Way to prove my point that this is a political discussion and not a scientific oneScience, by it's very nature, is always incomplete...
Way to prove my point that this is a political discussion and not a scientific oneScience, by it's very nature, is always incomplete...
Embarrassment is a foreign concept to kids these days. They’ve been told since birth that everything they do is perfect.Whenever I hear these stories, I always wonder how the transgender athlete feels about it. Like are they embarrassed? I would be. Or are they thinking, why should I feel bad? I'm a girl too.
Post all the studies that demonstrates clear advantage then. You're the making this assertion.Possibly the dumbest post ever. And that's saying something.
I'm talking about posting that link btw.
So you want events where trans athletes essentially have to compete against themselves? Because virtually no competition has more than one trans athletes competing at the same time
Well that's great because I heard Lebron James, Jon Jones, and Shohei Ohtani are switching genders. I'll let the female athletes in their respective sports know that Huey Grey on HROT said they have no advantage.Let's get honest. The opposition to trans athletes is political not scientific. If you want to claim that trans athletes should be banned because of political or cultural reasons, have at it. But what you cannot claim is that it's because of scientific reasons. Because science can find no clear advantage.
New report finds that trans women athletes have no unfair advantage in elite sports — Mount Holyoke News
By Emily Tarinelli ’25 Sports Editor For the first time ever, a report titled “Transgender Women Athletes and Elite Sport: A Scientific Review” has shown that no existing scientific literature has proven trans women to have inherent competitive advantages over cisgender women in high-performancewww.mountholyokenews.com
So now that all of you have pontificated about this I'm assuming you're ready to allow puberty blockers, surgery, and money toward research so we can remove the competitive advantage for trans patients.
Seems to me you want to be on both sides of the fence. You don't want them in sports, but you seem to not want them to transition either. Looks like you're talking out of both sides of his mouth.
I'm a leftist and I don't really have any interest in them competing but you guys are so happy to get in the middle of their healthcare. I think the sports thing is a way to stick a thumb in your eye over it.
Explain to me how this works? The overwhelming odds are that there will be only one trans athletes at any given competition. Do they run a race all by themselves? What about competitions like basketball, volleyball, or wrestling? Are they completely barred from competing?I'm just saying all trans aren't equal. Putting them all together still isn't fair.
A born boy that's now a girl will be faster than a born girl that's now a boy.
Post the studies. If it's clear that they have an advantage it should be easy for you.Well that's great because I heard Lebron James, Jon Jones, and Shohei Ohtani are switching genders. I'll let the female athletes in their respective sports know that Huey Grey on HROT said they have no advantage.
Do you truly believe this stupid stance you're taking or is it a stance you are taking since you are a part of the LGBTQIA$?2+#% community??Post the studies. If it's clear that they have an advantage it should be easy for you.
Well that's great because I heard Lebron James, Jon Jones, and Shohei Ohtani are switching genders. I'll let the female athletes in their respective sports know that Huey Grey on HROT said they have no advantage.
Post the studies. If it's clear that they have an advantage it should be easy for you.
Still waiting on your studies. Where are they? Or have we shifted to the personal insults portion of the thread?Do you truly believe this stupid stance you're taking or is it a stance you are taking since you are a part of the LGBTQIA$?2+#% community??
Lol. Thank you for conceding that you're basing your arguments on feelings and not facts.There's no study because everyone with half of a brain isn't going to waste time and money on something so phucking obvious.
See. OIT gets it. Even he admits this is a political issue and not a biological one.this needs to keep on happening until november so trump can mention it in his campaign and so trump may win
Explain to me how this works? The overwhelming odds are that there will be only one trans athletes at any given competition. Do they run a race all by themselves? What about competitions like basketball, volleyball, or wrestling? Are they completely barred from competing?
I don't need a study. Serena Williams the greatest woman tennis player admitted herself that she cannot compete against men. She once played against I believe an amateur male and she lost 6-1, 6-0.Still waiting on your studies. Where are they? Or have we shifted to the personal insults portion of the thread?
