting someone addicted to alcohol so they come to the bar. But you know that.
Riddle me this Joe...what organization is the biggest abortion provider?
They...Joe won't read it.
Abortion is Planned Parenthood’s Money Maker -
Planned Parenthood released its 2020 - 2021 annual report for services spanning from late 2019 to late 2020 last month. In the time frame covered, Planned Parenthood ended the lives of over 380,000 unborn babies nationwide. That number shows an increase of nearly 28,600 abortions from the...
www.texasallianceforlife.org
Who should provide abortions? Edit: Also, do you have the same information from a non-biased source?Riddle me this Joe...what organization is the biggest abortion provider?
They...Joe won't read it.
Abortion is Planned Parenthood’s Money Maker -
Planned Parenthood released its 2020 - 2021 annual report for services spanning from late 2019 to late 2020 last month. In the time frame covered, Planned Parenthood ended the lives of over 380,000 unborn babies nationwide. That number shows an increase of nearly 28,600 abortions from the...www.texasallianceforlife.org
Charlotte Lozier Institute - Pro-Lies.org | Extreme. Toxic. Out of Touch.
CLI pushes alarmist narratives about women who need abortions later in pregnancy and advocates for deceptive anti-abortion centers.
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I was replying to a specific person and using his methods. The subject requires good communication and discussion which neither side seems capable of.
You are just flat wrong. I guess that's the short of it. And looking foolish in doing so.
If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it was did it actually fall?
You don't have any expertise in this area Joe. What you believe is simply not true. Cardiac flow and function can be heard by doppler by transvaginal ultrasound around 5-6 weeks and by external ultrasound around 9-10 as stated prior.
In simple terms, Doppler is a device that converts the blood flow motion into sound. If it makes sound it is detecting motion. In this case blood is flowing. If the SA node firing is all that is happening, how do you account for the fact the fetal circulation is moving?
Because the myocardium is responding to the SA node signals and contracting making blood flow. Otherwise know a heartbeat.
The medical professionals on here are laughing at you Bud.
@What Would Jesus Do? Told you....
It's a group of cells that pulse rhythmically, contract and force blood to flow. Yep. Heartbeat.
Doppler Ultrasound detects movement not electrical signals Bud.
It's just so difficult to hold actual discussions. To justify abortion one has to dehumanize the unborn child. Some of the most ardent supporters are people who have been victimized by the industry and it is an industry. To look at the unborn as human straight in the eye creates a crisis point for the woman or man.
No; they do not.
This is the Straw Man you and your ilk make up to pass vague laws that impact people with real health issues during pregnancy who then cannot obtain basic Standard of Care.
You are making the broad argument.
I'm pointing out that those broad arguments and generic policies have negative impacts on people not wanting "elective abortions".
No; there are specific examples, already covered in the news.
One woman in TX had to have a hysterectomy performed, because no one at the hospital could perform an emergency D&E on her - because they had to "wait until her life was threatened". Then, they had to surgically remove her uterus to save her life.
That is an outcome permanently preventing someone who wanted to be pregnant from ever becoming pregnant, again. And entirely preventable.
Google that if you want the details.
Note what I said. It's not the majority. Its what the lobbying interests want. My ilk? Our medical system is a wreck heading over the cliff. I completely agree. The republicans had a chance to fix things and didn't so we got what we got which is even more corruption. Right now I got to find my ilks...! You seen em? I did see Elks in Glacier.
So?
They provide lots of other services, too.
If YOU don't want an abortion, don't get one.
Stop judging other people for their life choices.
No; it is not.
They want legal abortions thru 2 trimesters, and legal abortions when medically necessary, later. Which DOES occur.
It converts the muscle contraction motion into sound.
Because there is no sound.
Because there is no "heartbeat".
No; not at 6 weeks. There is no heart. There is only a group of cells that pulse.
Which an ultrasound sensor "sees" and a computer programmer turns that motion into sound.
There is no sound.
Soumd is not the definition of heartbeat joe. Thats where you are wrong.
But Ill play along for fun. So the heartbeat is the sound of the valves closing? In an adult?
Those are primarily for non-viable fetuses and severe pregnancy complications.
Yes; it is.
And the fetal heart does not pump the blood until birth. Prior to then, it is provided by the placenta and host heart.
I didn't either. Amazing how reading can expand your knowledge!
"In fact, the sound pregnant people hear during ultrasounds at six weeks is entirely manufactured by the ultrasound machine, Verma said. “It’s an electrical pulse that’s translated into the sound we’re hearing from the ultrasound machine.” "
‘Heartbeat bills’: Is there a fetal heartbeat at six weeks of pregnancy?
The term "fetal heartbeat" is medically inaccurate and misleading, experts say.
www.nbcnews.com
I didn't either. Amazing how reading can expand your knowledge!
"In fact, the sound pregnant people hear during ultrasounds at six weeks is entirely manufactured by the ultrasound machine, Verma said. “It’s an electrical pulse that’s translated into the sound we’re hearing from the ultrasound machine.” "
‘Heartbeat bills’: Is there a fetal heartbeat at six weeks of pregnancy?
The term "fetal heartbeat" is medically inaccurate and misleading, experts say.
Weird, Gus.
It's literally JUST LIKE I TOLD YOU, IDIOT.
OK, like pulling excess seedlings out of a garden...
Did you quote yourself <with no clear point in quoting yourself> ? Or forgot to change handles?
No, but let's say that was a defined exception to any abortion ban; how likely do you think it would be to see a spike in ectopic pregnancies?
Which statement most accurately reflects your view?
A - I would support zero restrictions up and to including birth, even post birth over a well defined abortion law which limits abortions to rape/incest victims, miscarriages, & ectopic pregnancy.
B - I don't have a uterus, so I'm not qualified to have an opinion (Cop out)
C - If a woman wants to terminate, just give her the covid vaccine
D - I have reasonable compromises in mind which may include an elective-abortion ban after 16 weeks (I chose that because it's 4 months and a nice round number) but would still protect the life of the mother for any medically necessary reason as determined by a state certified doctor.
That's simply wrong. Are you lying or brainwashed? I can't think of another explanation for making that claim.
Can you articulate a different explanation of your nonsense statement, or is deflection all you've got.?
In case you've forgotten, you said:
"the part of the population that wants abortion wants it for the whole 9 months."
Which simply isn't true.