Way to prove my point that this is a political discussion and not a scientific one
Lol. Thank you for conceding that you're basing your arguments on feelings and not facts.
It wouldn't be fair. It wouldn't be feasible. The mechanics of a trans only category aren't workable even if you wanted to create such a category.You are reading into my post too much.
I'm not saying we NEED four freaking categories.
I was just simply saying that even if trans athletes were given their own category, it still wouldn't be 100% fair.
THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING. Nothing more nothing less.
Another link with other studies. They all say the same. No clear advantage. You can argue with me but when you argue with science you start to look silly.You can't be this stupid. Can you?
Explain how a born male athlete is AVERAGE at best when competing against their born sex.
Then goes to DOMINATING against the opposite born sex.
Btw, there are definitely studies out there that show how males perform better than females. Google it.
Do you even watch sports?
Watch an NBA game and then switch to the WNBA. Report back.
Compare track times. Compare swimming times.
No advantage? LMFAO
Cool. Another poster who agrees that this is a social issue and not biological one! We're making progress!So stop attempting to use current science as a way to resolve what is clearly a social, not political, issue...
I don't need a study. Serena Williams the greatest woman tennis player admitted herself that she cannot compete against men. She once played against I believe an amateur male and she lost 6-1, 6-0.
It's too obvious for a study.
No, if you CHOOSE to transition, sports might just have to be a sacrifice you're willing to make.Just make 3 categories, boys, girls and transgender. Make it fair for everyone.
Never said it wouldn't.It wouldn't be fair. It wouldn't be feasible. The mechanics of a trans only category aren't workable even if you wanted to create such a category.
Explain to me how this works? The overwhelming odds are that there will be only one trans athletes at any given competition. Do they run a race all by themselves? What about competitions like basketball, volleyball, or wrestling? Are they completely barred from competing?
What if a boy wrestler wants to transition so he can beat up on female wrestlers?
But I thought there was zero advantage based on gender. Why wouldn't a trans category be ok?It wouldn't be fair. It wouldn't be feasible. The mechanics of a trans only category aren't workable even if you wanted to create such a category.
Another link with other studies. They all say the same. No clear advantage. You can argue with me but when you argue with science you start to look silly.
Do transgender athletes have a competitive advantage over cisgender athletes?
Among the many questions surrounding this topic, one has risen to the top - do transgender girls actually have an advantage over cisgender girls in athletics?www.cbs8.com
Or better yet. What if a trans boy is forced to compete against girls because a state like Texas wrote a law forcing athletes to compete as their born sex?This a tough issue. I can see both sides of the argument. What if a boy wrestler wants to transition so he can beat up on female wrestlers?
I don't know I'm pro supporting folks, but this seems to be a bit far.
The state of Texas sure as hell has a major problem with this.Go for it.
I have no problem with a born female competing against born males.
You mean a girl has to play girl sports? Say it isn't so!Or better yet. What if a trans boy is forced to compete against girls because a state like Texas wrote a law forcing athletes to compete as their born sex?
Or better yet. What if a trans boy is forced to compete against girls because a state like Texas wrote a law forcing athletes to compete as their born sex?
Right? They're so worried about shit that doesn't matter, like healthcare and the economy. Trans women competing in high school races is right up there with those issues!!Dems are being stupid by pretending this isn't an issue. Maybe not the biggest issue on people's minds but it is an issue.
It’s Huey against the world again. How soon until we’re all labeled fascist MAGATs?
No offense but you weren't even aware that right wing Texas undercuts some of your arguments in this thread. It's ok to admit that you're just making stuff up here.I don't even know how to respond to someone as clueless as you regarding this topic.
You are probably an intelligent person, but NOT on this topic.
No offense, but take off your gay blinders.
The state of Texas sure as hell has a major problem with this.